Would you swap Eli for Luck right now?

unless it was in response to somebody else.

WR's have been woefully underrated for the better part of the 2000's and beyond. The common theory was that Manning made his WR's look better than they were. Yet, Reggie Wayne had another good year under Luck. TY Hilton is no sloutch either.

I wouldn't say Indy has beter WR's than us, but it isn't like it is a slam dunk ours are tremendously better, especially when it comes to depth.

Love Eli and what he's accomplished...but man Andrew Luck is going to be really good for a really long time!

it's a fact, no? All this talk about how close Eli is to accomplishing another Super Bowl doesn't mean Luck is miles away. Early returns so far are great considering Luck shattered rookie passing marks with very little help outside of Wayne. I think we'll probably see some regression this year for the Colts, but I still would think about rolling the dice if that means keeping your window open for another decade.

but several posters here will be the first to point out that Eli makes his WR's that much better. It goes both ways.

I'm not sure what relevance a back up cast has to do with one's legacy.

Is Joe Montana thought of any less because he had Jerry Rice? Or Aikman because he had Irvin?

had over 100 receptions and Hilton had 7 TD's! Donnie Avery had 60 receptions.

The Giants leading receiver had 83 catches and nobody else broke 60.

Yet we have the better receivers for certain?

I'm not even going to mention that Nicks was at less than full health all season. All bullshit aside, would you honestly trade our skill position guys for theirs? I don't disagree that their guys may be underrated as well.

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Gotcha, so we can't quite say Luck makes his receivers look better David in LA : 1:53 pm but several posters here will be the first to point out that Eli makes his WR's that much better. It goes both ways.

A lot of people here think Cruz and Nicks are studs. How much moaning happened when we lost Manningham and the guy did bupkiss with SF? How many people think Randle is the next breakout star here?

I half think our WR's get overrated here moreso than the opposite.

When you think of all-time great WR's, how often does Harrison or Wayne come into the conversation? If you have people around you like I do, it doesn't happen all that often, and if they do come up, somebody talks about Peyton making them great. I don't buy that.

I'd trade our guys for theirs. But I'm also not the one saying taht the Colts have little talent at the position, which is exactly what you inferred earlier.

Since the days I first came to this board in 1999, every year we have the best WR's. Yet, until Cruz in 2011, no one put up any numbers to back that up. We have some good WR's, but consistantly we over rate our talent.

this? If he is indeed the next breakout WR, it is because Reuben is working his ass off to get on the same page as Eli. The credit doesn't seem to get dispersed enough around here (not saying you are doing that, just thought about a few posts I've seen over the past few years).

as an example of how we overrate our talent consistently on BBI. It goes beyond the WR's, but it is pertinent to this discussion when it is said that the view is Eli makes our guys better. I really don't see that said very often.

I mean this is off tangent, but you have UDFA's gushed about each year here as if each is going to end up being Cruz, and it isn't just reserved for the WR's. How many people took highlights of Herman pushing around the equivalent of a HS frosh team and extrapolated that into thinking he would be a Day 1 starter and a white Anthony Munoz?

"elevates" his WRs' production? All I'd say on that note is it's tough not to want to see Eli go the next 5 years with the trio of Nicks, Cruz, and Randle all intact... along with Robinson and Wilson playing up to their full physical potential.

Not that there's any guarantee it will shake out that way.

= now.

and Randal was a 2nd pick that was highly touted out of college. I think he's rated right where he should be.

I'd do it.

If the question were, 'Who would you start a franchise with?'.

I'd take Luck hands down.