Jerry Reese needs some blame

He's the best gm in football and its not even close

Then something must be wrong with the coaching.

His neglect of the RB position after Bradshaw left, and then again after Brown got hurt, was inexcusable.

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about "by far". Ozzie Newsome is pretty good.

"The team has weaknesses and Reese is responsible for everything, so he's responsible for those weaknesses, too." then I guess I have to say "Yeah, sure, absolutely."

But what team has no weaknesses?

but I suspect that there are a few others equally deserving of being called the best.

The problem is we missed on too many mid-round draft picks lately.

too, albeit that's diff with t2/ross there

He didn't neglect the RB position after Bradshaw left (actually, Bradshaw was let go). Reese had in place a 2nd year, former 1st round draft pick and also the 2nd leading rusher from last year. That was what he was building this year's RB corps upon.

And it's too soon to say he neglected the RB position after Brown's injury because we don't know that his plans are complete. Being hamstrung by the salary cap, there are games that must be played, including the waiting game until after the week 1 guarantee to players' salary passes. We will see what Reese, along with Coughlin, decides to do about bringing in a veteran RB or sticking with what we have.

but not the best and probably not that close.

However, I really think they though that Wilson would be a lot better than what he has shown so far.

Ozzie Newsome and Ted Thompson would have something to say about Jerry Reese being the best "by far."

I think Ozzie Newsome is the best. Regardless, we have minimal depth at OL, RB and LB. Safety we had depth but then had guys get suspended and hurt.

Yes all teams ahve weaknesses, I am not saying Jerry has to be perfect, but we are thin is soooooo many areas. I am simply saying we always blame the HC, OC, DC etc. I am blaming the GM for giving these coaches little depth to work with.

And after Brown got hurt, they needed a "big," short yardage back. 0 for 2 so far.

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in the passing game and OL. Based on last night's returns, the passing game was earning their cap #s, the OL was not.

Once you make the call to go to the $20 million level at QB, you have to build your team around it. We need good WRs and we have them. But you can't be expensive everywhere and a couple of big contracts tied to under-performing players can knock everything else out of alignment.

Certainly Reese is far from perfect - there are obvious holes on the roster and he's made some mistakes. But you have to consider the constraints and the tradeoffs that any GM makes. Resources are not infinite.

inexperienced RBs.

In 2007 he brought in Droughns and similarly needed a vet this season.

He didn't show Wilson how to stop fumbling the ball and how can Reese not improve his pass protection?! And what was he doing having Brown go in the last game? And why didn't he put in that rookie Cox?...er wait... not his job you say? Who cares he gets some blame too!

when many on this sight said it was a mistake. What kind of shape would this team be in without Justin Pugh right now???

They're both 0-1, right? And the lack of depth in Baltimore at TE, OL, WR and DB? Disgraceful. Clearly, Reese and Newsome should both be digging ditches.

Just to address the OP: Why does Jerry Reese need some blame? How would he use it if the Maras gave it to him? How would it make the Giants a better team? I think what you mean is, you need to blame Jerry Reese. That's fine; he's the boss, and the buck stops with him (or John Mara). But if you're going to blame him for every loss and every hole in the roster, what's up with attributing the SB XLII title to Ernie Accorsi?

Now I think he's just overrated.

He's kinda heading in the wrong direction.

and Coughlin is a fine coach

biggest knock on Jerry this year is keeping Snee but that probably had more to do with politics than personel

a top five GM who has won two SBs in a little more than five years. He warrants a lot of respect. Has he made mistakes? You bet. Here are a few: Sintim, Barden, Beckum, Austin, Jernigan, and not having any credible LBs. But he's also given us a lot of great players, and a lot of GMs have done a lot worse. Most fans of most other teams would be thrilled to have Reeese as their GM.

since you brought it up, is there any more of an egregious error than Newsome deciding not to re-sign a still quite viable Boldin to a reasonable contract? THAT was stupid, but because I respect ON's overall body of work a good deal, I didn't harp on it all that much. But, it was really an incompetent decision imv

and what he has done at RB has been great for years

Agree that LB spot has been awful and the type of OL player that may be smart/reliable etc. but isn't the type of mauler that wins one on one battles (i.e. the kind that allow you to win on 3rd and 1).

But again, great GM.

who is obviously a very good GM made a big mistake, at least for this year. He now has a $20 million QB, but not a guy who can carry an offense with marginal receivers (there aren't many of those guys). He's given the QB nothing to throw to this year and their passing game is probably going to be ineffective, or average-ish at best.

If you've got $20 million at QB, unless you're racking up lots of cap-wins with cheap guys, you really need a good passing game that's among the strongest parts of the team. It's not going to happen in Baltimore this year.

Give me 1 team in the NFL with OL depth - it does not exist in this league.

You can't address everything in a salary cap era. Again with the LB's, who is this long list of LB we keep passing on in the draft or FA that is tearing the league up.

Reese, Newsome, Thompson and Colbert are all at the top - there is no best, but a group of 4 or 5 who are clearly better than others

but he isn't the godlike figure some here make him out to be. We've got a franchise QB, and a team that is basically middle of the road.

Like McGhee or as in 07 Droughns.

He instead banked on Wilson making a quantom leap, Brown being healthy, and two scrubs.

asking, "What stud LBs have been available to us that Reese has passed on?"

If they were at full strength, it was a solid unit. 4 deep at the safety with Hill and 4 deep at the corners with Thomas and Ross.

The issue is that Reese prioritizes WR/RB/CB/DL over all other positions. So that will leave gaps at OL/LB/TE, which he tries to fill with FA or projects. It hasn't worked in recent years, and the gaps have become exaggerated.

is that big ticket free agent signings have not worked out that well, especially Baas. Rolle has but overall his record in that area is not stellar.

But other than that, he is excellent.

when able to play at or near 100%, I think Canty and Boley signings were good ones, even if the market dictated that they be overpaid

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If there was a list to do that I would - outside of Bowman who is there.

The LB of past that so many on BBI wanted as FA such as Lofton, Ryans, Tulloch have done nothing

he will sign a vet back now that they do not have to pay the entire year salary if they decide to cut him one Brown comes back.Was it a 1 game gamble ?Probably ...but if we had pulled the game out last night no one would be so quick to blame Jerry for anything

but let's not call him the best gm in football. Reese has NEVER picked a Head Coach and has NEVER has to worry about drafting a Franchise QB.

not has

seeming fixation with drafting not-ready-for-backup-duty QB projects in ever-higher rounds that wind up getting cut, and quickly. andre woodson (6th), rhett bomahr (5th), and ryan nassib (4th). why not just find a solid vet backup ala kyle orton and call it a day on that position? and that is in addition to the awful whiffs of sintim, kehl, dillard, and various others mentioned earlier.

i also concur that he seems to be going in the wrong direction as of late. its pretty clear this years team is far weaker than the 2007-2012 versions, and there were some awful years interspersed in that time frame as well (cc brown, aaron rouse, bill sheridan).

and reese currently has so much money tied up in the baas-snee contracts it will likely be difficult to retain solid core guys like nicks and joseph. so it's not just whiffing too often in the drafts, it's also questionable allocation of cap dollars. i've been one of snee's biggest fans, but 11 million dollars for a right guard is just awful, especially when that player appears to clearly be the worst of the 5 starting OL.

over talent at this age. Then whoever made that call needs to be held accountable, that would be inexcusable. I personally think Snee has some left in the tank. I just next year he needs to restructure or get cut.

has he been bad? Not even close. But I don't think he's proven he deserves to be considered in the same group as the elite team builders either.

was a whiff. That's with the benefit of hindsight of course....but true nonetheless.

Banking on health from A. Brown is very clearly a gamble. Nobody, including Reese, is surprised that he got banged up again. And it was very clear the moment he went down that the only legitimate option was to give Wilson the whole load. I just think that's a very poor decision.

I'd have to go back and look at who was out there this summer to give a fully informed critique....but was there really nobody who could come in and provide more than Darell Scott/Ryan Torrain?

bailed Reese out, with some of the vet signings. Boothe literally has saved the OL from being a bigger tire fire then it is currently.

signings were great ones. the giants won their 2nd SB in the manning era in large part because of their contributions. reese rightly parted ways when health and cost issues caught up to them. he hasn't done the same with baas-snee-rolle who collectively take up 25 million in cap space. the question is, why?

i believe had the chad jones draft pick worked out, rolle would not currently be on the team. as for snee and baas, it seems to be a combination of neglecting the OL position in the draft (selecting clint sintim over max ungar, for example) and nepotism (paying the declining right guard 11 million because he's the coaches relative). the nepotism claim is obviously speculative, but by my admittedly layman's eye, snee played particularly poorly last night, as he did most all of last season.

that was better in order to keep him. Who is Diehl's father in law in management.

coughlin's loyalty to aging vets despite their clearly declining level of play is at work there, same as it was with diehl, and bradshaw (who he rode into the ground last season, despite having wilson available as a change of pace back).

i think reese opted not to part with snee despite his prohibitive cap hit because of 1) respect for coughlin and his family, and 2) not investing enough resources into the OL beyond further hamstringing the cap with baas' contract. again, the nepotism angle is speculative on my part. i am not making a definitive claim on the matter.

Spags is a genius who will solve all our problems.

- BBI

the great ozzie newsome has terrible receivers on that team and traded boldin to boot. that doesn't look too smart today. they also have no tight ends due to injuries (sounds familiar to the giants RB situation)

the packers have a terrible offensive line and terrible defense but have the best QB on this planet to make up for their deficiencies. and until this year they have had terrible RBs

You do realize his contract was done when he was 1 of the top G in the league knowing full well there was a chance that the back loaded contract would hurt. In 2008-11 you can make the case he was underpaid.

not infalliable.