and it's up to Coughlin and the staff to coach him up without killing his confidence. he's a talented kid. I'd rather Cox get some touches over Scott. Much more upside.
Agree with the more rational voices on this site about the positive play of the D and the ability of this team to fight back.
Dallas stinks. Their D gave up almost 500 yards despite a huge advantage in time of possession.
I just don't understand our red zone play calling.
I struggle to think of many worse openers during my lifetime. Id rather lose 35-0 like we did on opening night in '95 to them than turn the ball over 6 times and lose a heartbreaker we essentially gave away. What a shitty morning. And now we get the Bronco offense possibly without Prince staring down the barrel at 0-2
The main positive I take from the game is that Cruz looks healthy off the heel and Nicks looked the best he has since the Tampa game last year. If we can move the ball this easily through the air, this is our division. But what a fucking shitty night last night was
you aren't going to get much pressure if the other team is content to throw the ball 5 yards down the field. I think Romo averaged less than 6 yards an attempt, which is pathetic. The Cowboys were obviously concerned about their ability to protect the passer (and rightly so from the number of times he was hit playing nickel and dime). The couple of times they tried to go down the field, Romo paid the price.
But the defense played well, especially our interior line. I thought they got a good push and disrupted the Cowboy offense. Manning had some big throws, although the interceptions were unforgiveable (the last one was horrendous!)
Any doubls about the health of Cruz and Nicks were put to bed very quickly. And Randle continued his strong play in the preseason. Meyers, after a first quarter drop, contrbuted and became a reliable option.
But, all things considered, after turning the ball over five times, we still were at midfield, with two minutes left, and a final score 31-30 not a stretch of the imagination. We were ALL thinking that. The last pick was about as deflating as one could ever be. The comeback was cut short.
Reminds me of 10 years ago when the Redskins caused "funbles" by holding up the runner until they could strip the ball away. The league then ruled that the play was dead when "forward progress has been stopped". This seemed to have taken care of the problem until last nite., when Wilson was held upright til the cowboys could strip 8the ball away from him.
This was not a fumble. the whistle should have been blown when his forward progress had been stopped.
Coughlin should have thrown a flag, instead of obviously blaming DW for the " fumble".
they'll let us in anyway because we had 6 turnovers in the first game and only lost by 5 points! Fucking pathetic performance. I don't see any positives coming out of a game like this
featuring 3-100 yard receivers in one game (a franchise first), and the defense playing the way they did despite being run ragged, you're just being emotional.
Maybe you would have preferred a repeat performance of last year's atlanta game. That would have been more pleasurable.
They can't protect Eli AT ALL, and they gave our backs no room to work with. Brewer sucks(sorry Anak), and Baas needs to come back, so that Boothe can slide back into his spot at Guard. Pugh looks legit at least. Beatty played very well on Ware for most of the night.
I was at that game here in ATL and it was so much worse.....everyone needs to calm down and see that the turnovers were what lost us the game....but still we almost won it.... This stuff is very correctable.....we cut down the turnovers and time of possession becomes more in our favor.... And our D still did a good job even though they should have been gassed.
Dallas didn't play much better and the Giants had a real shot at winning the game in the 4th quarter, except for one botched screen pass.
I still am not sure who is to blame for that - Eli or Scott.
Let's see what happens tonight. If you think one game is so important, then tonight may show us who the Division winner will be and we won't have to play the rest of the season.
I love how my Monday has been so fucking brutal. All because of the first game of the regular season. Summer was good but it's football season now and I'm going to love every second of it, including like right now where I both love it and hate the shit out of it.
6 turnovers with an embarrassing performance by Wilson
There's not much to say about Wilson. He was about as bad as you could be. He missed blocks and put the ball on the ground twice. He's the NFL's joke of the week and all of us Giants fans are going to have to take it until he proves himself worthy of the starter spot. The good news is, he IS a talented player. He just needs to prove it. I still trust the kid and love his potential but I need to see some results.
But I gotta say, I'm EXTREMELY excited about this team's offense. Eli had his down moments but looked great last night when the team needed him to score in the 2nd half, and our WR unit played fantastic. Nicks/Cruz/Randle all played strong. If David Wilson decides to show up, this offense has a ton of explosiveness. Hopefully Wilson shows up.
The defense did a commendable job. They'll have a tougher test next week against Peyton, hopefully they are ready.
A brutally sloppy Week 1 loss + a loaded Week 2 opponent. We're staring 0-2 right in the face but I'm actually not too worried yet.
6 turnovers for the offense + leading rusher with 23 yards. And yet I was still impressed by the offense. If this running game can get going this is an offense with elite potential.
goes to the veteran QB who hit Ware with a screen on the first play, threw a second interception shortly after, didn't show any imagination or seem to know which of his pllayers were rookies, which veterans, threw a bullet at a rookies back in the clutch, and wouldn't tackle to stop a pick six. Shows some talent, but what a wild man. My great game in trying circumstances game ball goes to the whole defense. My give me a break protest goes out to the refs, (when is roughing the kicker not roughing the kicker, and the Linval Joseph crawl-push roughing the passer, and a few more), and to the breaks (I know we owed Dallas the finger out of bounds from last year),since every time (but one, the Amuk deflection) the ball went up for grabs they got it.
Scott avg per carry, 4.6 yds, total 23. Scott 5 receptions 51 yds, total ydg 74 yds, late replacement for D. Wilson. DeMarco Murray, 84 total yards, Dallas starting running back.
Eli cant throw it, never has been able to. What a shit of a play that must have been scripted 2 weeks ago during the preseason. That is on Gilbride. Please let our passing game set up our running game. Use our 3 top weapons in Cruz, Nicks and Randle then when they drop 8 let Scott or whoever we pick up go up the middle for 5. Our O-Line cant run block very good, they need to pass block better. Thats why I hope who ever we sign at RB can pass block bc Wiolson had some epic fails and whiffs trying to protect Manning. Dont use the run to set up the pass. Switch it around like almost every other team in the NFL has.
Look at the good teams...do they have great RB's ?? NO. Broncos. no. SF, yes, but they pass first and then use Gore. GB. no. New Orleans. no. Last night all Dallas did was pass. Romo had like 35 attempts by half.
We can do the same thing. Let the running game come to you after your WR's blow the casket off the D. When they start using Nickle and dropping 8, then run the ball.
Passing plays to set up the run. Passing plays to set up the run.
Passing plays to set up the run. Passing plays to set up the run.
Nicks was catching everything his way. Surprised they didnt go deep to him more. Cruz is playing lights out. And Randle is emerging as a very good WR. All had over a 100 yds each. Let those guys set the tone. Then when opposing D's get pass weary, we run up the middle.
It seems Gilbride tries too much to use the run to set up the pass. With our RB issues and O-Line issues lets make our 3 top weapons set the tone. They will. Eli isnt going to have a core group of Nicks, Cruz, and Randle with a pass catching TE like Myers again after this season. Lets start burning teams to open up games.
Why wait til the 3rd QT to start throwing TD's and having Eli throw it all over the field.
The run will come. We need to be more of a team that opposing DC's need to say we must stop Nicks, Cruz, and Randle to even have a shot at winning. Our D-Line needs to step up too. We should be getting pressure every single time the QB drops back. If the D-Line and the O-Line can play to their ability and Gilbride lets Eli use his top 3 weapons to START the game, I think it would lead to a refreshing 1st half of football. Let the run come. Every team is a pass first team besides a few now. I know in the 90's it was the other way around. But let Eli havea monster year. Hes going to put some real scary numbers if they let him start games by coming out and using Nicks Cruz and Randle.
Agree with the more rational voices on this site about the positive play of the D and the ability of this team to fight back.
Dallas stinks. Their D gave up almost 500 yards despite a huge advantage in time of possession.
I just don't understand our red zone play calling.
The main positive I take from the game is that Cruz looks healthy off the heel and Nicks looked the best he has since the Tampa game last year. If we can move the ball this easily through the air, this is our division. But what a fucking shitty night last night was
Any doubls about the health of Cruz and Nicks were put to bed very quickly. And Randle continued his strong play in the preseason. Meyers, after a first quarter drop, contrbuted and became a reliable option.
But, all things considered, after turning the ball over five times, we still were at midfield, with two minutes left, and a final score 31-30 not a stretch of the imagination. We were ALL thinking that. The last pick was about as deflating as one could ever be. The comeback was cut short.
Hang in ther guys. All is not so bad.
This was not a fumble. the whistle should have been blown when his forward progress had been stopped.
Coughlin should have thrown a flag, instead of obviously blaming DW for the " fumble".
Maybe you would have preferred a repeat performance of last year's atlanta game. That would have been more pleasurable.
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I still am not sure who is to blame for that - Eli or Scott.
Let's see what happens tonight. If you think one game is so important, then tonight may show us who the Division winner will be and we won't have to play the rest of the season.
6 turnovers with an embarrassing performance by Wilson
There's not much to say about Wilson. He was about as bad as you could be. He missed blocks and put the ball on the ground twice. He's the NFL's joke of the week and all of us Giants fans are going to have to take it until he proves himself worthy of the starter spot. The good news is, he IS a talented player. He just needs to prove it. I still trust the kid and love his potential but I need to see some results.
But I gotta say, I'm EXTREMELY excited about this team's offense. Eli had his down moments but looked great last night when the team needed him to score in the 2nd half, and our WR unit played fantastic. Nicks/Cruz/Randle all played strong. If David Wilson decides to show up, this offense has a ton of explosiveness. Hopefully Wilson shows up.
The defense did a commendable job. They'll have a tougher test next week against Peyton, hopefully they are ready.
A brutally sloppy Week 1 loss + a loaded Week 2 opponent. We're staring 0-2 right in the face but I'm actually not too worried yet.
6 turnovers for the offense + leading rusher with 23 yards. And yet I was still impressed by the offense. If this running game can get going this is an offense with elite potential.
He's probably not used to the velocity that Eli slings the football on screens.
That said, Eli has to put better touch on those screen passes. Way too much force imo
Now I hate them every time. Pretty soon they're going to show commercials between passes.
Look at the good teams...do they have great RB's ?? NO. Broncos. no. SF, yes, but they pass first and then use Gore. GB. no. New Orleans. no. Last night all Dallas did was pass. Romo had like 35 attempts by half.
We can do the same thing. Let the running game come to you after your WR's blow the casket off the D. When they start using Nickle and dropping 8, then run the ball.
Passing plays to set up the run. Passing plays to set up the run.
Passing plays to set up the run. Passing plays to set up the run.
We can win games
It seems Gilbride tries too much to use the run to set up the pass. With our RB issues and O-Line issues lets make our 3 top weapons set the tone. They will. Eli isnt going to have a core group of Nicks, Cruz, and Randle with a pass catching TE like Myers again after this season. Lets start burning teams to open up games.
Why wait til the 3rd QT to start throwing TD's and having Eli throw it all over the field.
The run will come. We need to be more of a team that opposing DC's need to say we must stop Nicks, Cruz, and Randle to even have a shot at winning. Our D-Line needs to step up too. We should be getting pressure every single time the QB drops back. If the D-Line and the O-Line can play to their ability and Gilbride lets Eli use his top 3 weapons to START the game, I think it would lead to a refreshing 1st half of football. Let the run come. Every team is a pass first team besides a few now. I know in the 90's it was the other way around. But let Eli havea monster year. Hes going to put some real scary numbers if they let him start games by coming out and using Nicks Cruz and Randle.