4to80.. wrong. Diehl was given his job back as soon as he got healthy despite Locklear playing far better in his absense. Locklear's knee injury happened in Washington when he was filling in for Diehl who had gotten banged up again.
DD is not getting his starting RT spot back when Baas returns Â
but they have been proven wrong before. Cruz was in TCs doghouse after dropping one pass in game 1 back in 2011. They brought Stokely and played him over Cruz. That, to me, is an obvious huge blunder in hindsight. I'm ok with starting DD at LT or LG, but if he struggles, let's see what Pugh, Mosely or Brewer bring to the table during a real game. This is where I think TC may go wrong - he'll stick with DD too long. If the other guys prove they're worse, go back to DD. I don't see why that's so hard to do? It's not like your messing with a QBs mentality. I would think a vet like DD could handle it.
That Diehl (with a casted hand) is the staffs best LG at this point. Just make the guy a reserve and be done with it. There are better guards on this team than Diehl.
LG than RT and the injury to Baas allows them to do it without much fuss.
Should he be starting at all? No, but he's going to, somewhere on the line, and, for now, this is the best solution to the Diehl issue "we're" going to get.
any significant commentary on Eli underthrowing guys this training camp.
I'm sure he misses occasionally and it's been noted, because, you know, that happens, especially when timing is still being so heavily worked on, but usually, the reports generally have had him mostly "on."
Do you think the ball is coming out a little late Â
it's better to underthrow than overthrow. An underthrown ball often ends up in a pass interference penalty if the DB doesn't turn around and play the ball and contact is made. Unfortunately, a good DB will also have an opportunity to pick off an underthrown ball. An overthrown ball could never end in a positive.
like all NFL coaches, will be playing the line-up he believes gives him the best chance of winning. Any opinion to the contrary, such as he is loyal to certain players, should not be taken too seriously.
I'm with Blogger on this
SwirlingEddie : 12:17 pm
I infer from Coughlin's decisions that he would much rather risk physical errors than mental ones. It may be because the former is more predictable and thus more manageable. Notice how often the RB was helping Diehl on Sunday. It's not about loyalty or any personal relationships.
What confuses me though is why the Giants apparently have much more difficulty than other teams assimilating new players into their scheme. It may just be a confirmation bias on my part, but it always jumps out at me when another team is starting a rookie or slides a young player into a role due to injury without an obvious hiccup.
Let's agree to disagree about that. As much as I love Tom Coughlin, for better or worse there's really no question that he can sometimes be loyal to a fault.
My bad. Just getting around to reading this thread and I see you mentioned the Diehl move awhile before I posted my link about it. Didn't mean to step on your toes there sir.
DD was a warrior for the Giants for a while... maybe moving him to LG Â
Highly doubt that's the case being that the only reason he's being moved at all is due to an injury we faced at Center and the need to reshuffle. Do you really believe he would have been benched if Baas didn't get hurt?
might be due to the cast he's got on his hand. If he can't grab onto rushing D-Linemen, that's a huge problem for a Tackle. Also a problem for a Guard, but perhaps less of one.
A bit inconsistent compared to other throws. He tends to put a little too much air under the ball. He's money with all the back shoulder throws, but when he has to really uncork one, you never know what your going together.
I agree, these guys act like they know better then the coaches and its nauseating.
Arc we as fans including yourself justify your opinions on physical talent alone where as that is all you know. There are obviously certain personal teammate qualities that factors into the coaching staff keeping Diehl in the starting lineup
An for everyone else, this topic is not worth 3 pages of threads. my god
The notion that Coughlin would risk the health of his franchise quarterback, any chance of winning another championship, and along with it, a spot in the HoF because of misguided loyalty to David Diehl is just ludicrous.
What's the body of work and detailed observation of same that has so many convinced that Mosley or Brewer or anyone else on the roster is a better option?
Could it be that Pugh was being worked at left tackle to develop an option in case Beatty gets injured that would preclude having to move Diehl over?
Some of the armchair coaches and GMs around here are way over the top.
Bobby Epps : 2:13 pm
be a good idea.
That's two rookies in the starting lineup and that makes me uncomfortable about protecting Eli.
BUT, never having played a down in a regular season game, IMO makes him a rookie.
Then, we gave the ball immediately back to them after a botched onside kick that we were oblivous too.
We make one, or both those plays, the game is ours.
And, even with O'Hara out of the game, who says we still run the ball with the Eagles selling out on defense?
Working with 1st team OL in unit drill: LT Beatty, LG Diehl, C Boothe, RG Snee, RT Pugh
Antrel flying around in agility drill. Shows no visible limitation a week after spraining his ankle.
"I feel like all his deep plays this season have been underthrown"
Mark from Jersey : 4:32 pm
They have been...and this was an issue last year.
Should he be starting at all? No, but he's going to, somewhere on the line, and, for now, this is the best solution to the Diehl issue "we're" going to get.
That being said, Eli underthrows more than overthrows on deep balls of late.
I'm sure he misses occasionally and it's been noted, because, you know, that happens, especially when timing is still being so heavily worked on, but usually, the reports generally have had him mostly "on."
SwirlingEddie : 12:17 pm
I infer from Coughlin's decisions that he would much rather risk physical errors than mental ones. It may be because the former is more predictable and thus more manageable. Notice how often the RB was helping Diehl on Sunday. It's not about loyalty or any personal relationships.
What confuses me though is why the Giants apparently have much more difficulty than other teams assimilating new players into their scheme. It may just be a confirmation bias on my part, but it always jumps out at me when another team is starting a rookie or slides a young player into a role due to injury without an obvious hiccup.
Tracy being carted off now.
few other notes I jotted down
-Really like Michael Cox, guy moves so well and I think barring injury will lock up the 3rd RB spot
-Tuck looked good moving..didn't notice anything about him being unhealthy
-Cooper Taylor was back today..looks quite tall for a secondary member..big guy
-Adrien Robinson is about twice the size as Myers when looking at them standing next to eachother..he's a beast
- looked like a really shaky practice for Ryan Nassib...had some bad throws in there
- I thought Painter threw some nice balls today..curious to see how he does against the Jets..I think it;s going to be tight between him and Carr
-Didn't notice Murphy or Barden today..either I missed them or they didn't practice
-Jernigan muffed two punts I'm pretty sure
Arc we as fans including yourself justify your opinions on physical talent alone where as that is all you know. There are obviously certain personal teammate qualities that factors into the coaching staff keeping Diehl in the starting lineup
An for everyone else, this topic is not worth 3 pages of threads. my god
What's the body of work and detailed observation of same that has so many convinced that Mosley or Brewer or anyone else on the roster is a better option?
Could it be that Pugh was being worked at left tackle to develop an option in case Beatty gets injured that would preclude having to move Diehl over?
Some of the armchair coaches and GMs around here are way over the top.