The addition of one key defender, even an HOFer like Carson or a close to HOF stud in his prime like Banks, would likely be wasted in Fewell's schemes.
I almost want the D to suck this year again just so TC's hand will be forced re dumping PF.
that Leonard Marshall was the most underrated player from that NYG era. The guy did everything and he did it as a 3/4 end. He was a pass rushing force and he held his POA as well as any 3/4 end could have. He was as good a defensive lineman as any from that era and he gets NO consideration for the HOF. Multiple pro bowls. Postseason monster...Marshall was a very productive player, both statistically and at the POA and he did it as a 3/4 end. Can't be said enough how good he was.
Banks and Marshall don't sniff canton while Dan Hampton does? That bothers me. I know I know...NY players are overrated and LT made everyone around him better. Horse shit. You take Banks or Marshall off those teams and they are not winning two super bowls.
I'd take Carson on this team. lol...sorry for the rant.
and I don't want to miller the thread and turn it into a Fewell dump-fest.
BUT... I think the talent on our D, aside from the largely g-d awful LBs, is better than they've shown under Fewell. Like maybe they are at least average?
There's an ongoing theme of confusion among our D-secondary, and the buck has to stop with PF on that, IMO.
with these current WRs remember then you're also putting him behind this current OL. I don't think it would turn out well, not for Phil, not for the team.
... imo, the player who would have the biggest impact on this team this season would be Bavaro ... he'd help the running game, the passing game, and an incredible presence on the team (quiet toughness)
my order on who would help the 2013 team the most by position--no specials included. the first 5 would really help.
position: best player - comments
1 CB: Mark Haynes - total shutdown CB
2 MLB: Harry Carson - huge upgrade
3 TE: Mark Bavaro - two way upgrade
4 OL: Jumbo Eliot - RT - upgrade - move Pugh to G
5 OLB: Carl Banks - big upgrade especially against the run
6 S: Terry Kinard - definite upgrade
7 DL: Lenard Marshall - little need unless JPP trouble
8 WR: Ernest Gray - little need
9 QB: Phil Simms - no need
for 3 or 4 years he was All-Pro with LT and sometimes Carson. was totally dominate. based on that extended play. was not trouble inside the locker room.
immediately changes the quality and mindset of the LB corps. Also one the greatest locker room and team leaders the Giants have ever had. Of all the valid contenders mentioned I think Carson would have the most dramatic effect on the team in general. TC and Carson would be a marriage made in heaven. Hell, Carson even had LT's utmost respect, and that's saying something.
Carson, Collins, or Haynes. Bavaro was my favorite Giant of all time, but he isn't as great a need with this offense, as the others are. Next up would be Jumbo, moving Beatty to RT.
Lets face it the OL is just seriously average at best until proven otherwise. You could make a care for Bart Oates just as much as a case for Bamks or Bavaro
Any one of those three literally would be a Godsend.
The addition of one key defender, even an HOFer like Carson or a close to HOF stud in his prime like Banks, would likely be wasted in Fewell's schemes.
I almost want the D to suck this year again just so TC's hand will be forced re dumping PF.
Banks and Marshall don't sniff canton while Dan Hampton does? That bothers me. I know I know...NY players are overrated and LT made everyone around him better. Horse shit. You take Banks or Marshall off those teams and they are not winning two super bowls.
I'd take Carson on this team. lol...sorry for the rant.
I know there's an almost in there, but I never want our D to suck.
No take backs...I want Leonard Marshall on this team.
BUT... I think the talent on our D, aside from the largely g-d awful LBs, is better than they've shown under Fewell. Like maybe they are at least average?
There's an ongoing theme of confusion among our D-secondary, and the buck has to stop with PF on that, IMO.
position: best player - comments
1 CB: Mark Haynes - total shutdown CB
2 MLB: Harry Carson - huge upgrade
3 TE: Mark Bavaro - two way upgrade
4 OL: Jumbo Eliot - RT - upgrade - move Pugh to G
5 OLB: Carl Banks - big upgrade especially against the run
6 S: Terry Kinard - definite upgrade
7 DL: Lenard Marshall - little need unless JPP trouble
8 WR: Ernest Gray - little need
9 QB: Phil Simms - no need
Any one of those three literally would be a Godsend.