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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/8/2013 10:29 am
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Meh...  
Homersimpson : 9/8/2013 4:24 pm : link
With running QB's, I hate the call on the sideline where you don't know if he's going out of bounds or not. He gave him a little push...it wasn't like he slugged him OOB...
Same Scotty  
eliisthemanning : 9/8/2013 4:25 pm : link
Fucking Bucs
That was as clear a late hit as possible  
SethFromAstoria : 9/8/2013 4:25 pm : link
And that guy should be sat next game for literally losing a game singlehandedly.
Buddys boy  
trueblueinpw : 9/8/2013 4:25 pm : link
Be nice to see Sexy Rexy throw a sucker punch at Schitano.
He was not out of bounds  
MookGiants : 9/8/2013 4:25 pm : link
the replay clearly showed the contact coming before his foot ever touched out of bounds. He was going out of bounds, but not out of bounds yet
yikes  
SHO'NUFF : 9/8/2013 4:26 pm : link
poor AP...great runner with a shitty QB...the curse of Barry Sanders.
shaky call for certain  
GMenLTS : 9/8/2013 4:27 pm : link
but such is life in today's NFL. If you're relying on the officials to help you out, you're not likely to be happy with the end result.
Schiano gets smacked  
Stan from LA : 9/8/2013 4:27 pm : link
And the Yanks beat the Sox on a wild pitch within seconds of each other.

My day is made!
Classic Jets  
BurberryManning : 9/8/2013 4:27 pm : link
It should be fun to read the irrational BBI Jets bashers tell us how poor of a coach Rex is this week
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Danny Kanell : 9/8/2013 4:27 pm : link
That was an absolutely clear late hit. I'm fucking stunned
He still had 1 foot in bounds  
micky : 9/8/2013 4:27 pm : link
very close
It's going to be called every time and the players  
MookGiants : 9/8/2013 4:28 pm : link
should know that, but by definition it was not a late hit. It can't be a late hit if he's still in bounds when you hit him. Don't know how that's debatable.

BM  
Kyle : 9/8/2013 4:29 pm : link
Hah

I'm actually happy they won. Their D and DL, in particular, is fun to watch. Offense blows but I'm envious of their Defense.
it's crazy  
Scotty9678 : 9/8/2013 4:29 pm : link
but if the Buc hugs him and holds him up, I would think no penalty, but the shove to the ground where he can clearly "act it up" a bit will always get a penalty there.

Stupid play  
jcn56 : 9/8/2013 4:29 pm : link
he was going out, no sense trying to hit him there when you know you're bound to get a flag with today's officiating.
It was a clear  
SethFromAstoria : 9/8/2013 4:30 pm : link
Late hit.... Not sure how you could possibly spin it the other way. The player gave himself up and was a half foot from the ground out of bounds.
But he wasn't out of bounds  
MookGiants : 9/8/2013 4:31 pm : link
so how is it a late hit if he's not out of bounds?

We've seen guys act like they're going out of bounds and not.

I don't have a problem with the call because they ALWAYS call it. So the players should know this.

But again, by definition, you have to actually be out of bounds for it to be a late hit. No part of his body touched out of bounds yet when he was hit
No it was a very close call  
dpinzow : 9/8/2013 4:32 pm : link
but refs will call that to protect QBs. Lavonte David made a more stupid play by even thinking about hitting him there, knowing that he's going to go out of bounds at the Tampa 45 with almost no time left
congrats to Jets, who were written off  
ColHowPepper : 9/8/2013 4:32 pm : link
nice to see an attacking defense at Met Life wreck some havoc
it would have defied physics for him to get back in bounds  
lalalalala : 9/8/2013 4:32 pm : link

it was stupid. and if he doesn't shove Smith they can't kick. would have been from 63
Looked out of bounds from here.  
vibe4giants : 9/8/2013 4:32 pm : link
And certainly close enough to expect the call.

In any case. rational Giants fans are pleased with the result.
Technically  
JOrthman : 9/8/2013 4:33 pm : link
His foot didn't touch out of bounds yet, but clearly his body was out and there was no need for the shove.
Why would he have tried to stay in bounds  
Headhunter : 9/8/2013 4:38 pm : link
even if he was the worlds greatest contortionist? They had no time outs. Where was he going to run to ? The only realistic shot the Jets had was given to them. If one of our guys did that, he would be held in the same regard as Ray Handley
Since there's no way that foot was landing anywhere but out of bounds  
vibe4giants : 9/8/2013 4:40 pm : link
and the official made their judgement in real time, I'll give them the benefit of that fraction of a second and say it was the right call.
It was close enough, and the hit wasn't hard enough  
jeff57 : 9/8/2013 4:55 pm : link
for the ref not to have called it. But it was a QB and Jets were the home team.
And the Bucs look like the worst coached team in the league  
jeff57 : 9/8/2013 4:59 pm : link
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stockton : 9/8/2013 5:01 pm : link
Quote:
Why would he have tried to stay in bounds
Headhunter : 4:38 pm
even if he was the worlds greatest contortionist? They had no time outs. Where was he going to run to ? The only realistic shot the Jets had was given to them. If one of our guys did that, he would be held in the same regard as Ray Handley


This is not relevant. It is not the job of the officials to judge strategy.
the way folk hit the game winning fg  
CGiants07 : 9/8/2013 5:05 pm : link
the thing might of been good for 60+ anyway
Quite possibly the best TD dance of the day  
Geomon : 9/8/2013 5:06 pm : link
i don't think it was the late hit  
CGiants07 : 9/8/2013 5:07 pm : link
it was the extra shove after he was clearly out of bounds
Rex claims  
Giants2012 : 9/8/2013 5:08 pm : link
"This team is special".


It was a late hit  
Geomon : 9/8/2013 5:09 pm : link
Was a shove, not a hit  
jeff57 : 9/8/2013 5:12 pm : link
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I'm glad we're talking about the same  
Headhunter : 9/8/2013 5:28 pm : link
thing
if you think that is the right call at that time  
Essex : 9/8/2013 5:34 pm : link
you guys are insane. there is no way in a split second to pull up. his foot has not yet touched at out bounds. it was a ridiculous call exacerbated by the time of the game.
Uh-huh  
Headhunter : 9/8/2013 5:35 pm : link
tell me more?
That's a call they have made pretty consistently  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2013 5:37 pm : link
If a QB is heading toward the sideline you don't touch him. They call they every time.

Bucs  
stretch234 : 9/8/2013 5:42 pm : link
That call is made on a QB all the time. He is giving himself up. A complete and utter stupid play that cost them a game.

You can bash Rex for a lot of shit, but his teams can play D
No problems with that call...  
Blue Meanie : 9/8/2013 5:45 pm : link
defender did not have to hit Geno as the sideline was his friend...
If Eli got hit going out of bounds  
Blue Meanie : 9/8/2013 5:47 pm : link
like that - I'd want the call...
Blue Meanie  
Essex : 9/8/2013 5:52 pm : link
if I was a Jet fan, I would want that call. The standard is not what a fan wants, but if you are going to make a call like that, you better be right. And, Smith was not out of bounds when he began contact, his foot was still in the air. He jut finished the shove. Ridiculous call.
We'll agree...  
Blue Meanie : 9/8/2013 5:55 pm : link
to disagree...
Essex you're wrong get over it  
gtt350 : 9/8/2013 6:00 pm : link
that's a penalty
It's not a ridiculous call.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2013 6:00 pm : link
It's what they usually call in that situation. You cannot touch quarterbacks on the way out of bounds. You cannot touch quarterbacks on the helmet.

Especially early-season when the Refs are over-emphasising the rules like they usually do.
he wasn't even technically out of bounds  
Essex : 9/8/2013 6:08 pm : link
and just because the call is made at other times, doesn't mean it is the right call. When you make a call that will take a team from definitely losing a game (absent a hail mary) to having a good chance to win it, you better be sure you have lived up to the letter of the rule. They did not, as i understand it, because he was not out of bounds yet when the contact ensued. And, of course, a shove cannot be called unnecessary roughness.
The burden is on the player not to give a ref a reason to throw a  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2013 6:13 pm : link
flag. Whether we disagree with how the rule is enforced, it's not a reviewable play, and they're not going to go back and admit fault.

If you know the league is out to protect quarterbacks, don't hit one heading out of bounds.
essex he wasn't in bounds either. look closely  
gtt350 : 9/8/2013 6:19 pm : link
when contact was made Smith was in the air, both feet, when he came down he was out of bounds either way it's a penalty
The Bucs werent t questioning the call  
Headhunter : 9/8/2013 6:30 pm : link
because it was a no brainer
But Giants fans are due to Jets Derangement Syndrome  
Kyle : 9/8/2013 6:47 pm : link
They're kinda irrelevant to us
Schiano - We fight until they tell us the game is over  
snumber6 : 9/8/2013 8:22 pm : link
Schiano - We hit until they tell us the play is over

Thanks for proving there is a dumber coaching philosophy than Ryan's ... or even the opposite style - Fassel's ...

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