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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/8/2013 10:29 am
Packers at 49ers
Cardinals at Rams
I think both the Cardinals and Rams...  
Capt. Don : 9/8/2013 10:47 am : link
are underrated teams. Unfortunately their record won't reflect it because they play in a very tough division.

I think Bradford has a big year. I could also see Fitz having one of his biggest years. Not necessarily because of Palmer coming in (although that is a HUGE upgrade) but look at what Reggie Wayne did in under Bruce Arian's offense.
The NFL  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/8/2013 10:50 am : link
made it easy for which game to watch.
I really like the way the Rams  
Jay on the Island : 9/8/2013 11:36 am : link
are building up that team. They are mostly building through the draft while adding a few centerpieces like Jake Long through free agency. Their DL is young and maybe a top 3 DL this season with Quinn, Long, Brockers, and the very underrated Langford. They also have two talented young CB's in Jenkins and Johnson. Whether they can take that next step up and become a playoff contender next year comes down to whether or not Bradford can pick up his game and play to his potential.

On offense they are loaded with young talent with Austin, Quick, Givens, Bailey, Cook, and Kendricks. I think this year is too soon for them to contend for a playoff spot especially playing in a division with the Seahawks and 49ers. Once the top two teams have to deal with contract extensions with their young star QB's that should even the playing field a bit. I think the Rams will be 7-9 or 8-8 this year.
Ugh hate this scheduling  
CromartiesKid21 : 9/8/2013 4:28 pm : link
only 2 PM games is just unfair for the addicts :(
Sam Bradford  
endwerc : 9/8/2013 4:32 pm : link
Is as cross-eyed as a Siamese cat.
The shotgun delay  
endwerc : 9/8/2013 4:38 pm : link
does not work for the Packers, either.
not what i was expecting so far in SF  
ShockNRoll : 9/8/2013 4:40 pm : link
i was expecting both teams to deliver a quick strike before settling in. we'll see what san fran does with drive #2. SF defense is swarming so far.
whew  
stockton : 9/8/2013 4:42 pm : link
big play by matthews
Packers with no pass rush  
endwerc : 9/8/2013 4:45 pm : link
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that O-line for Green Bay  
SHO'NUFF : 9/8/2013 4:47 pm : link
is shaky, to say the least. How scary for Rodgers fans.
getting some audio issues  
Neverend : 9/8/2013 4:51 pm : link
with the 49er/packer game sometimes, some strange scratching noise in the background at times. hope its not just me
Jesus fucking Christ  
NewYorkGiants : 9/8/2013 4:51 pm : link
What would be 12 points for me turns out to be 2 cause Jared cook can't hold onto the fucking ball
neverend  
ShockNRoll : 9/8/2013 4:53 pm : link
the only strange and unpleasant sounds i'm hearing are joe buck and troy aikman, but aside from that, my audio is fine for the gb/sf game.
Neverend  
LikeToSaySALSA : 9/8/2013 5:10 pm : link
I hear them too. Pretty annoying.


Previous Packer drive  
dep026 : 9/8/2013 5:16 pm : link
6 passes 0 runs - TD

This drive
2 runs 0 passes - holding and lost fumble.
I hate the 49er offense  
Mike in Philly : 9/8/2013 5:18 pm : link
with their cut blocks.
Clay Matthews went for the flying clothesline  
lalalalala : 9/8/2013 5:19 pm : link

and we got a brawl
Stupid Stupid Penalty  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/8/2013 5:19 pm : link
by Matthews
Who was that tough guy who went after Matthews?  
Ace718 : 9/8/2013 5:20 pm : link
Joe Staley?
Clay Mathews  
Mike in Philly : 9/8/2013 5:20 pm : link
should be ejected for that.
Extremely stupid penalty  
illmatic : 9/8/2013 5:20 pm : link
by Matthews. That would have been fourth down. Also a stupid decision to give them another chance on third down by accepting the penalty before that.
Offsetting penalties due to Staley's stupidity.  
Ace718 : 9/8/2013 5:20 pm : link
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Let these teams destroy each other  
endwerc : 9/8/2013 5:21 pm : link
I love it.
Crazy play there  
dep026 : 9/8/2013 5:21 pm : link
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Matthews is a bitch  
Spark Em Up 22 : 9/8/2013 5:21 pm : link
it would have been great to see joe staley slam his ass
Ejected for the hit on Kaep or the swing at Staley?  
Ace718 : 9/8/2013 5:21 pm : link
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Fuck the Packers  
BurberryManning : 9/8/2013 5:21 pm : link
I don't know how I could wind up rooting for the 9ers but I find myself doing so to spite Matthews and Rodgers
dumb play by Matthews  
SHO'NUFF : 9/8/2013 5:21 pm : link
dumb play by Staley

dumb ass NFL boneheads.

Matthews might tackle Caepernick on the bench.
Sometimes I watch the Packers play  
santacruzom : 9/8/2013 5:21 pm : link
And I wonder how McCarthy managed to coach them to a Super Bowl win.
Both penalties should have been  
Scuzzlebutt : 9/8/2013 5:21 pm : link
On Matthews.
McCarthy  
illmatic : 9/8/2013 5:21 pm : link
allowed the Niners to get 7 there instead of 3.
lol  
lalalalala : 9/8/2013 5:21 pm : link

who is the moron wearing the crown? good job by security letting him on the field
Can't decide which of these 2 teams I ate more.  
Ace718 : 9/8/2013 5:22 pm : link
I guess it has to be the 9ers because of Harbaugh.
Aaron Rodgers  
Cweb23 : 9/8/2013 5:22 pm : link
that's the answer
hate* not ate  
Ace718 : 9/8/2013 5:22 pm : link
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Mike Floyd is gonna have a breakout year.  
arcarsenal : 9/8/2013 5:22 pm : link
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I would have declined the penalty.  
SHO'NUFF : 9/8/2013 5:23 pm : link
and if Beatty or Pugh did that, Coughlin would shoot them.
Ace...  
Mike in Philly : 9/8/2013 5:23 pm : link
For the hit. No reason to leave his feet and that aas a blatant shot, imo. Hefty fine coming for that.
Green  
Paul in Brooklyn : 9/8/2013 5:24 pm : link
Bay should bench Matthews for the 3rd quarter. Once they see the tape of that play at halftime, there's no way that they're going to be able to defend what their guy did there.
cant blame staley for  
footballfan : 9/8/2013 5:24 pm : link
sticking up for his QB
that leap was a la  
SHO'NUFF : 9/8/2013 5:24 pm : link
Brian Dawkins.
Real shrewd call there by McCarthy  
wgenesis123 : 9/8/2013 5:24 pm : link
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matthews is such an asshole  
ShockNRoll : 9/8/2013 5:24 pm : link
i can't stand him, and while i hate the niners more, glad to see that douche get a little crap smeared in his face there.
Colin was like  
Lord Zedd : 9/8/2013 5:25 pm : link
4 yards out of bounds. Aikman spewing his nonsense. I would have declined the penalty.
yeah, but  
SHO'NUFF : 9/8/2013 5:25 pm : link
you gotta be smarter than that.
Harbaugh working the refs before the game.  
Ace718 : 9/8/2013 5:26 pm : link
What a cry baby.
Harbaugh is going to beat the shit out of McCarthy at the end  
BurberryManning : 9/8/2013 5:27 pm : link
of the game if this sort of chippy play continues
Ridiculous to flag  
PEEJ : 9/8/2013 5:28 pm : link
Staley when Matthews had a hold of his face mask. Should have been Unnecessary Roughness on Matthews and offsetting penalties on Staley/Matthews AFTER the play
Should have declined  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 9/8/2013 5:28 pm : link
The offsides before the brawl broke out. They weren't going for it on 4th. So you gave 3 times to convert on 3rd. Stupid!
Bitch Bowl  
Motley Blue : 9/8/2013 5:29 pm : link
Really dont like San Fran or Green Bay.
Field (and sidelines) full of assholes.
Agree with PEEJ  
Lord Zedd : 9/8/2013 5:30 pm : link
That should have been a roughing on Matthews which would yield 49ers a 1st down and then a DEAD ball personal foul and Staley making it 1st and 15 for the 49ers instead of the shitty off setting crap.
Harbaugh  
PEEJ : 9/8/2013 5:30 pm : link
might have gone for it on 4th and 1
Thought Davis was about to be laid out right there.  
Ace718 : 9/8/2013 5:30 pm : link
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Absolutely:  
BlueLou : 9/8/2013 5:30 pm : link
Quote:
Clay Mathews
Mike in Philly : 5:20 pm
should be ejected for that.


If a deliberate illegal out of bounds hit like that doesn't draw a justified ejection, what does?

What a fookin tool Matthews is.
It's crazy listening to Aikman on this  
Knee of Theismann : 9/8/2013 5:32 pm : link
As long as you leave your feet before the guy's foot lands out of bounds, it is okay to slam him into the ground as hard as you can. No matter how far out of the field of play you are.
Probably down by contact there  
UConn4523 : 9/8/2013 5:40 pm : link
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Jermichael Finley....  
dep026 : 9/8/2013 5:40 pm : link
I dont care how talented he is, he hurts your team more than he helps.
There's my Jared Cook TD!  
arcarsenal : 9/8/2013 5:40 pm : link
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Finley sucks ass  
illmatic : 9/8/2013 5:40 pm : link
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For the STL game  
UConn4523 : 9/8/2013 5:41 pm : link
why do they show every angle but the one needed?
finley  
ShockNRoll : 9/8/2013 5:41 pm : link
is just the gift that keeps on giving for opposing defenses.
Cool has everything needed to put  
UConn4523 : 9/8/2013 5:42 pm : link
up top 5 TE numbers. He should be Bradford's favorite target.
Nice to see a QB make the tackle even if it was kind of ugly  
wgenesis123 : 9/8/2013 5:43 pm : link
and did not count. Still don't like Rogers though.
Aikman must be 100% wrong on that.  
BlueLou : 9/8/2013 5:44 pm : link
The intent to hit someone out of bounds cannot be allowed or excused. Leaving your feet to do so doesn't somehow make it better, du'oh!
UConn...  
arcarsenal : 9/8/2013 5:45 pm : link
I have Cook and Jordan Cameron.. I was torn between who to start today and started Cook and it seemed like I made the wrong choice.. but maybe not.
It's the right choice  
UConn4523 : 9/8/2013 5:47 pm : link
Cook is my back up for Graham but I may start Cook at my flex over Mike Williams depending on the week.
I think Cook will get  
UConn4523 : 9/8/2013 5:48 pm : link
6-8 targets per week, more if they are behind which they will be for a majority of the season.
I put Vernon over Jordan  
AnotherGiantsFan : 9/8/2013 5:48 pm : link
I probably fucked myself. Still pissed Vernon dropped that easy catch. Could of had his 2nd TD.
Yeah, I agree.  
arcarsenal : 9/8/2013 5:48 pm : link
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Gotta  
JoshB : 9/8/2013 5:51 pm : link
make that kick Feely, your team is bad enough as it is.
LOL  
MookGiants : 9/8/2013 5:51 pm : link
Referees can't even get rules correct in the NFL, but yeah, why should anyone complain about these clowns! Potentially cost the Packers 4 points if not more
So the refs screwed the packers on that call  
GloryDayz : 9/8/2013 5:52 pm : link
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Everytime GB runs the ball  
dep026 : 9/8/2013 5:53 pm : link
they either hold or lose the ball.
If there was another game on  
MookGiants : 9/8/2013 5:53 pm : link
I'd probably turn this 49ers game off, I have Rams on 2nd tv already. Every 5 seconds there's a penalty, officials that don't know basic NFL rules, sloppy shit
11th penalty  
MookGiants : 9/8/2013 5:55 pm : link
already in this game and there were a couple declined ones
Bill Leavy fucking up the rules?  
RodneyHamp : 9/8/2013 5:56 pm : link
Noooo, I don't believe you!!
wow  
Some Fan : 9/8/2013 5:57 pm : link
the Packers field goal kicker is bad
So the Refs screwed the Packers  
wgenesis123 : 9/8/2013 5:59 pm : link
BBI will be talking about it on Monday. We have our fair share of Ref haters here.
McCarthy didn't know the rule.  
wgenesis123 : 9/8/2013 6:00 pm : link
Eli would of known it.
Nnamdi really blows.  
bceagle05 : 9/8/2013 6:01 pm : link
What an odd career.
shitty display of tackling by niners...  
GloryDayz : 9/8/2013 6:01 pm : link
Harbaugh's head is going to explode in the lockerroom
I'd like to recommend  
That Said : 9/8/2013 6:03 pm : link
some electroshock therapy to cure Troy Aikman of his annoying, "than what he expected" etc. usage.
Yep  
Servo : 9/8/2013 6:06 pm : link
Coughlin would have straightened the refs out on that one and saved the Giants four points in that position.
...  
Dunedin81 : 9/8/2013 6:08 pm : link
packers defense looks significantly improved  
ShockNRoll : 9/8/2013 6:09 pm : link
kaepernick has been scrambling for his life rather than running wild. both running games look non-existent, and is lacy going to touch the ball again after his fumble?
I don't get  
santacruzom : 9/8/2013 6:11 pm : link
How a guy as good as Anquan Boldin is allowed to leave by two different GM's.
wow that first half took nearly 2 hours  
Neverend : 9/8/2013 6:13 pm : link
damn.
Luck vs. skill  
Keyser : 9/8/2013 6:17 pm : link
Luck: Jermichael Finley drops balls vs Giants in 2011 playoffs. Obviously the Giants were the beneficiary of luck that they did not deserve and should have just forfeited the game once the Packers were dropping balls since it just wasn't fair. The Packers were forced to have an inopportune bye week and it clearly cost them

Skill: Jermichael Finley drops a pass which is intercepted by the 49ers. This is obviously a case of skill by the superior 49ers as Finley was so scared of being hit by the 49ers that he purposely dropped the ball when he heard footsteps so as not to get hit. Great job 49ers. They obviously should be retroactively awarded super bowls 46 and 47 since they clearly deserved to win both games.

I hope this helps!
LOL Duned  
BrettNYG10 : 9/8/2013 6:18 pm : link
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santacruzom  
GloryDayz : 9/8/2013 6:19 pm : link
With all the hits Boldin takes/has taken in his career, at his age, no telling how long his will hold up. Guess they just want to pass the risk to another team
It's karma!  
mrvax : 9/8/2013 6:23 pm : link
The Packers have been eating some bad calls since the debacle against the Giants regular season game in 2011. And in those playoffs. That regular season game was the worst officiating I've ever seen.
Holy Boldin  
RodneyHamp : 9/8/2013 6:26 pm : link
!!
Boldin  
santacruzom : 9/8/2013 6:26 pm : link
Might get 20 catches today.
imagine what they'd be  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2013 6:27 pm : link
with Crabtree and Manningham...
We never run that  
bluesince56 : 9/8/2013 6:29 pm : link
option play at the goal line
I'm drinking in a bar if SF right now  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2013 6:30 pm : link
they looooove Kaepernick here.
Pack secondary looks like shit.  
Motley Blue : 9/8/2013 6:31 pm : link
Too many dreadlocks back there.
holy crap man  
ShockNRoll : 9/8/2013 6:32 pm : link
i thought we may see a dip in kaepernick's second year. obviously it's only week 1, but i appear to be dead wrong.
Two runs...  
dep026 : 9/8/2013 6:33 pm : link
for GB to start the half. wow.
Those 3 plays  
dep026 : 9/8/2013 6:33 pm : link
would absolutely infuriate me as a Packers fans...

Run, run, 2 yard throw. You cant run, why even try to bother with it?
.  
Will Allen/Peterson : 9/8/2013 6:34 pm : link
Hell of a debut so far for Eric Reid. Nice open field tackle there on one of the most dangerous space players in the league on third down to force a punt.
dep  
ShockNRoll : 9/8/2013 6:34 pm : link
i was just thinking the same thing. you have the best qb in the world and those are your 3 plays you come out with after giving up a td?
I also have V Davis in my fantasy team  
PatersonPlank : 9/8/2013 6:36 pm : link
Too bad my opponent has Peyton and D Thomas
Carson Palmer  
Giantology : 9/8/2013 6:39 pm : link
He still got game
Palmer to Fitzgerald  
SimpleMan : 9/8/2013 6:39 pm : link
is looking good so far
And another run  
dep026 : 9/8/2013 6:41 pm : link
for nothing.

lol, wow.
Packers backup  
dep026 : 9/8/2013 6:42 pm : link
QB in the game?

5 runs out of first 6 plays. This is just stupid.
They're moving the ball.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/8/2013 6:44 pm : link
Who cares?
10 yards  
dep026 : 9/8/2013 6:44 pm : link
on 5 carries is not moving the ball.
Shocking  
dep026 : 9/8/2013 6:45 pm : link
GB throws, GB scores.
The moved the chains.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/8/2013 6:46 pm : link
There's your TD. Good game so far.
Rodgers is  
Lord Zedd : 9/8/2013 6:46 pm : link
Pretty good.
Was Cobb down on the pass before the TD?  
GloryDayz : 9/8/2013 6:48 pm : link
Didnt look like he went down when he spun out and up into the EZ
Cool  
UConn4523 : 9/8/2013 6:52 pm : link
!
Will they ever explain the unsportsmanlike conduct penalty accessed?  
Mason : 9/8/2013 6:52 pm : link
The NFL does a bad job with that sort of stuff.
SF had about 4 holds  
dep026 : 9/8/2013 6:53 pm : link
on that play.
Kapernick  
AcidTest : 9/8/2013 6:54 pm : link
is playing great. Rocket arm and can run. Bigger, stronger, healthier version of RGIII.
Anquan Boldin is having a tremendous game  
dpinzow : 9/8/2013 6:54 pm : link
Doing everything
Successfully defending the read option  
endwerc : 9/8/2013 6:56 pm : link
gives me wood
Nice to have a linebacker that  
Headhunter : 9/8/2013 6:56 pm : link
can disrupt
Great  
AcidTest : 9/8/2013 6:57 pm : link
play by Matthews.
exactly HH  
ColHowPepper : 9/8/2013 6:58 pm : link
actually I would take any one on our d to disrupt like that, been awile
Robert  
MookGiants : 9/8/2013 7:03 pm : link
Quinn is a fucking beast
Pouncey  
AcidTest : 9/8/2013 7:15 pm : link
with a torn ACL. Foote with a torn bicep. Both out for the year. Sad.
Jordy Nelson  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/8/2013 7:17 pm : link
Wow!!!
Nelson  
RasputinPrime : 9/8/2013 7:18 pm : link
is some kind of WR.
Great  
AcidTest : 9/8/2013 7:18 pm : link
play by Nelson.
Boy Harbaugh's act gets  
map7711 : 9/8/2013 7:20 pm : link
Tiresome after awhile.
Lots of good plays today from rookies...I always wonder  
Blue21 : 9/8/2013 7:22 pm : link
why the Giants never seem to be able to get these kind of performances right from the get go from any of theirs.
Giants' rookies  
USAF NYG Fan : 9/8/2013 7:25 pm : link
are usually not given the opportunity so early in the season.
Packers defense  
endwerc : 9/8/2013 7:25 pm : link
Fewell-esque.
Kaepernik and Bolden are  
GFL in WV : 9/8/2013 7:28 pm : link
putting on a clinic. The SF offense is scary good and GB is playing a hell of a game too. Both of these teams will be extremely hard to beat- well balanced on both sides of the ball.
The SF OL is  
PhilD : 9/8/2013 7:29 pm : link
great
Now I'm REALLY glad I didn't sit Cook.  
arcarsenal : 9/8/2013 7:31 pm : link
What a day.
no D  
SBlue46 : 9/8/2013 7:32 pm : link
on either team
I don't think there is "no D"  
GFL in WV : 9/8/2013 7:36 pm : link
but two great QBs and a lot of offensive weapons. We should have either of these Ds....................
Boldin is just mental today  
SimpleMan : 9/8/2013 7:41 pm : link
The Ravens might be kicking themselves right now.
disgraceful  
MookGiants : 9/8/2013 7:41 pm : link
job covering Boldin by the Packers. They only have Davis and Boldin to throw to and Boldin hasn't been great for a few years now and he's even older
No cries about the Packers DB playing 10 yards off Boldin  
Mason : 9/8/2013 7:41 pm : link
???
Packers d has been garbage the past few years  
chris r : 9/8/2013 7:42 pm : link
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The guys who think Boldin isn't great  
santacruzom : 9/8/2013 7:44 pm : link
Are the guys who probably shouldn't have high-powered NFL jobs.
Packers  
MookGiants : 9/8/2013 7:44 pm : link
screwed royally for 2nd year in a row by the refs.

Bill Levy does not deserve to be an NFL official if he can't enforce simple rules properly. Cost Packers minimum 4 points
Another Packers lost tainted by officiating?  
Mason : 9/8/2013 7:45 pm : link
Bring back the real refs!
lol... loss  
Mason : 9/8/2013 7:45 pm : link
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Wow  
dep026 : 9/8/2013 7:46 pm : link
if the official calls that obvious hold on Matthews, it would have saved GB 40 seconds and given Rodgers over 1 minute left. May not seem like much, but 40 seconds is a lot.
Santa  
chris r : 9/8/2013 7:48 pm : link
You mean like Ozzie Newsome, one of the best GMs in the sport?
Unreal  
MookGiants : 9/8/2013 7:49 pm : link
3 man rush and Rodgers doesn't even have one second to throw.

Not impressed with 49ers defense today, the Packers made some nice plays
I hate Harbaugh  
Jerz44 : 9/8/2013 7:50 pm : link
Most annoying coach in football. I was really pulling for the Pack.
After signing Flacco, everybody else became a cap casuality  
Mason : 9/8/2013 7:51 pm : link
smh.
Mook  
footballfan : 9/8/2013 7:55 pm : link
packers will make plays against anybody
i bet Newsome  
santacruzom : 9/8/2013 7:59 pm : link
Still thinks Boldin is a great player, and simply couldn't afford him.

if he doesn't... Well, no ones perfect.
envy the talent on the Pack and Niners  
ColHowPepper : 9/8/2013 8:55 pm : link
admire the way the Packers hung in and fought back, we'll see

(As to Giants' rookies, except for the 1s and occasionally the 2s, maybe they don't play because they can't play. GB's 4th rounder starts vs Aldon Smith. Last time a Giant OL rookie drafted below 1 to start, DD
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