New York Giants-Dallas Cowboys: Post-Game Discussion

in the end zone is really pissing me off right now

is brutal. Eli had to make someone miss every fucking pass attempt.

His career has fallen off a cliff.

with his Sean Bennett type run in pre season. His career likely takes a similar arc.

when the QB has 450 yds and 4 TDs. Eli doubled Romo.

The problem was the fumbles more than anything else. And that was a bad pass by Eli to Scott.

Hey they will learn from today. I'm actually calm. They did not give up.

because of the six turnovers is Killdrive's ridiculous gameplan. He didn't go spread until we were down 17 (he always waits till we get behind) and then he did what we and all other coaching staffs would have done from the start spread them and kill them with your 3 stud wideouts. First and goal from the one and he shows you he is going to run power with the formation. For one half of the game he had the out of shape fullback on the field instead of going spread. Oh...and by the way your back (Wilson) is perfect for the spread.

... this season until the Giants stop making so many damn mistakes.

But the fact is we were in this game till the end. That despite six turnovers. A game doesn't make a season. That we were in this game to the end, despite the miscues, speaks volumes for what may come. Remember, our last two superbowl seasons started (I believe) 0 and 1. Let's list the positives: Cruz is still Cruz; Hakeem is back; Pugh is the real deal (despite his small arms); all is not lost at safety; the DTs were solid; Randle showed he can be a third option.

It's a hard loss in that we should have won tonight but for the turnovers. But Tom is not going to let this sit, and this team will bounce back big time. And Wilson will be a big part of it.

So goes the optimist.

not anything extraordinary that Dallas did. Anytime your elbow is open and not closed while carrying the ball you are playing with fire.

we've just restructured him and we'll probably do so again to free up cap space.

"You can't win turning over the football ... we're going to fix that too."

I thought I was watching the 1973 Giants out there.

Just ... wow.

Sucks right now. The stiffs Dallas had on their DL outplayed our guys. Dallas ' stunts and twists gave our OL fits.

granted, he fumbled twice tonight. Both were good plays made by the defense. All night they'd been getting their hands on the ball and trying to wrench it out of the ballcarriers' hands. It worked twice on Wilson, but could have easily worked again the other 4, 5 time i saw it nearly happen. Give some credit to the defense on that.

As for Wilson, tough break for the kid and could be a confidence killer but I think he'll come back from that, if Coughlin will let him play.

I know it was 6 turnovers. I was saying we had 5 turnovers at one point and yet had a very good shot to win it.

Are you kidding me? The OL was awful. Eli's greatness dressed up that shot performance.

He's not the answer. Wilson has to bounce back.

You know why Parcells loved McConkey as a returner? He didn't get big yardage but he saved field position and secured the ball. He rarely let it hit the ground when it becomes a live grenade. Randle was the least of the problems and he should have called out fire or whatever, but he still should have run to that ball and not sit back,

can I have some of what your smoking?

in 2010. And it never got fixed all season long.

6 turnovers. That's embarrassing.

and couldn't block my grandfather and he's a long time dead. Wilson's blocking was abysmal tonight.

I can't remember the last year we didn't have at least one top notch RB in the stable.

Wilson should be cut

He's not ready and may only be a change of pace guy. He was a solid kick returner, that should be his role for now. We need a vet RB ASAP, not sure whose available but they need to sign someone quick. Defense played ok, I wish Fewell would of blitzed more but the defense played way too many plays. We'll find out what this team is made of the next two weeks.

Eli was running for his life.

"Wilson can run with the ball with 2 hands line everybody else."

and piled on 10-12 hits, but with the junk Dallas had on their lines, I expected more.

Eli was getting pressured all night.

1) On the punt, who's to say Randle didn't warn everyone to clear? He was seen waving his arms to get away, which is usually accompanied by screaming a key word also. I think that was on McBride.

2) I'm more concerned with Wilson's pass blocking than the fumbles.

Jeff and cobraguy have certainly elevated the bar.

This team is close to being very good. They have at least 2 and seemingly 3 STUD receivers and a great QB. And the defense actually looked pretty good overall tonight.

Not a stretch to say they're a Willis Mcgahee type signing from being what they always are - a sure 8-8 team which is only a handful of fuckups from being 11-5 or 10-6.

This is not the jaguars, Jesus...

will get some more reps. They'll bring in another RB. I wouldn't count the Giants out at all.

not sure you risk the catch when there's a 50/50 chance it bounces 10 yards back towards the punter.

and Dallas scores 36 points. It's very "Giants". Such a weird team. There's always stories and angles for everyone. I don't even know how to classify how the offense played.

Great and horrible at the same time. That's a really frustrating loss. We can certainly recover from 1, but I'm not sure how many games like this we can afford to give away.

looked his first few years. Lets be a bit patient - he's got serious talent.

But Reese does deserve some blame for not bringing in some more reliable depth at the position, given Wilson's inexperience and Brown's injury history.

Even without a vet RB I think we are the team you describe. This will be like 2011. This team will go as far as Eli will take them if the D is average.

let's cut Wilson! You should be the GM!!!

...get out of his stance and the games has been over for 20 minutes.

he is a prime cut candidate next year unless he flat out takes a pay cut. They can save over 7 million by cutting him next year, he's not staying at anything close to that number

at Wilson

...was whether Cruz, Nicks and Randle would develop into the three-headed monster they need to be for the 2013 Giants to be a threat. That question was answered strongly in the affirmative. It's overshadowed by the loss - and should be. But if the rest of the team simply stops giving games away, this team could be a tough out.

FWIW, I think they have to stick with Wilson. Too much upside there to settle for a mediocrity like Ryan Torain.

Scott is a 7th round pick. Wilson is a 1st round pick, that talked about being a starter and every down back. So far he is becoming the reincarnation of Rocky Thompson. Great on specials but not really great from the LOS. Very similar players.

He simply cannot hang onto the ball after contact.

You don't risk the catch. Randle made the right call.

Jeff and cobraraised the bar, and Rich in Houston jumped right over it.

Yeah. Lets cut a 2nd year first round RB because he's had a few hiccups. Go to bed you idiot.

new guys there and one out of position. You need to get a grip.
Eli was sacked twice, so was Romo.

We had a running back that had a fumbling problem for 3 years and fumbled three time against the Eagles in one game. He turned out to be the best running back in Giants history once Coughlin got to him - Tki Barber.

is not the problem..this O w/ sucks...Eli threw into traffic.
No excuse for fumbling but Wilson isnt a power runner
we can score 40 points a game if KG puts a gameplan together

I saw them both play. Tiki had instincts, Wilson has none. It is all the difference at RB. I would love Doug Martin right now. We would have won that game.

Wilson had one fumble all last year.. BRADSHAW fumbled more last year..

But we will be holding our breath every time he touches the ball this season, and that is really a horrible feeling to have with your #1 running back.

on kickoffs.