I'm most concerned about our inexperienced running backs coughing up the ball a few times. Also their ability to pick up the blitz. A hurried Eli can be a "throw the ball off his back foot" Eli, and that usually has very bad results.
posted in the Halftime Discussion thread like a waterhead... but what I said there is that Eli owns this stadium, let's see the Cowboys be demoralized on national TV!
Beatty is to blamed too. If Ware isnt rushing, why is he going down field? Probably would have led to an incompletion, but there were a lot of incompetent people on that play.
I just have a feeling that the pick by Manning woke him up and now this will spark Wilson. Also it will put pressure on the defense to pick up their game.
So we have to rely on this defense to win the game? Â
Giants turned the ball I over on their first two possessions against Dallas back in 2010 before storming out to a huge lead. Hopefully history can repeat itself :)
Eli is fucked up right now. He had maybe 2 good passes all of pre season. Something is off with him big time.
Meanwhile, this offense had basically three positive plays so far. Nicks catch, Randle catch and Wilson's run of 13 yards. That's it. Three possessions.
NY and Dallas have two of the best offenses in the league; the Giants have turned it over 3 times, the Cowboys once and neither team could score a TD in the red zone
And Eli. Two of the Pokes best D line ain't even out there but its hard to imagine how the offense of the Giants could be any worse. Need some good special teams tonight.
is simply not good enough to man up and push the pile for a yard. They aren't.
So, I have no idea why Killdrive does not spread the field in short yardage situations. It will at least thin out the line of scrimmage and give the defense something else to think about.
When we line up in that tight formation, the defense knows we are running the ball and you have about 18 guys between Wilson and the first down.
is the real problem with this offense, then you don't know what you are looking at. Yes he put the ball on the ground and missed a block. However, all of our problems start and end with this offensive line.
but the Giants need to sign a RB who can do the job that Andre Brown was supposed to do...which was to get those tough yards near the goal line and block.
The Giants play so many ugly, disjointed games ... Â
Eli - two bad throws.
Wilson - costly fumble and missed block.
Cruz - drop and didnt look for ball on Elis 2nd INT.
Hynoski - flat out terrible.
Beatty - losing the battle to Ware.
time will tell and you will see. Wilson cannot block in year 2 of his career? what additional seasoning does he need to block. He runs wit h little instinct like a tiny Hershel with less speed.
that red zone offense has been a huge issue for this team is complete bullshit. Since 2010 they've been 11th, 9th, and 13th as far as Red Zone TD percentage.
It's not a huge strength, but you guys act like they've been in the bottom 3rd every year
with Wilson as basically an every down back, but the Giants failure to sign a guy like Dwyer (could have been somebody else) for short yardage situations is certainly hurting us. I think Wilson is a fine running back, and his fumble, tonight, was the first one since last year. So, he is not the problem, but he is being asked to do things that he probably is not well-equipped to do.
i agree with that that they are in the top half sure, but there REDZONE Offense, compared to our 20-20 Offense is where the difference is and why it looks so frustrating.
They were on the field a while on that last drive to hold Dallas to a FG. They can't be out there all day because it's hot and they'll get tired in the 4th
and on the other hand, surprised by the coverage. perry fewell is actually calling a good game there. cover 2 man underneath is working very good, lets just hope t2 can win in the slot a little better now
There is none from the outside. That may be true for a long while. Up the middle, the D looks good. Fortunately Romo isn't playing that well yet either.
a game just for fun without as many option and choice routes. I am tkrrd of the ball going one way and the WR or TE is doing god knows what else. Its so frustrating seeingerrors from that.
Wilson is ready to breakout.
Cruz will pick uo where he left off, missing otas and most of camp wont hurt him.
JPP will beast on dallas
Hynoski will save us.
Eli will be fine once the bullets start flying
did I miss anything?
All Wilson had to do was put his hands on the LBer and then let out Â
In the game hurts. Everytime we go two backs the cowboys bring more up expecting a run. The only positive plays we've had is when he isn't in the game. Like we are telegraphing.
that Wilson has made a couple of obvious errors that even some fans with a limited football IQ can see. However, this offensive line has sucked for a couple of years. This offensive line has been the concern for this team going into this season again. All of that well before David Wilson stepped on the field today.
Let me ask some of you brain surgeons a question...
If you could improve ONE area of this team, would it be RB or O-Line?
before we kept letting throw deep that they figured out how to get their people in the right spot.
But with the way we tackling, they ddidnt have to throw it deep
has been terrific, they're frickin gassed. You can't expect them to stand on their heads while the offense has 3 turnovers and 3 and outs all the time. They need a fucking rest
Who didnt think they'll target Witten over Herzlich Â
and to be frank it's the shitfest on offense which has put the defense in the hole. The defense isn't great but it's been functional, you leave them out there all day and this is what happens.
He's the guy whose pathetic job on the OL and line backing crew is why we have retreads, draft busts, and Free agent nobody's in important postins.
I don't like Fewell but Reese thinks he can ignore that postion and I guess watching Whitten catch 15 passas a game isn't really enough for him to change his philosophy.
The last time a I felt this bad about an opening day team was when Dave Brown was still our QB...We have a team to make some plays so lets get it going now.....
would be held to 13pts in the first half, I'd have gladly taken it. If you told me the Giants would turn the ball over 3 times and once inside their own 20yrd line, and they would only give up 13pts, I'd be estatic. If you told me Eli would have 5 completions and 2 INTs and be the leading rusher on the team and we'd only be down 3 at the half, I'd say it was a miracle. Trying to blame any one player for this is a useless exercise, particularly a defense that has been out on the field for 40 plays in a half. They are lucky to be anywhere near them after that first 30 minutes.
just get no pressure. None. Zero. And against a bunch of scrubs. What are you doing to fix it coach? The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
he is a cowboys fan and i would rather him not sit in the cowboys box. With that said, I would rather him sit in the Cowboys owner's box as oppose to fake rooting for us when he really is a Cowboys fan.
he's a cowboy fan, but showing up in the owners box is a whole other level. I'm surprised his people didn't talk him out of that. At the very least there (I am pretty sure) there are rules against accepting gifts that he will have to answer.
texas is a big state for the GOP nomination in 2016 Â
LET'S GO!!!!!
Just wanted to get a head start.
Never mind if Eli actually throws it to Wilson he might still be running
That was the call?
You couldnt run a worse play to start if you tried. All preseason and 10 days of prep for that. Shameful.
This offense can't get out of it's own way.
Now, time to fuck them up.
If anybody can bounce back from that horrendous throw, it's Eli. But wow was that completely amateurish.
Hate the call, hate the decision to make the pass with guys in your face and no eye on where your receiver is.
Thankfully the defense only allowed a FG.
Wake up Eli.
Defense stones them, holds them to 3.
This could be a good motivator to take a deep breath and kick some ass.
Or maybe we'll try to shoot for a 7 INT game... We'll see
pretty loud NYG cheer in dallas too.
Need better execution but folks are open.
LETS GO!!!
Hold on to the fucking ball
This offense is really clicking.
2 turnovers.
WAKE THE FUCK UP.
it wont cost much
Sucks
Two dropped passes
One fumble
These guys realize it's not Training Camp anymore, right?
what a twat.
0-1 inside the red zone.
this offense is a joke right now
I don't know why, but every year i'm surprised just how dumb some people are.
and we're not even 5 minutes into the game!
Will make most of these stupid posts go away.
shaking head
I swear to God...never seen anything like this...it can only happen to us.
Same thing I said all last sesason, all preseason, and now 1st game.... run on 1st inside the 20. And another TO.
So get bent and go fuck yourself.
not saying it means our season is over but it means that its not a light switxh that gets turnes on
lets hope the gremlins are out and the tide turns.
Offense is going to stop fucking up. Its the defense that holds the key to the season.
Also Hynoski should not be playing
The guy has 73 total carries for the Giants. Wilson is better than him, have some patience
nice start.
it has to get better.
One Fumble
3 dropped balls
All in 7 minutes
eventually the dallas O will get going too...this is just infuriating.
Meanwhile, this offense had basically three positive plays so far. Nicks catch, Randle catch and Wilson's run of 13 yards. That's it. Three possessions.
awful
Can it get worse than this?!!
right?
Eli not a good start, but a QB can't throw to himself
And we can't catch a TO break!
Giants drive me nuts even when they win. Game is early, season is young but I dream of blowouts like other teams get.
One more down D.
NOW PUT IT IN THE END ZONE !
We suck in the green zone
That has to be seven.
Need to practice this more
classic right now
Just kick the freaking field goal already.
Mundy, ughhhhhh
we should go for it,
Neither of these teams will go to the playoffs.
UNREAL. SO FUCKING BAD.
Wanna call me a twat? Ill call you a moron. Sound good????
The Giants and Cowboys should apologize to the national audience that has to watch this crap without any skin in the game.
Wilson, wake the fuck up or sit down
What a ridiculous start to this season.
We'll be regretting this later.
Really fed up with this red zone offense.
It's somehow tied at 3
we have had REDZONE issues for years and its not like they just started when Wilson joined the team.
such a joke... LOOK AT THE CONSTANTS!!!!
Same issues repeating themselves for the offense.
Jumps from the 3 yd line, misses a blitz pick up. Da'Rell Scott get ready.
This team...well, the offense... looks like complete crap.
1st down play action ......
Easy TD .....
Andre Brown, where art thou?
It's tied, let's just start fresh and get this shit going PLEASE
I guess Coughlin was the guard that got destroyed, Gilbride was the fullback that got destroyed. Coughlin also made Wilson miss his block.
The players didn't execute. When you have 1st and goal from the 1 and the offensive line gets shoved back 3 yards, it's not coaching, it's execution
wake the fuck up man. youre rb1
So, I have no idea why Killdrive does not spread the field in short yardage situations. It will at least thin out the line of scrimmage and give the defense something else to think about.
When we line up in that tight formation, the defense knows we are running the ball and you have about 18 guys between Wilson and the first down.
Dallas again with the slant.
No one should be surprised with a VT player
that tiptoe on 1st and G was awful
Selective memory with Bradshaw considering Coughlin used to rip him for not being a good blocker, then he turned into a very good one down the road.
Wilson is going to be great.
i just think its crazy how this is the same story year in and year out. new players, same result.
either we are running the most complicated red zone offense in the history of the sport, or we are signing the dumbest players known to man
these turnovers are really spiking my blood pressure right now. coughlin must be on suicide watch right now
Wilson - costly fumble and missed block.
Cruz - drop and didnt look for ball on Elis 2nd INT.
Hynoski - flat out terrible.
Beatty - losing the battle to Ware.
And its 3-3. Could be worse. Should be better.
Lets hope the D can play this way all game.
The Dallas is is really a one trick pony w Ware
we so surprised?
Another
slant.
Another
slant.
See a pattern Perry?
It's not a huge strength, but you guys act like they've been in the bottom 3rd every year
Never would have guessed Hayden would be starting in the NFL
Ugh.
first drive a bone head play by Eli.
second drive a Wilson fumble killed nice drive
third drive was a blown wilson block.
I hope Eli and Wilson get their heads out of their asses
DAL NYG
That was going to be another slant before Thomas broke it up.
D has played well.
Eli, Wilson et al need to get their heads out of their asses.
Did I actually just type that?
Now wake the fuck up offense.
be suckin wind soon
The DE's look tired already.
Eli better put a successful drive together.
Nothing from Cruz.
And Wilson ran right into the block. WTF???
Both teams look like shit.
i really hope they can find another RB somehow to SPLIT with wilson.
can't make this shit up
Piss poor fundamentals
Cruz will pick uo where he left off, missing otas and most of camp wont hurt him.
JPP will beast on dallas
Hynoski will save us.
Eli will be fine once the bullets start flying
did I miss anything?
Wow. Slant.
And we miss a chance at a turnover.
The reason the defense has been on the field a lot is because they havent gotten off the field the last 3 drives.
Pascoe has experience and he has practiced the full ack position for 2 months.
no good.
LB Dan Connor has a burner. #NYG
Let me ask some of you brain surgeons a question...
If you could improve ONE area of this team, would it be RB or O-Line?
Our LBs can't cover anyone. Anyone.
Mundy sucks too
But with the way we tackling, they ddidnt have to throw it deep
time to put up points.
Witten is the best receiver and open. good thing we kept Herzlich... can u be washed up if you were never good?
Way to get ur team ready couglin
It this continues, Weatherford will be getting the BBI trophy at the end of the season.
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU NOT HAVE A PLAY READY ON THE OPENING PLAY OF A DRIVE!
Hah
Ha TO coming out of the KO
Giants - 7 min
Don't blame the defense
I don't like Fewell but Reese thinks he can ignore that postion and I guess watching Whitten catch 15 passas a game isn't really enough for him to change his philosophy.
Blueballz : 9:38 pm
cost us the game.
...because Herlich is the reason why our offense cannot string two first downs together.
My God. How much worse can these idiots get?
Now the offense raking up the yucks.
The injuries to the safeties has really messed up his plan.
Nice throw Eli
What the fuck kind of game is this?!
13-10
/snicker
Amazing,
13-10 now in a game where the Giants should be nowhere close
I'll take 13-10 after this shitty half.
D needs to make a stop.
No shit. Good coaching is about making adjustments.
Your LBs suck Coughlin. So take one out and play an extra DB. Might help against those ubiquitous slants as well.
the 10 all year
can we get more of those tonight?
DO NOT LET DALLAS SCORE BEFORE HALF
Someone earlier said we are lucky we are playing the Cowboys right now.
Another slant. And two players are hurt.
I already hate Mundy, I can't believe he was even anywhere near the backup plan at safety
and ROMO looks dead
TRATTOUE!!!!!!
you are really bitching about a guy not getting a 90+ yd TD return?
Reminds me of what jacobs used to do to linebackers
Kyle Orton terrifies me.
DICK.
Giants love to LOSE to backup QB's... please just hit him enuff to be skiddish not to be ded
(I guess the obvious answer is at big punt returns are the result of plays at wind up being penalties)
after saying all week that NYG and Jets are Jersey teams.
well he is a Rep...that shows you
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