In the Minority, I'd Stick with Wilson and Scott

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than running/fumbling.

I just don't see how a runner who goes down so easily and runs straight ahead with no agility, no cutting ability can be really useful.

then he can help Wilson. I agree with SanFran though. It is Wilson's pass protection blocking that has me the most worried.

I do think we need a vet in there and you can't cut Cox

They just do not have enough depth in case of an injury to one or both of Wilson or Scott.

but I do think you need to bring in some one in case of further injuries.

disagree that Wilson and Scott may be out best options, there is absolutely no question that we could use a veteran back to at least mentor and teach these young RBs.

i agree with that.

2nd & goal was horrendous, cringe worthy.

If he can't block, he's not going to play. Simple as that.

I wouldn't mind having either one on the roster, but both of them and nobody else doesn't make me very comfortable. They're missing blocks (complicated further by our OL situation), turning the ball over and just both look too raw at this point.

That's why I'd almost rather have Jacobs back, even if his running is subpar. Knows the system, known entity in terms of turning the ball over, and maybe dangerous enough that he's still a credible running threat in addition to being good in pass protection.

I don't see any reason to keep Scott.

Wilson didn't look good in all aspects of the game last night - but he didn't really fumble - the ball was wrestled away from him twice - he's got to learn not to let that happen - his blocking was outright bad -

defensible, but I agree the bigger problem is Wilson's pass blocking. It might make more sense to use Donnell more, especially if Hyno still isn't 100%.

a game or two to see if both can play better. I want to see Wilson's character and if he can rebound. Scott I can't really blame. He was thrown in to the fire and did okay. The last play was a bad luck. I want to see more of Scott and see if he can get better.

Let's see if things can get better next game. If not, then let's see if we can bring in a veteran. But I want to see if Wilson can rebound first and if Scott can adjust to his role and get better.

have no idea what some of you were seeing.

Put Wilson right back in there. In the long run, he will give the Giants the best chance to win..

can't have Wilson doing Kick Returns. I think it helps him get fired up and more importantly get rid of the jitters.

They weren't terrible fumbles, Dallas made good plays, but you can't have two of them and you have to get down. Gotta know defenders will be going for the strip.

presser last night. Said we "need him" about Wilson. But this shit has to stop. As TC said, the plays were basically over on those fumbles. They wrestled it from him on the way down. And he can't crap himself in the face of an oncoming blitzer.

... but Wilson is the guy. Coughlin/Reese made the decision to go with these three guys (including Cox).

I can see taking Wilson out for a series or two. but sitting him the rest of the half for Scott? Come on, it was Coughlin's decision to shape the roster like he did. You know damn well what you're getting with Wilson.

He's still the best running back you have and has to be on the field in the 4th quarter. If Brown was playing, I get it. But letting Scott play (was wasn't terrible but just OK) instead of Wilson? Just didn't like that at all

to wonder about the confidence level of Wilson at this point. But, that being said, man, I would absolutely demand that he start carrying the ball like Tiki did and, frankly, I have never understood why more guys don't.

But you definitely need a veteran there to guide Wilson along...but I do agree it is time to move forward and stick with these guys for the next couple of games.

Teams are going to test them, though, especially in terms of their blocking for Eli. We have to expect that now

can keep our QB upright. Wilson looked lost out there.

from off the street who can block and protect Eli. If we sign someone beyond that, are we really asking/expecting them to do anything more than not fumble? That bar is pretty low. We should just pass 80 times per game then. If blocking weren't an issue, I'd say stick w/ Wilson and Scott until they get it.

he is afraid to be hit in the mouth which means he never attempts to hit the rushing defensemen in the mouth...always diving at the feet and they are expecting that and leap or go around him....


he is a 3rd down change of pace RB....

but only because there appear to be no better alternatives. The Giants may have promoted Wilson too early so to speak but that's something that can be corrected, though it's a shame when a first round running back can't hit the ground running when many around the league seem able to.

be fair to Wilson, although he should have gotten in the way more, it's very tough for a 205 pound running back to block a 270 pound DE.

I can't do it. But I wasn't a first round draft pick.

How big was Bradshaw?

Wilson's a youngster, it takes reps and recognition in practice and when live bullets are flying, but he's got to improve rapidly.

I always assumed JonC was 6'6" 285.

that Wilson needs to develop.

Was that post meant to inform or boast?

he has to do it. And if he isn't willing to stick his hat in the 270 lb lineman's chest then he cannot be an every down player. He then would have to be the KO specialist and a situational package player. That "attempt" to block on 2nd a goal was just inexcusable. That is why he didn't play last year. And that is what will keep him from being a full time player. But I still think they have to let him keep trying for now. I just hope it doesn't get Eli killed in the process.

Bradshaw is built differently, but the more important point is how often was Bradshaw asked to block the one-on-one?

block the DE one-on-one

Classic case in point - Ron Dayne.

The size of the fight in the dog

He's actually 10 feet tall and if he were on the field last night, he would have vanquished the Cowboys with fireballs from his eyes and bolts of lightning from his arse.

I'd rather have a 5'9 200lb back than a 6'5 260 pound back who needs holes blocked with a wrecking ball or else he flops.

Tiki was 5'9 210. Chris Johnson isn't a large man (and also can't block for shit). Warrick Dunn was 5'10 190.

Didn't stop them from having good, successful careers.

for years, so I' would think while rare, it did happen.

but what we really need is a back that can handle both short yardage and be good at blitz pickups.

He was fearless. And so was Meggett.

Also sucked big time in his first few seasons. In fact he was so bad, the Giants drafted another RB. And we all know what happended then.

Way too early to give up on Wilson.

inform and boast. He's a dual threat.

about Cruz dropping everything in the first game.

Giants went out and signed Stokely.

We all know what happened next...

Jacobs would bring some ferocity and confidence to this running back corp. Great mentor for Wilson.

is the one who fixed Tiki Barber's fumbling problem... for what its worth.

They need to coach him up to stop the fumbling and keep his spirits up (they need him this year). Odds are they will sign someone on Big Tuesday as a veteran back because they have to have more options back there. But Wilson needs to overcome this and grow from it.

Some top NFL backs have had fumbling problems, and several fumbled twice in a game. Joe Morris did it in 1988 vs. the Saints. Tiki did it a few times vs. the Eagles. Eric Dickerson had the same problem. He's too talented a back to just bury and give up on, but the bottom line, until Brown comes back, they need him. Period. He had a horrible game on National TV and the Giants lost. But as far as I know, he actually woke up this morning. Let him go back to work, watch film, work hard at practice and get him ready for Denver.

but if JonC is the same size why isn't he trying out tomorrow instead of dicking around on this message Board - we need him...and we need him now.

Fumbling 9 times in a single season and still running is fearless.

just identify a target and blow him up like JW did to Free last night (which was a thing of beauty) to get rid of the jitters. That might work.

fumbled a lot for the same reason - fighting to stay up and get that extra yard or two.

But when Eli goes down and stays down after Wilson completely whiffs on a blitz pickup, you might change your mind. But it would be too late.

Wilson's blocking ineptitude is a disaster waiting to happen.

where we need him most.

He was having a nice rookie year and got hurt. Poor 1998 season but in 1999 he ran well in limited chances, caught 66 passes and was an excellent punt returner.

but he has also made himself more of a target because now all defenders will be licking their lips and rippin away at that ball.

I brought this up last night.

AP fumbled 16 times from 2008-2009.

Wilson had a bad night. He will learn from it and hopefully redeem himself.

It was the 1st game that we were still in at the end, even after the turnovers. Wilson will turn it around as well, I'm confident in that.

if he was doing so well why did they draft Dayne?

Scott isn't very good doesn't have a future on this team anyway. But he does know the offense and a veteran would take a few weeks to get acquainted with the playbook before contributing significantly (I'm assuming).

Of course, Jacobs does know the playbook and could come in right away. He's a great blocker as are a few others out there and can move the pile on short yardage since the offensive line apparently can't.

Dickerson fumbled because he was very tall for a RB (6'3", almost 6'4") and ran very straight up, like a sprinter. So teams would be able to get a good shot at him by the ball and knock it loose. But if they missed, he'd be at full speed just past the line of scrimmage and would be gone.

But I do agree with your point on Bradshaw, he fumbled when fighting for an extra inch or yard. Remember how he fumbled late in the 2011 Championship game but the refs gave him forward progress? Wilson doesn't seem careless with the ball, he just needs to be more aware as he fights for that extra yard.

obviously you stick with..he's too talented to cast aside, but I see nothing that would make me want to stick with Scott..he doesn't make the roster if Brown doesn't go down

Well, for one thing Toupee Ernie ran awful drafts. For another thing, the Giants had Tiki pigeonholed as a third-down back. They wanted Dayne to be a workhorse #1 and for Tiki to be Dave Meggett.

he needs to stick his nose into that 270 lbs DE. It hurts alot, it's not pleasant, but it's part of the job. Bradshaw isn't any bigger but he did it. Wilson perhaps cost us a td making that silly dive at the pass rusher's feet. You simply can't have that.

for 258 yards.

their backup running back was lunging for that extra few inches and was drilled by Lindval and Rivers and the ball came out, but Dallas had their TE in the right spot to fall on it.

I noticed this about Wilson last year, for a smaller guy, he's very powerful and will carry some bigger guys an extra yard or two as he's fighting to get more yards. But in doing so, that just sets up other players to rip at the ball. It's a fine line to know as a running back (or WR for that matter), when to give up on the play and just go down and when to fight for that extra yard without risking a fumble.

he's done... Punt returner at best...

the first fumble was when he was bottled up. Hyno missed his block and crashed into Wilson. The defender reached in and ripped it out. The second one was as he was going to the ground. He has to hold on to that. That's bad luck. Credit the Cowboys for trying to get him to fumble

We had our backs fumble. Jacobs did too. Sometimes in bad spots like the goal line in the Gb playoff game. Kevin Boss recovered it at the 1 yard line.

Shit happens, I want to see if he has the mental fortitude to rebound or not. I am interested in seeing that character trait.

Let Wilson go back to being the 3rd down guy.

Let me know when the GHH does that. SPOILER ALERT!!!! He won't.

Someone with something left in the tank. Reliable.

Bring back jacobs and cut scott.

who can block. But it wasn't all Wilson or Scott's fault. Hynoski didn't block well either. And the play calls didn't make any sense. Why run a screen on your first offensive play of the season when everyone is hyped. Call some running plays to calm your team down. And why try a screen to Ware's side. Stupid play calling.

And just once I'd like Coughlin, who talks about player accountability, to stand up there and say the he and Gilbride called bad plays that put their players in position to fail.

blocking play are you guys upset with? The Selvie play on the goal line or something else?

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Reminds me of 2011 when everyone panicked jlukes : 11:44 am about Cruz dropping everything in the first game. Giants went out and signed Stokely. We all know what happened next...

Back to the basic premise of this thread - yeah. Sometimes, you have to just fight through the dumb mistakes. Toomer, Tiki, etc. all had their issues early in their careers.

And, when they get their acts together - we may have one of the faster backfields in the league.

I think signing a veteran would help if for not other reason than mentoring.

brutal

TC will get wilson straightened out.. and Wilson will keep playing I think.

That said, i would like to see the Giants add a vet RB just to be there for these kids at a minimum, even if the Vet has few carries.

I am not sure what that means roster wise but I think we need some vet leadership there.

Or bring in TIKI or someone who has been through what wilson is going through...

Coughlin did take blame for the sloppiness and ineptitude of his team in his press conference.

And a well executed screen to take advantage of an over hyped hard charging defensive front is brilliant, if it's well executed....

Tomorrow is going to be very interesting. Are the Giants bringing in some vets to light a fire under these guys, or will they actually sign one? If they sign one, my guess would be that TC/Gilbride/Ingram expected Wilson to be further along at this point.

The real issue, I think, is depth.

That's the argument for signing someone.

Unless I'm mistaken, the Giants carried four RBs plus Hynoski last year.

that seems like a strength thing that may be harder to fix than fumbling. If Wilson was holding the ball wrong or putting in on the ground, I know that is fixable. But he got victimized twice last night on just getting the ball pulled away from him.

Is somebody that should be looked at being replaced. He was brutal.

He was good in our SB run but I haven't see much positive since the beginning of last year from him.

You may be right given that it sounds like McGahee was set up on Friday (unless they were already concerned from practices last week or even earlier).

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He's the only guy who can be even adequate running the ball. It's up to the coaches and Wilson himself to get the issues straightened out. This isn't rocket science kind of stuff. Hold on to the ball and block the right guy.

The whole size and weight argument for poor blocking is a joke IMO. Blocking is about technique, leverage and attitude. Wilson is 5'9, same with Bradshaw, MJD, Rice, etc... They all block fine. Marshawn Lynch blocks like a Mack truck, he is two inches taller, and 10-15 pounds heavier. Clinton Portis de-cleated Kiwanuka before and he again would be roughly 2 inches taller and no more than 10 pounds heavier.

Wilson is afraid or unwilling to square up and goes for the cut block every time and the defenders know it. He would be better served to just take his beating every time and get ran over by the rusher, at least that would take some forward momentum off the rusher...

The fumbles can, and IMO will be corrected. The pass blocking is terrifying. I'm surprised a second year player blocks like such a pansy. I don't know how they can let him protect Eli, he may as well be used like Westbrook used to and go out on a pass route every single time.

And he was no bigger than Wilson. He should be doing a lot at this point in his career.

Regardless, it seems kind of silly to bring in a vet now when people keep saying how "complex" the system is. You have to give Wilson some more time. Maybe he needs better coaching?

...Surely you jest. If not, then I give up.

I'm just as concerned about Wilson's performance as everyone else here..

But pass blocking is not just about effort and attitude - though those are pretty darn important attributes.

But as you said, it's also about technique. And just as importantly, it's about knowing the scheme and reading the play correctly. That comes with more reps and more experience.

Calling Wilson as a "pansy" because he's a crap pass blocker is unfair. Bradsahw wasn't good at pass protection at first either. These are growing pains. He'll learn and get better.

He was rusty last night. Guy hasn't hardly practiced at all this year.

And I don't really know what to say with regards to your comment about his play last season.

Wilson has a solid all round game on sunday.

but stocky.He was made to hand out beatings,or drag the occasional defensive lineman in the Superbowl.

I don't know if you can say that about Wilson,regardless of any article that comes out in the press.

was one of the best blocking backs I remember watching.

typically adjust to the pro game sooner than other positions. Wilson wasn't trusted much last year, the coach speak was 'he's still learning' during preseason, and he got yanked in favor of a RB who's never sniffed the field. What does that tell you about what the coaches think of him? It tells me that the coaches are thinking they might have made a mistake in drafting him in round 1.

I don't pretend to be a talent evaluator, but I don't get any sort of warm fuzzy about Wilson being a star.

I do not see Wilson as an every down back. Game breaker yes, a dependable every down back no. A goal line back no. A change of pace of back yes. I don't think you can hitch your wagon to this guy to make the tough yardage.

I don't think it is unfair at all. The way he is "trying" to block is a terrible technique, he isn't even going for their knees, he is lowering his head and diving at the rusher's ankles. And he tries that pretty much exclusively. So either he is being taught an awful technique or he is consciously deciding to do what he knows is not the proper technique and risk his quarterback's health instead of squaring up and at least attempting block correctly.

I think JR gambled by not having any real experienced backs.

Wilson should have been a 1a where he could help on ST.
Instead with Brown gone his role is way way to high being the all purpose back with nobody to spot or help out.

I think he'd and the Giants are better if he could be supplemented by an experienced back for short yards/blocking.
I think he is basically going from 0-60 and it's too much.

Giants are missing Brown, who can run between the tackles and push the pile (short yardage) even with this porous OL.

Wilson lacks the protecting (ball and picking up blocks) Scott just doesn't seem to the ability, esp with this OOL playing poorly (for the most part).

If the Giants thought so little of Wilson, they would not have cut Bradshaw, their leading rusher and only experienced RB, and signed....well, exactly no one to replace him.

The Giants believe in Wilson. It's way too early to give up on this kid.

some perspective and sort of support for Wilson. Would like to see an RB signing though.

They both deserve another shot. Now they have some real game tape to analyze with Scott, and Wilson is a home run threat whenevers he's on the field

every running back misses blocks occasionlly. I remeber Eli ripped Bradshaw for missing a block in New Orleans a few years ago. It's magnified with Wilson because he's an untested 2nd year guy who has had issues with it in practice. If he doens't improve with playing time, then the Gaints we'll need to move on. In regards to Tiki's first few years, I remember people claimoring for cutting him and signing Larry Flowers. I think Wilson will get it with time. On the goal line play, I thought the half assed play action was pathetic - why don't we really try to sell it?

but until the giants figure out how to run block you could bring AP in here and he would suck. Wilson is a fast, elusive kid. Discarding him this early is a mistake.

But this is a quantom leap from a change of pace/ST back to now being the full time, all purpose back.

Too much.
He needs a complement to help him on 3rd downs, limit his carries to 15-20.
Asking him to be a 20+ all purpose down back, way way to much.

second guessing, but there were a lot of people who felt Wilson, Brown, and Cox (with or without Scott) was a risky RB group.

I think they need a veteran and I thought they did after the 53-man roster was announced and Brown was not yet on IR, and once he went on IR I thought it was sure a veteran RB would be signed. If it's one who can fill the 3rd down back role (good blocker, good hands) too, then great, but there has to be another option.

money is the reason one wasn't here before last nights game.

until he shows he can hold onto the football. Outside of the nightmare screen, Scott was showing me more than I expected. I think that both have some value and its too early to give up on them, however, the lack of a dependable running game is going to change our offensive strategy. I just hope the OL can step up and prevent Eli from getting killed. Unfortunately, two of the weapons for slowing a pass rush - screens and draws, now play into a weakness.

He is best as a change of pace 10-15 carries ST back NOT in the Adrian Peterson role of being a full time 3 down back.

We cant lose the kid mentally right now, and he looked lost last night. We have to find a way to get him some confidence early against the Broncos, whether that's him returning kicks which he seems like he loves to do, or just figuring what his favorite plays are and pound them. But I think they need to show him that they are with him and behind him.

I DO however think a Vet is needed this week. I am all for BJ if hes healthy and in shape.

with Wilson and Scott as well.

I really think Wilson will be fine once he settles in. And we've already committed to Wilson this season. Nothing good is going to come from completely changing direction 1 game into the season.

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I just don't see him as the every down back. His blocking, of lack of, concerns me as much as his fumbling. He is just so explosive that you have to stick with him but he has to WANT to block better. Brown's injury is a killer and that's not saying he's so great but he is a good short yardage runner and will be missed.I think the Giants sign Dwyer tomorrow. I'd be very surprised if we don't add a runner.

I really haven't seen what Wilson can do. The guy had one shining moment last year and it was against the most dysfunctional defense in NFL history, the Saints.

Wilson hasn't shown me anymore than George Adams did in the early to mid 80s. As of now, he's a fast guy that can't play football on a consistent level. He's a coach killer until proven otherwise.

There's a reason why I was praying for Andre Brown to stay healthy. He's the best RB on this team by a very very wide margin. Wilson is shite until he proves me wrong. Can't block. Can't run with any consistency and is an emotional wreck when he fumbles. Lovely. Just what this team needs.

When Wilson actually shows legit talent in a real game against a legit team, I'll acknowledge that he has #1 RB ability. Until then, he's a backup scat back type that should be playing special teams.

Rbs can block. Wilson does not. To be successful you have to attack the defender. The defender will usually get blocked off the snap by an ol and then released before the ol goes to the next level or it will be one on one blitz pickup. When the defender gets chipped the rb can already be moving to make the hit on someone who is off balance or stationary.

If hes taking someone one on one, the outmost lineman will usually take the outmost pass rusher. This will create a narrow lane. If the rb attacks the gap the defender will have nowhere to go side to side and should get blown up.

When the rb sits in the pocket the defender will build speed and can go around or through you. Wilson plays scared and sits back waiting for the contact to come to him and lays down at their ankles. He doesnt have the intensity to be an everydown back. Bradshaw and jacobs played intense, you can see wilsons lack of confidence and his passiveness. He has done nothing to prove he is starting rb in this league.

Wilson can be a 3rd down change of pace back right now but until he changes his attitude all the speed in the world wont save him

Brown will be back this year. There is no guarantee if he does he will stay healthy. Wilson could also get hurt. A vet like mcgahee is worth the roster spot

was a blown option play to Wilson, because he failed to pick up the blitzer while he was rolling out. Eli was forced to leave the pocket and was passed the LOS so he had to run for it. Wilson stood there watching Eli run, LOL he just stood there. At least get out in front and try to block for your QB at that point. You just don't become a spectator.

Is it possible to upload that Eli run. In the game review, please take a close look at that play. It demonstrates he has a long way to go with instinct of the position. Of course, no one is expecting him to be perfect but there is a difference in making a mistake and recovering because the action is still going on vs. lacking instinct at the position.

is what he is. Tiki had a different background and different coaching culture in college.

but he is NOT ready for prime time. And I don't feel like torpedoing a season while we get this kid his on the job training. Too much is at stake. Fuck his 50 yard runs against the Saints. We need a real man at RB. A guy that can get 3.8 yards every time he touches the ball and won't suffer an emotional fucking breakdown after a fumble. JFC...only the fucking Giants..

ONe day Wilson may be a CJ2K type...maybe even better but he's a long way off as of now. Why did Brown have to get hurt....FUCK!

there but the fact that he continues to go low and frankly sucks at it and he never stands there and takes the blitzed head on. Even if he gets plowed over that would be a step in the right direction.

I am treating the RB situation like it's a crisis. I panic. I do whatever it takes to get someone in here who can play the position at a professional level. I think Scott is ok as the #2-3 guy but this team needs a legit RB. NY doesn't even need to run the ball for 150 yards a game...but they need a guy in here that can run for 5 yards once in a while.

I'd trade, steal, or cheat my way to get a RB in here. And now.

If we fail to make the playoffs because of a crisis at RB that would just be an absolute embarrassment. Fix it. Now.

Scott: Unless you have seen that play in practice dozens of time, there is no way to know that he turned late. It is just as likely that Eli threw early.

Wilson: It is not like those are whimpy blow on you type fumbles. Giants might help him out and slow down the blitz stuff by having him occasionally move like he is picking up the blitz and just have Manning buy one step and dump it off to him. This guy should scare the crap out of opponents when he has the ball and space before first possible contact.

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a veteran RB who can block and fill the 3rd down back role.

I blame Wilson's problems on the coaches who refused to give him game time last year when Bradshaw could have helped him more. Now we are forced to deal with his growing pains this year with no veteran backs in place to mentor him. As far as I'm concerned Wilson will be fine once he gets more games under his belt and gains some much needed NFL experience. But there is no doubt there will continue to be growing pains with him for now.

Scott on the other hand has never shown me a single thing to make me believe he can be a good RB in the NFL. I have no problem at all with cutting him for a veteran free agent. In fact, it's what I'd like to see happen if a suitable veteran can be found.

Sounds like number 27 to me

First by having Brown playing in a meaningless 4th pre-season game instead of letting Scott, Torrain and Cox play. Then compound that by not having a veteran player on the roster to compliment a player with known Pass-pro issues and some fumbling.

Stupidity all around. That being said, you need to find a veteran to take some carries, be a 3rd down back, and show these guys how to pass protect. Fumbling is something that can be cured, if Wilson does not lose confidence..

It was a complete nightmare game, Coughlin, Gilbride, OL, TE's, RB's and Eli blew that game! Eli was responsible for all 3 INT's, don't even try to put that INT on Scott. He surely couldn't run the ball due to the OL play as well as the Dallas D. Tiki fumbled twice in a game and look at what he went on and did. It is clear Coughlin is in panic mode and they clearly are going to bring a RB in for better or worse. Eli had poor protection from the OL and DW left him out to dry. The OL didn't open holes, finish blocks and where were the OL mbrs driving DW forward and helping him get down when the 3-4 cowboys basically held him up while they clawed at the ball. What ever happened to the whistle when forward progress has been stopped! Look for a huge bounce back next monday night. JMHO.

..definitely. We've seen TC transform a talented back with fumble-itis before. Tiki was awful with ball protection at one point. The key is the player has to have the want to. I believe DW wants to succeed and has the work ethic to get where he needs to be.

Scott is another scenario. I agree he has some athletic tools. The issue for me is we're inexperienced starting Wilson. With Scott ss his running mate we become dangerously so. I doubt he would have even made this roster if Brown stays healthy. If one of the backs they are trying out can bring some leadership and the ability to contribute I'd prefer to go in that direction.

...slightly off topic. It was a mistake to push Hynoski into the week 1 lineup. He may have passed his physical but he clearly didn't get enough reps to be effective in the game. He wasn't ready. That is entirely on the coaching staff. They would have been better served to slow him down a week and play Bear. against Dallas.

gets things done.

Errr...Scott admitted the final int was on him.

but goddam Wilson should be on a half inch leash and I would bring in a vet.

We are in crisis mode at RB and that is why a parade of RBs are being looked at. These are not ST players. These are guys to play from the LOS that they are bringing in to workout.

I don't think there is FA that will turn the running game around like Otis Anderson did so long ago.

Wilson has awesome skills, he just needs experience and to get stronger. Tiki said getting his upper body stronger is what helped him.

the playoffs on TV without the Giants in them. We need a real RB now.

Rough day at work yesterday, got tied up.

bc, I had met AB a few years ago and we were literally the same size, so I was informing via frame of reference. I was a pretty good tailback back in the day!

I'd hoped we'd retain AB for another year, but his feet were really worrying the team from what I'd heard.

For leadership, experience... in film room and on the sidelines between drives. Pretty sure Wilson's confidence is totally shot right now.

And of course, you need the vet out there in key situations.

is because according to Tom, he didn't look good.

How does a player get ready for the season by not playing? You can't put every player in bubble wrap just because you're afraid of guys going down. What good would Brown be as a backup in real games if he were unprepared to play?

If you fall, you need to get back on the horse. If you bench Wilson, you run the risk of him losing any confidence he has in himself.

I think whoever the new RB is will be for insurance as if you think about it, who did the Giants have to turn to after Wilson fumbled? Just Scott because Cox isn't ready yet to take snaps on offense.

If I'm TC, I tell Wilson, "Look, I'm giving you another chance here. If yoiu screw up, you're toast." Put it all on the young man's shoulders and hope that he thinks, "Ok coach, I'm not going to let you down this time."

in the post game interviews - both kids took the mistakes to heart - to the brink of tears and then some