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With running QB's, I hate the call on the sideline where you don't know if he's going out of bounds or not. He gave him a little push...it wasn't like he slugged him OOB...

Fucking Bucs

And that guy should be sat next game for literally losing a game singlehandedly.

Be nice to see Sexy Rexy throw a sucker punch at Schitano.

the replay clearly showed the contact coming before his foot ever touched out of bounds. He was going out of bounds, but not out of bounds yet

poor AP...great runner with a shitty QB...the curse of Barry Sanders.

but such is life in today's NFL. If you're relying on the officials to help you out, you're not likely to be happy with the end result.

And the Yanks beat the Sox on a wild pitch within seconds of each other.

My day is made!

It should be fun to read the irrational BBI Jets bashers tell us how poor of a coach Rex is this week

That was an absolutely clear late hit. I'm fucking stunned

very close

should know that, but by definition it was not a late hit. It can't be a late hit if he's still in bounds when you hit him. Don't know how that's debatable.

Hah

I'm actually happy they won. Their D and DL, in particular, is fun to watch. Offense blows but I'm envious of their Defense.

but if the Buc hugs him and holds him up, I would think no penalty, but the shove to the ground where he can clearly "act it up" a bit will always get a penalty there.

he was going out, no sense trying to hit him there when you know you're bound to get a flag with today's officiating.

Late hit.... Not sure how you could possibly spin it the other way. The player gave himself up and was a half foot from the ground out of bounds.

so how is it a late hit if he's not out of bounds?

We've seen guys act like they're going out of bounds and not.

I don't have a problem with the call because they ALWAYS call it. So the players should know this.

But again, by definition, you have to actually be out of bounds for it to be a late hit. No part of his body touched out of bounds yet when he was hit

but refs will call that to protect QBs. Lavonte David made a more stupid play by even thinking about hitting him there, knowing that he's going to go out of bounds at the Tampa 45 with almost no time left

nice to see an attacking defense at Met Life wreck some havoc

it was stupid. and if he doesn't shove Smith they can't kick. would have been from 63

And certainly close enough to expect the call.

In any case. rational Giants fans are pleased with the result.

His foot didn't touch out of bounds yet, but clearly his body was out and there was no need for the shove.

even if he was the worlds greatest contortionist? They had no time outs. Where was he going to run to ? The only realistic shot the Jets had was given to them. If one of our guys did that, he would be held in the same regard as Ray Handley

and the official made their judgement in real time, I'll give them the benefit of that fraction of a second and say it was the right call.

for the ref not to have called it. But it was a QB and Jets were the home team.

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Why would he have tried to stay in bounds Headhunter : 4:38 pm even if he was the worlds greatest contortionist? They had no time outs. Where was he going to run to ? The only realistic shot the Jets had was given to them. If one of our guys did that, he would be held in the same regard as Ray Handley

This is not relevant. It is not the job of the officials to judge strategy.

the thing might of been good for 60+ anyway

it was the extra shove after he was clearly out of bounds

"This team is special".

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you guys are insane. there is no way in a split second to pull up. his foot has not yet touched at out bounds. it was a ridiculous call exacerbated by the time of the game.

tell me more?

If a QB is heading toward the sideline you don't touch him. They call they every time.

That call is made on a QB all the time. He is giving himself up. A complete and utter stupid play that cost them a game.

You can bash Rex for a lot of shit, but his teams can play D

defender did not have to hit Geno as the sideline was his friend...

like that - I'd want the call...

if I was a Jet fan, I would want that call. The standard is not what a fan wants, but if you are going to make a call like that, you better be right. And, Smith was not out of bounds when he began contact, his foot was still in the air. He jut finished the shove. Ridiculous call.

to disagree...

that's a penalty

It's what they usually call in that situation. You cannot touch quarterbacks on the way out of bounds. You cannot touch quarterbacks on the helmet.

Especially early-season when the Refs are over-emphasising the rules like they usually do.

and just because the call is made at other times, doesn't mean it is the right call. When you make a call that will take a team from definitely losing a game (absent a hail mary) to having a good chance to win it, you better be sure you have lived up to the letter of the rule. They did not, as i understand it, because he was not out of bounds yet when the contact ensued. And, of course, a shove cannot be called unnecessary roughness.

flag. Whether we disagree with how the rule is enforced, it's not a reviewable play, and they're not going to go back and admit fault.

If you know the league is out to protect quarterbacks, don't hit one heading out of bounds.

when contact was made Smith was in the air, both feet, when he came down he was out of bounds either way it's a penalty

because it was a no brainer

They're kinda irrelevant to us

Schiano - We hit until they tell us the play is over

Thanks for proving there is a dumber coaching philosophy than Ryan's ... or even the opposite style - Fassel's ...