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How We Can Beat The Broncos's Next Week

BigBlueDownTheShore : 9/6/2013 9:04 am
The same way we beat the Bills in the Superbowl, and Saints beat the Colts in the Superbowl. You have to succeed the run on defense and grind it out and eat-up the run on offense.

When you allow Peyton's offense to run the ball, it takes the ball out of Peyton's hands and grinds the clock out on the other end as well and does not allow him to get into a groove on offense. I think we could win in a shoot out as well, but its not the best strategy when you go up against a hot handed Peyton Manning.

Slim chance that Coughlin/Fewell will even think this way, but honestly its the best way to throw Peyton off his game. Belichick is a genius by the way for employing this type of game-plan back against the Bills in the Super-Bowl.
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Tough to think about the Broncos...  
Britt in VA : 9/6/2013 9:05 am : link
when I'm still worried about this week.
a good way of beating them  
CMicks3110 : 9/6/2013 9:05 am : link
would be to score more points than they do, not sure it will work, but it seems like a sound strategy
How can anyone think about the Bronco's, when we open  
BLUATHRT : 9/6/2013 9:06 am : link
with a division rival on Sunday night?
We're a pass-reliant offense, this isn't 1990 anymore  
Kyle : 9/6/2013 9:07 am : link
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the way to beat broncos  
giantfanboy : 9/6/2013 9:09 am : link
get to Peyton .. anyway possible to disrupt his timing . I was shocked how Peyton went thru the game untouched
Giants d backs and linebackers beat the crap  
ktinsc : 9/6/2013 9:10 am : link
out of the Bills receivers and created alligator arms. No way in hell that happens in today's NFL.
Kidnap Peyton Manning  
PEEJ : 9/6/2013 9:11 am : link
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Maybe the Ravens defense is really that bad.  
Curtis in VA : 9/6/2013 9:12 am : link
I don't think Peyton will be throwing 7 Td's against us.
It would a huge upset in my opinion if  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/6/2013 9:12 am : link
the broncos didn't win the sb. They are stacked.

Plus they are getting miller and bailey back at some point.

We seriously need a big game from the DL and Wilson to beat these guys. Manage the clock and rush the qb.
That being said.  
Britt in VA : 9/6/2013 9:13 am : link
it's a little easier to think about the Broncos because we've actually seen them, while the Cowboys are still an unknown at this point.

So from what we saw last night, the Broncos are going to be damn hard to defend, both on offense and defense.

Peyton goes untouched because, like Eli, he is deceptively mobile inside the pocket. My opinion is that we need a strong push up the middle from our DT's to prevent him from stepping up in the pocket.
Curtis, last time we saw the Giants...  
Britt in VA : 9/6/2013 9:13 am : link
their defense was really bad as well.
Fewell tried what you're saying already against Peyton in  
Riggies : 9/6/2013 9:13 am : link
Indy -- this whole challenge-them-to-run-instead-of-pass thing.

It didn't work out, to say the least.
We gotta beat the Cowboys THIS week.  
Oldmanyaps : 9/6/2013 9:14 am : link
Nevermind the Broncos next week.
it's going to have to be in a shootout  
Greg from LI : 9/6/2013 9:14 am : link
There's no way our sorryass defense is going to slow Peyton Manning down.
Eli takes Peyton out for dinner  
snumber6 : 9/6/2013 9:15 am : link
the night before ... and gets him rip roaring drunk ...
unless Peyton has the Mantle gene ... no way can he play well with a hangover ...
Seems to me  
Alex_Webster : 9/6/2013 9:15 am : link
We tried that the last time we played Peyton against colts September 2010.What he did was run all over us in first half.They ran the ball 43 times for 160 and 20 for 26 passing for 250. We ran for 120 and passed for 13 for 24 for 137. The real key is to exploit the defense and sustain drives they had 70 plays to our 53. If you give Peyton 17 additional plays were dead. score was 14 to 38. G-men will struggle to win games below 24 pts against anybody.
Put the dime D on the field  
PEEJ : 9/6/2013 9:16 am : link
and dare them to run. It worked against Indy.

Oh…wait …..
Win tunover battle and TOP  
WideRight : 9/6/2013 9:17 am : link
and our chances are very good.
JPP needs to do damage....  
GMAN4LIFE : 9/6/2013 9:17 am : link
JPP needs to get to Peyton
I look forward to watching the Giants play the Cowboys  
vibe4giants : 9/6/2013 9:18 am : link
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We probably will not.  
TMS : 9/6/2013 9:18 am : link
Thats another reason why this week game against the Boys is so important. We have a lot of growing to do right now with all these new players starting.
Gonna Start  
David : 9/6/2013 9:20 am : link
thinking abt this on Monday. Til then, F THE COWBOYS!
Well, hoping both teams are 1 and 0...  
okiegiant : 9/6/2013 9:20 am : link
you let Eli(the cool Manning)win the game.

The Broncos are going to score points on everyone. You just have to hope your team can take advantage of any mistakes and limit their own.
I think we need to put the dude on the right at FS and  
Cam in MO : 9/6/2013 9:21 am : link
keep 'Trell up in the box all game.




It'll freak Peyton right the fuck out all game. 7ints!



I'll feel a hell of a lot better if we secure a win this week  
UberAlias : 9/6/2013 9:21 am : link
Denver is going to be very tough. They'll be rested and have a few extra days to prepare for us.

We are going to have to find ways to pressure Peyton and we are going to have to put a lot of points on the board. No settling for FGs, that's fir sure.
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arcarsenal : 9/6/2013 9:24 am : link
Win in Dallas. The division game means 1000x more than the AFC game. It'll be a lot easier to deal with the Broncos if we're 1-0 going into it.

I'm not convinced we're even guaranteed to lose that game the way I'm sure half the board is now.. but I wouldn't even worry about it now. Take care of the Cowboys first.
You have to hope...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/6/2013 9:24 am : link
there is a combination of Denver being on the road, where they are weaker, a letdown from a big emotional win against the Ravens, and a fresh Giants DL getting pressure on Peyton.
Its about ball control  
dep026 : 9/6/2013 9:26 am : link
having long drives and scoring TDs. We have had a lot of successs with in the past. If Peyton isnt on the field, he cant score.
I'm with FMIC.....  
BillKo : 9/6/2013 9:32 am : link
that was a huge game for the Broncos last night...they thought about it all offseason.

It's hopefully a classic letdown spot.

But, two things could negate that. Peyton's playing his brother, enough said. Secondly, the Broncos have more than the usual turn around time, so they can more easily get their game face back on for this. Had it been a Monday night game for the Broncos, it would have been better for us.

Personally, I'm glad they looked great last night....we should prepare accordingly.
'A huge upset if the Broncos don't win the SB?'  
Matt G : 9/6/2013 9:33 am : link
A very good team with a great QB... And they should steamroll the lowly AFCW again... But "a huge upset not to win the SB" is a bit of an overstatement as of September 6th... Every house in Vegas would gladly take the other side of that bet... I'm a fan of Peyton but let's not forget, the guy simply does not play his best foorball in Jan/Feb...
Every defense, or most anyway,  
Big Blue '56 : 9/6/2013 9:37 am : link
are sorry-ass defenses in this pass-frenzy era Greg..Did you see the two sorry-ass defenses of two of the SB favorites last night?

I wish people would finally get that the NFL, by and large, is not a defensive league anymore..
They're going to hang 40 on us  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/6/2013 9:39 am : link
and life will go on.
you can keep making that excuse  
Greg from LI : 9/6/2013 9:39 am : link
But even in this era, the Giants defense is the shortest midget. Even when ranked against their contemporaries, they're pathetic.
Denver 777  
SanFranGiantsFan : 9/6/2013 9:41 am : link
Giants 0. At half.

Play 4 quarters like the Ravens played in the first quarter.  
wgenesis123 : 9/6/2013 9:41 am : link
The Broncos got stronger as the game progressed and the defense seemed to play better with a lead. Perhaps that thin air in the opener was bad news for the Ravens. Giants are at home so let the fans be loud.
Denver's defense was pretty damn good last night  
Kyle : 9/6/2013 9:42 am : link
Without one of the top players in the NFL in Von Miller rushing the passer, they shut down the Ravens offense.

Flacco needed 62 attempts to get his ~350 yards. That's terrible.

I won't say they made Flacco look like shit, because I think Flacco is more than capable of making himself look like shit.
Add little people to the list....  
Cam in MO : 9/6/2013 9:43 am : link
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arcarsenal : 9/6/2013 9:44 am : link
The Giants defense is only the worst if you only care about yards and completely discount every other thing.. which is.. stupid (for lack of a better word).. but if you want to measure everything on yards and nothing else, I guess I can't stop ya.

56 is right. It's just not a defensive league anymore. Teams give up a lot of yards and a lot of plays. Some people will hate it.. but it's reality.
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arcarsenal : 9/6/2013 9:45 am : link
Denver's defense was able to turn it up as soon as they took a significant lead. If you can get them away from Rice and their short game, you make them one dimensional and then you can just tee off on Flacco. You know they're throwing on almost every down.
matt  
Joey from GlenCove : 9/6/2013 9:45 am : link
They are a great team with a top 3 qb of all time. Baring a lot of injures they are going to easily win 14 games in a shitty AFC

On both sides of the ball you can argue they may have the best squad. The case will more difficult to make on the D but still they do have a top 5 D.

Seattle
SF
Texans
Broncos
Bengals


I think this is a great topic...  
Dan in the Springs : 9/6/2013 9:53 am : link
in light of last night's game.

Clearly, the defense will need to do better than Baltimore did last night. However the key, imho, is to have long drives on offense that result in TD's. We need to limit their possessions.

If we can keep Peyton to 4 or less possessions per half, and we score TD's, we can win this game.

We will probably need to score around 24 points minimum to win though, so let's hope that our offense is clicking by then.

Arc  
dep026 : 9/6/2013 9:55 am : link
the only other stat you need to put in there is 3rd down conversion rate. Thats a pretty important one, and one the defense needs to improve upon.
Big Blue '56,  
Curtis in VA : 9/6/2013 9:57 am : link
its not so much about being a sorry defense, its about being one of the sorriest defenses among 31 other sorry defenses.
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arcarsenal : 9/6/2013 9:57 am : link
The Giants just really aren't a ball control offense.. so I don't know if I see that happening. We need to sustain drives but our offense tries to get down field and we're not really the type of team that grinds defenses on the ground and short range.
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arcarsenal : 9/6/2013 9:58 am : link
dep.. I 100% agree with that. The Giants were 1st in the entire league in 3rd down defense in 2010. They were much worse last year. That has to change.

In any event.. the 2012 Giants defense is over. We can talk about how bad they were until we're blue in the face. The 2013 Giants defense does not = the 2012 team. We haven't even played a game yet and we're talking about how awful our defense is. How do we know?
FBO measured year-to-year performance on 3rd Down... there's no  
Kyle : 9/6/2013 9:59 am : link
consistency year-to-year.
Because why should they get the benefit of the doubt?  
Greg from LI : 9/6/2013 10:03 am : link
Since Fewell's been hired the defense has mostly been in the bottom half of the league. The DE position is weaker than it's been in many years, and while the DT position should be improved much rests on the health of two aging players (Jenkins and Rogers) who have had a lot of trouble staying on the field.. The linebackers are arguably the worst group in football. The secondary is thin.
Joey  
Matt G : 9/6/2013 10:07 am : link
I'm not challenging the fact that DEN will win a lot of games, nor that Peyton is a top 3 all-time QB, nor that the AFC stinks... But it's huge stretch to suggest that they will "easily win 14 games" and it would somehow be an "upset if they don't win the SB"... Most people would take the other side of that bet all day long... How many teams have even won 14 regular season games in the last decade? Six? As great as Peyton Manning is, what's his playoff record? How many SBs has he won?

Probability is not in your favor...
On paper, the Giants would seem to have the offensive weapons  
UberAlias : 9/6/2013 10:08 am : link
to be capable of looking like that. That said, in reality, I have a very hard time seeing the Giants offense look that good against a Ravens defense. I realize Ravens lost some guys on D, but they also added Canty, who has looked very good for them, and Elvis D. to go along with guys like Nagta and Suggs. It's not like Peyton didn't miss from time to time, but guys were getting open all over the place and he kept hitting them. I'd love to see that in our offense, but remain skeptical. I'm just not expecting too many shows like that against talented defenses.
We have to  
Jerry in DC : 9/6/2013 10:09 am : link
1) Score a lot of points
2) Win high-leverage plays on defense -- 3rd downs, turnovers, red zone

That's what you have to do to beat a team with an elite offense. It's very difficult to shut them down.
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