We always revere some of the great giants, like Eli, Bavaro, LT, and so on and so forth. But which current or former Giant players are most disliked by our fanbase?
Is it Tiki Barber? Jeremy Lincoln? C.C. Brown?
Oh, and it doesn't mean the player is disliked just because
I learned to eventually like most players if they were someone I wasn't crazy about in the draft or FA. If I had to pick a guy, it'd be Jeremiah Parker. He never really got on the field, but what he did to his child makes him a true piece of shit. Danny Kannell broke the 'bro code, so he's another that I don't like.
He was so bloody horrible. I remember people calling him toast because he got burnt so often.
Corey Widmer. I just could not stand him. He was terrible.
Romen Oben. A huge pylon pretending to be an o-lineman.
Finally. Kevin Booth. There are times when he is great and then there are times he is the second coming of Oben. For me Booth is the Disney land of o-line men. Every play is an adventure.
Maybe it wasn't fair because I'm sure he tried his best...
And he seemed like a good dude.. but I couldn't fucking stand the sight of Matt Dodge.. and it was because I KNEW he was going to cost us a game somehow, someway at some point.. and sure the fuck enough... I don't even need to continue.
And arguing with the "we need to develop a punter" or "he's going to haunt us if we cut him" crowd on BBI didn't help. Or the old "you don't understand how hard punting is!" argument.
He was so bad at what is, relatively speaking, one of the easiest jobs in football. Wish him all the best in retirement or whatever, but man did I hate having him on the Giants.
... was one of the funniest stances I've ever seen people take on a subject in all my years posting here. It was so unrealistic and so obviously never going to happen that I almost couldn't believe more than one person believed it.
Elvis Patterson was called Toast because that's what Parcells called him in his rookie camp as he made the conversion from college standup DE to NFL CB. He became a pretty good CB.
by our fan base because he never lived up to the hype. Dave Brown was another guy who was pretty much reviled by he fans, because of the suckitude. They were both decent guys who just couldn't play.
Yeah, we get it he has said some dumb shit as soon as he annouced his retirement mid-season. but watching some of those screen plays "unfold" or attempting to, makes me kinda miss the guy.
That start he had in 2003, I believe it was, against the Rams (first game of the season), he fell over a couple of times when no one touched him. He was like a human traffic cone. One of the most comical performances I've ever seen.
A guy who's never been in the news or the papers for any bad behavior, an inexpensive player who was also a key cog in a Super Bowl run. THAT's the guy you hate?
Dodge was terrible, but I didn't really hate him. He was completely in over his head & didn't deserve to be out there. That wasn't his fault, but his superiors.
Yeah, you've got this 'fandom' thing all wrong. I'd suggest you start from scratch, try another sport. I hear soccer is big in the rest of the world, go for that.
Anyone Reeves brought in. I never liked Shockey. I liked
Tiki as a player, despise him in retirement. Never liked Tarkenton either. Big mouth whiner, whines his way to a stacked team that Joe fucking Kapp took to the Super Bowl and couldn't win the big one. He couldn't stay in the pocket and march a team down the field when the money was on the table.
Wow, I thought Kevin Boothe was a bizarre choice..
...who didn't get the most out of it, and where injuries weren't the dominant factor. William Joseph is a good example, although he seems to have been a good kid in other respects. Derek Brown is another. Butch Woolfolk. Tyrone Wheatley.
Guys like Ron Dayne, Sinorice Moss and Tim Carter were more the team's fault than the the players'. They had huge holes in their games from day one.
I was never a big Shockey fan, but the guy had passion. He's just dumb as a brick. He and Burress were both Faustian bargains. The team knew the deal with them, and chose to take the bad with the good.
a player like Dave Brown ... who did all that was asked of him but just wasn't good enough ... same as Ron Dayne ... whose college career was made because he was faster that the college defenses he faced ... but we asked him to play his size because he wasn't faster than NFL defenses ... or some other player who was slowed by injuries ...
Save the hate for a Derek Brown or the ilk who looked at their rookie contract as retirement pay ...
2)It had to be excruciating for him to live out his childhood dream of being the starting QB of his favorite team and have things go so horribly wrong.
I know Derek personally as he lives by me and I've coached against him the last few years. He's a class guy, great with the kids and a solid member of this community.
You didn't like his production as a Giant? Fine. You're unhappy with how the draft turned out? Fine.
Hate? Fucking absurd.
Hate Junkin? A guy who was put in an impossible situation and has lived the rest of his life with severe depression and regret from that day in San Fran?
Save your "hate" for guys like LT - a felon, sexual deviant and drug fiend.
I've tried in the past, and it's hopeless. People really blame a guy who came out of retirement THAT WEEK for a botched call and a total team collapse..
According to a lot of Giants fans, the biggest goats in two of the biggest blown leads in NFL history were a long snapper and a punter. Fuckin' Trey Junkin, allowing the Niners to score all those touchdowns.
dropping an easy TD pass that would have iced the game? His head must have been mired in the ice throwing fight that he was having with the niner fans.
1. Jeremy Shockey: I have always hated arrogance and selfishness, but Shockey took it to another level when it came out that he would just run his own routes and do whatever he wanted after the snap. It's that kind of behavior that obstructs our offense and makes Eli look bad.
2. Lomas Brown- not necessarily what he did while on the Giants, but when he admitted that he tanked plays in Detroit so that his QB Scott Mitchell could get knocked out of the game, I lost all respect for a guy who considerably had a great career.
Bastard didn't want the ball when Pisarchik handed it off and caused the fumble a loss and let the damn eagles into the playoffs. Worst thing is he accepts no responsibility for his role and he's a smug bastard about it
I may be in the minority, but I actually like Cruz
and that he would take the heat for it. THe rest is history, but it worked out for the best. Had "the Fumble" not happened,they probably win 8 or 9 games that year, nothing would have changed and the Giants would probably not be the model franchise that they are today.
LT broke his fucking back on the field for the team
... not the person. Re-read the original post, and the question posed. Brown was a terrible player and a disastrous draft choice. I'm sure he's a good guy and all. I'm glad his life has turned out well, and you have every right to defend your friend. Unfortunately, as a Giant, he sucked. First round picks who utterly suck will be disliked by the fans.
The two D. Browns embodied everything that went wrong during the last third of George Young's tenure; Following Mark Bavaro and Phil Simms made them especially easy to dislike as players, though by all accounts they are completely likable off the field.
Might want to reconsider your stance on Joseph BBB
Selfish Ahole that attempted to carve out a post NFL broadcasting career by throwing his coaches and teammates under the bus. Happens to also be a reprehensible human being in his personal life as well. He stood at Wellington Maras bedside vigil yet utterly failed to understand what being a man is really about.
Micks starts what is obviously just a "for-fun" thread where you reveal your secret dislikes that we all have
and than the self-appointed BBI censors come on the thread and denounce posters for their "idiocy" in disliking certain players, obviously missing the point that our "likes" and "dislikes" are often irrational and the purpose of the thread was to have the guilty pleasure of revealing them
As a former player who played with and against NFL guys I suppose I have a very hard time understanding how fans can have such hatred towards guys on their favorite team who are doing their level best to succeed in a very tough occupation.
I used to hear fans at the college level scream some of the nastiest shit imaginable within earshot of my mother and other player's parents - used to drive me nuts.
And oipolloi harping on BBI "censors" is the height of ironic idiocy.
for their playing time. Closest I'd guess would be Ron Dayne, who I felt always just played soft. I appreciate the guys who don't succeed provided I think they're trying their best. It's why (say today) I'm not down on Wilson. I know he's all effort, and he's not going to fumble every week. Folks seem to forget he had exactly one fumble all year last year.
When he first arrived, the press on him was very sympathetic. Maybe that was fluff, or maybe things went south for him later. In any case, I was thinking mostly of how I viewed the players while they were here. In Joseph's case, it was mostly: "Seems like a decent kid. I really shouldn't dislike him so much just because he stinks."
Another Giant who generated a lot of hostility was Umenyiora.
1) Largely one-dimensional player who - either by design or inclination - didn't show much interest in the dirty work of defending the run (a stark contrast to his supposed role model, Strahan).
2) Incessant whining about a contract that gave him security against injury, although that contract worked out much better for him than it did for the team, since he lost one season to injury and was severely impaired during at least two others.
You know who I loathed? Just for his one stupid mistake was Shaun Williams after that penalty that off set the 15 yard penalty SF had. We could've had another 15 yards at the end of the game but he pushed someone like a moron to negate the call against the 49ers.
Corey Widmer. I just could not stand him. He was terrible.
Romen Oben. A huge pylon pretending to be an o-lineman.
Finally. Kevin Booth. There are times when he is great and then there are times he is the second coming of Oben. For me Booth is the Disney land of o-line men. Every play is an adventure.
He was so bad at what is, relatively speaking, one of the easiest jobs in football. Wish him all the best in retirement or whatever, but man did I hate having him on the Giants.
Tyrone Wheatley
Carlton Bailey
Shawn Williams
Tito Wooten
Christian Peter
Scott Gragg
Greg Bishop
Dave Brown
Percy Ellworth for that awesome personal foul.
Some of you guys need to buy a dictionary.
CC Brown
Mind blown.
But one of the most ineffective players -- in recent memory -- who has worn the Blue IS Michael Johnson.
Dodge was terrible, but I didn't really hate him. He was completely in over his head & didn't deserve to be out there. That wasn't his fault, but his superiors.
Guys like Ron Dayne, Sinorice Moss and Tim Carter were more the team's fault than the the players'. They had huge holes in their games from day one.
I was never a big Shockey fan, but the guy had passion. He's just dumb as a brick. He and Burress were both Faustian bargains. The team knew the deal with them, and chose to take the bad with the good.
Matt Dodge
Dave Brown
CC Brown
Ron Dayne
Cedric Jones
William Joseph
Save the hate for a Derek Brown or the ilk who looked at their rookie contract as retirement pay ...
Mike Horan
Danny Kanell
Cedric Jones
2)It had to be excruciating for him to live out his childhood dream of being the starting QB of his favorite team and have things go so horribly wrong.
Surprised no one said Diehl, lol.
You didn't like his production as a Giant? Fine. You're unhappy with how the draft turned out? Fine.
Hate? Fucking absurd.
Hate Junkin? A guy who was put in an impossible situation and has lived the rest of his life with severe depression and regret from that day in San Fran?
Save your "hate" for guys like LT - a felon, sexual deviant and drug fiend.
1. Jeremy Shockey: I have always hated arrogance and selfishness, but Shockey took it to another level when it came out that he would just run his own routes and do whatever he wanted after the snap. It's that kind of behavior that obstructs our offense and makes Eli look bad.
2. Lomas Brown- not necessarily what he did while on the Giants, but when he admitted that he tanked plays in Detroit so that his QB Scott Mitchell could get knocked out of the game, I lost all respect for a guy who considerably had a great career.
The two D. Browns embodied everything that went wrong during the last third of George Young's tenure; Following Mark Bavaro and Phil Simms made them especially easy to dislike as players, though by all accounts they are completely likable off the field.
and than the self-appointed BBI censors come on the thread and denounce posters for their "idiocy" in disliking certain players, obviously missing the point that our "likes" and "dislikes" are often irrational and the purpose of the thread was to have the guilty pleasure of revealing them
Shockey and his name isn't mentioned.
As a former player who played with and against NFL guys I suppose I have a very hard time understanding how fans can have such hatred towards guys on their favorite team who are doing their level best to succeed in a very tough occupation.
I used to hear fans at the college level scream some of the nastiest shit imaginable within earshot of my mother and other player's parents - used to drive me nuts.
And oipolloi harping on BBI "censors" is the height of ironic idiocy.
1) Largely one-dimensional player who - either by design or inclination - didn't show much interest in the dirty work of defending the run (a stark contrast to his supposed role model, Strahan).
2) Incessant whining about a contract that gave him security against injury, although that contract worked out much better for him than it did for the team, since he lost one season to injury and was severely impaired during at least two others.
lol
You know who I loathed? Just for his one stupid mistake was Shaun Williams after that penalty that off set the 15 yard penalty SF had. We could've had another 15 yards at the end of the game but he pushed someone like a moron to negate the call against the 49ers.