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Was anyone else upset by the last play of the game

Blue21 : 8/30/2013 1:28 pm

the Patriots had on offense when they went for the TD? It's kind of like an unwritten rule you take a knee there isn't it. I've always admired BB because he came from the Giants coaching tree but that ticked me off especially where he and TC are supposedly good friends. Of course BB has been known to run up scores. Maybe that's why BB and dipshit from Tampa Bay get along so good.Notice TC did the right thing with 4 seconds. He conceded the game to not risk anyone getting hurt in a desperate attempt to force overtime.

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Jerry K : 8/30/2013 1:52 pm : link

On the scale of things to get upset about it's barely a blip. It gave our DB a chance to make a play. He came up short.

Or maybe BB wants to keep Tebow as a wild card player, especially

CT Charlie : 8/30/2013 1:53 pm : link

in the red zone, and it shows that Tebow isn't just a one-trick pony. Probably, though, BB thought it would be "fun" if it worked.

Eric

Mike from Ohio : 8/30/2013 1:53 pm : link

BB is not above running the score up, but the way he was smiling after that play did not seem like the usual, bitter "f-you" face he usually has when he does that stuff. My interpretation was he felt like he did something nice for a decent guy who was playing his last game and knew it.

All those who see this as an example of BB being butt-hurt over

vibe4giants : 8/30/2013 1:53 pm : link

whatever, sound more than a little butt-hurt themselves. Of the two circumstances, I'll wager a great chance that Belichick had a stronger rationale for that play than the one behind this thread.

arcarsenal : 8/30/2013 1:54 pm : link

Eric.. maybe he wanted to see Sims run a fade or something. Who knows. Why does it matter? Coughlin played for OT against the Jets which a lot of teams may not have done in order to extend a meaningless game.

Getting worked up about a team throwing the football at the end of a preseason game and scoring just isn't something I'm interested in.

Maybe Terrence Frederick should have just timed his jump better and knocked the ball down.

If it was a game that counted it would be something to get upset

wgenesis123 : 8/30/2013 2:00 pm : link

about. Since its preseason and coaches routinely depart from the norm on decisions its not a big deal. There was talk in the media that this could be Tebow's last game in the NFL if he gets cut. Do you think he wanted to take a knee?

No. Not Upset at all.

nicky43 : 8/30/2013 2:00 pm : link

Pre-season practice time is so limited I don't blame the Patriots for running another practice play. Plus it gave us another practice play on defense. BB and TC are good friends and when they met after the game there was no signs of animosity. If the Patriots did that in a regular game it would be a different story.

Besides, maybe BB felt he'd give Tebow one more last play in the NFL.

Really you guys are upset over that?

Larry in Pencilvania : 8/30/2013 2:03 pm : link

It's not like it's week 4 of the regular season.

yawn...next

Another reason Belichick will always be referred to as

Section331 : 8/30/2013 2:03 pm : link

Little Bill.

Eric...

ligmen : 8/30/2013 2:04 pm : link

the 2 minute drill at half scenario to me doesn't apply. The last play of the game most likely included many players for the Pats, Tebow included who are really on the bubble. Let it rip and get as much production out of them as you can, while you can to help make your decision.

The end of 2nd half guys most of those guys are probably not on as much of a hot seat.

Again... see Tom Coughlin doing something similar... let me put my kicker in a big game situation... kick us into overtime of the 3rd preseason game.

As far as the kneeling at the end of the first half

nicky43 : 8/30/2013 2:05 pm : link

That was just good game management as the game was still on then. The game was clearly over when they added the play at the end. Just doing it for practice or giving the guys their last shot on the field.

The games don't matter and studying your players is more important than a win but every coach would still like to walk away with a win if they can.

Now they're even

mrvax : 8/30/2013 2:12 pm : link

Little Bill has evened the score now against the hated Tom Coughlin, whose team defeated his Patriots in 2 Superbowls.

Doesn't bother me.

Motley Blue : 8/30/2013 2:15 pm : link

It was a chance for them to practice a play in the redzone.

Lord knows the Giants could have used as many as those opportunities as possible this preseason.

No upset in the least

JonC : 8/30/2013 2:17 pm : link

But, it is an action that lacks class, while I wish we could expect better from BB.

Jon, why does it lack class?

vibe4giants : 8/30/2013 2:24 pm : link

Several posters have already expressed that it may have, among other things, a classy way to let Tebow go out. Or maybe it was exactly what it seemed, one more practice play. The idea that it lacks 'class' comes across as biased on a couple of levels. You're usually a very rational guy.

Where's Eric's write-up from last night that he mentioned?

Optimus-NY : 8/30/2013 2:26 pm : link

I tried looking, but I can't find it.

It's the article right at the top of the list

vibe4giants : 8/30/2013 2:28 pm : link

Yes.

old man : 8/30/2013 2:30 pm : link

And we'll beat the PATS in the SB again just to let them know we don't get mad, we get even.

As long as it didn't lead to OT

Headhunter : 8/30/2013 2:32 pm : link

I couldn't care less

It certainly altered the point spread

BigBlueinChicago : 8/30/2013 2:40 pm : link

Pats were -1 going into the game.

It would've been a push had they simple taken a knee. If you are a degenerate and took them last night, that last play won you a few bucks.

thanks vibe

Optimus-NY : 8/30/2013 2:42 pm : link

saw it. the new configuration still confuses me.

I agree with nicky43

WideRight : 8/30/2013 2:43 pm : link

Its doesn't mean anything, but little Bill is still a myopic twerp.

Vibe..I'm butt hurt? Hahaha! Naw..didn't lose a second sleep

Blue21 : 8/30/2013 3:04 pm : link

either but it rubbed me wrong . Especially since BB has been accused not by me but by the Boston press of his running up the scores etc. Just didn't expect to see it. He's taken flak before for classless stuff like drop kicking an extra point etc when he had a sizeable lead..

You were still so 'upset' (your word) that 12 hours later

vibe4giants : 8/30/2013 3:08 pm : link

you thought it deserved it's own thread.

That happened.

More teams should do it during the pre-season..

Big Blue '56 : 8/30/2013 3:14 pm : link

Wasn't mad in the least, because the game didn't matter one iota..

Things finally begin to matter in 9 days

nicky43

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2013 3:14 pm : link

sorry, but you are contradicting yourself. Good game management in either situation says take a knee. Only way the Patriots can lose at the end of the game is running a play.

So you either use it for practice or you don't.

Mike is likely the most correct...he wanted a feel good moment for Tebow.

But there is no way Coughlin takes a knee there. There have been other preseason games where Coughlin does that.

The Jets game? The game wasn't decided.

I think it was kind of silly

Greg from LI : 8/30/2013 3:18 pm : link

But I don't see how you can really get worked up over an exhibition game.

I have a bigger problem with..

EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 8/30/2013 3:18 pm : link

the way our team performed.

Wow ..Vibe..if this thread bothers you so much

Blue21 : 8/30/2013 3:29 pm : link

well why post? I'm not attacking anyone who differs. Why make it so personal? Just shared a a feeling that rubbed me wrong. You disagree? Great.

I thought

snumber6 : 8/30/2013 3:30 pm : link

wtf was he doing ... but with a whimsical smile and no animosity ...
That smile would have become laughter though if we returned the KO and made a two point conversion ...

I was sort of perplexed

Daniel in MI : 8/30/2013 3:33 pm : link

Because if he really cared about the score per se, it was a "dangerous" thing to do. The only way we win there is if we INT for 6 the other way. I assume it was for Tebow and eval of something in particular.

I'm more irked our D sucks so much we gave up 2 TDs to Tebow.

You still sound really emotional.

vibe4giants : 8/30/2013 3:36 pm : link

It should be interesting to see how you react to plays of actual significance in games that, you know, matter.

Vibe..emotional .? Read your 1:53

Blue21 : 8/30/2013 3:39 pm : link

I actually chuckled at butt hurt. Next time I'll ask you to proof read for me. Maybe "upset" was too strong a word but then again maybe "butt hurt" was too. Many on here agree with me many don't. Let it go. It's a football post about our Giants.

arcarsenal : 8/30/2013 3:40 pm : link

Daniel, his TD's came against McBride and Terrence Frederick. Those aren't defensive starters. Who cares?

You see 'many' agreeing with you?

vibe4giants : 8/30/2013 3:42 pm : link

Heh. Okay. Moving on, as I don't want to upset you further.

"He says with a snide remark"

Blue21 : 8/30/2013 3:45 pm : link

I don't get the taking

Mike L. : 8/30/2013 4:40 pm : link

a knee in glorified practice sessions. You should always be running plays - the point of these games isn't to win or lose, it's to get reps and evaluate players. So NE contradicted themselves, what they did at the end of the half was dumb.

Uhh...

BigBlueBuff : 8/30/2013 4:45 pm : link

Quote:

and
Eric from BBI : 1:34 pm
don't give me this "Patriots were practicing plays" crap. Why didn't they practice plays at the end of the first half when they knelt on the ball with one minute left.

Different players in the game and a different mindset for the evaluation process?

It's up to the Giants to stop them...

The Natural : 8/30/2013 5:37 pm : link

May be a lesson learned not to let up because of "unwritten rules"...Finish the game!!!

LoL Coughlin just LAST WEEK

LawrenceTaylor56 : 8/30/2013 5:59 pm : link

forced an overtime, and iced an kicker! The irony.

Trying to win a game by going to overtime is the same as running up

fredgbrown : 8/30/2013 6:15 pm : link

the score...Good to know..Something tells me if Tynes was still on the team he doesn't kick that field goal...

I was upset that a

YANKEE28 : 8/30/2013 6:26 pm : link

reciever from Tennessee Martin (Jerry Reese is an alum) who looked great and finished with 3 catches 72 yards and 2 TDs was signed by the Patriots as a UDFA, and not the Giants. It will be interested to see if Quentin Sims makes the Patriots final roster.

Icing the kicker

LawrenceTaylor56 : 8/30/2013 7:16 pm : link

In a meaningless game is pretty bush league. So is going for an OT. Josh Brown isn't some rookie who the coaches had to see if he could kick in pressure situations. (Is it even a pressure situation in preseason?) There's plenty of tape on him.

That's good to know as well.

I didn't mind

Optimus-NY : 8/30/2013 8:25 pm : link

One last moment for Tebow. There's not a lot of time to practice in training camp anymore as compared to before, so preseason games provide more of a chance to do things. No big deal in my mind. Besides: a player and a coach should be ready for anything at all times from the opponent until the clock reads double zero at the end. What they do is their business, and they're entitled to it. I firmly believe that, but I don't think it was bush league.

Eh, not at all worked up about this

David in LA : 8/30/2013 8:30 pm : link

it's preseason, and the guys in at the end are the guys who are playing for jobs.

they were in scoring position and wanted to execute a play

mattlawson : 8/30/2013 8:45 pm : link

anything more than that is your imagination getting the best of you. preseason games all of a sudden mean something?

Nope.

section125 : 8/30/2013 9:25 pm : link

But was pissed that they had 6 chances to get 3 pts to win, a couple starting in Pats territory and could not do it.

You're talking about a HC who doesnt let his starters play in 4th game

Occam'sRazor : 8/30/2013 9:51 pm : link

Due to injury concerns....

He's not going to risk a possible injury with that last snap unless there's a good reason for it. What did he want to see, who knows? But I'm pretty sure its not for some stupid reason like wanting to run up the score or whatever!!!

Besides who cares if he runs up the score in a pre season game?!! Thats going to make up for 2 SB loses to the Giants?!!!

Karma

ada34ada : 8/30/2013 10:35 pm : link

Will come back and bite the Patriots.

you don't need reps in pre-season

RasputinPrime : 8/30/2013 10:37 pm : link

you need to come out without injury.

It was typical and to be expected from the Pats. I would have just had my players walk off the field before the snap.

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