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Dan Connor has been placed on the IR #nyg
where do we go from here at MLB? We only had Herzlich? No one else?
is UFA , rehabbed from achillies last season. Kick the tires?
His cap number is $3,125,000.
pickings are slim which is why jerry went the route he went. Dan Connor reminds me of nick johnson of the yanks. Just cant stay healthy ever.
What's the net savings if we cut him prior to the restructure? Sorry to make you do extra work!
Atlanta police station and pleaded guilty to child abuse. Seems very likely that the Giants cut him over that.
Some say that his play fell off badly last year. Maybe so, although I didn't notice it. He played in every game, had his usual number of tackles along with three picks. He was better than any other LB we had on the roster.
Anyway, there is no chance the Giants bring him back. Bengals worked him out a few days ago but apparently nothing came of it.
Larry Grant (suspended three more games)
Demorrio Williams (WLB in 4-3/ILB in 3-4)
Omar Gaither (WLB in 4-3)
Mike Peterson (SLB)
Kenny Onatolu (OLB in 4-3)
Greg Lloyd Link
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where he asked "do you remember who the Lbs were from the first Super Bowl Team". Hubris.
Conner was not a solution. The Giants are overdue for getting lucky finding a LB who can play, and maybe Bradford will be that guy.
Here's the 411 prior to Diehl's restrcture:
Cap Savings - $6,903,125
Dead Money - $2,078,125
Cap Savings - $4,825,000
This is it after:
Cap Savings - $3,125,000
Dead Money - $2,325,000
Cap Savings - $800,000
he's not very good, but he's not as bad as Herzlich.
Not great but better than what we have.
and Connor stayed healthy the entire season last year in dallas. That was an upgrade. It's bad luck.
In 2008, picking last in first and second round they plucked up Kenny Phillips and Terrell Thomas. Two should-have-been future Pro-Bowlers.
Reunion with Dillard! Haha
At LB, our starters would be backups on a lot of other teams. Our backups would not play on other teams. We seem to be giving Reese a pass since 2007 because he had a nice draft that year?
Can someone please explain "In Reese we trust"? Where does all of this trust come from?
Give him a call... Still better than Herz
year ending IR. Now, that's some supreme faking. Talk about taking one for the team. All just to show JJ up.
for faking it and ending up on IR?
Diehl wasn't restructured. He was given a pay cut.
Ever heard of "sarcasm?" New Yorkers are purportedly big on it. :)
2 SB titles aren't enough proof for you? Sheesh...
Hate the play. Watching the Cowboys taps of him on Game Rewind was just plain ugly.
Oddly, a lot of it really does seem to be mental with him - he plays like a spaz (and not in a good way). Couple that with not being extremely athletic and it's not the best combination.
season ended was to cut Boley and Blackburn (although Boley might have been cut because of pleading guilty to child abuse). They are both better than what we have now.
Blackburn not the big run-stuffing hulk you look for at MLB, but maybe that not so important with the defensive tackles we added.
Chase was smart and had a nose for the ball. It would probably surprise a lot of people to hear that in 2012 he led the Giants in total tackles, had one interception and five forced fumbles.
two are not enough. You have to ask yourself what more this team could have done if we managed the personnel better. If our O-line has not been this bad for the past 4 years. If we had Linebackers that were legit starters. Maybe we would have never missed the playoffs since 2007 and possibly won another title.
You can feel satisfied if you want. I dont...i want more
and grovel to Gettelman to trade our 1st and 2nd pick this year, plus our 1st and 2nd next year for Chase Blackburn.
We are cursed at the MLB position
We are cursed at the MLB position
As others have said, he may not have been Harry Carson, but he had a nose for the ball and made plays. I have been completely unimpressed by Connor. J-A-G. Herzlich is even worse.
This situation highlights the stupidity of the Nassib move. Giving up an extra pick, wasting a 4th rounder on a position that at this time did not need to be addressed. Had they stood pat, Khaseem Greene (BBI fave), Sean Porter and Gerald Hodges were all available. The 6th rounder they gave up could have landed Vince Williams, who made the Steelers.
What exactly had distinguished Hodges, Porter or Greene as being clear NFL upgrades at MLB
but when we went into 2012 with him as a starter, we saw right away that he cannot play full time.
and cover ok. I don't think he has much experience at MLB though.
In Connor, Herzlich, Rivers et al we know what we have: Mediocrity at best, incompetence at worst.
I don't pretend to know what kind of pros they might become. I do know that QB was not a pressing need and LB was. Williams (6th rounder)actually made the Steelers. Greene has received very favorable reviews thus far with the Bears. Porter made the Bengals but hurt his shoulder and was IR'd. Hodges made the Vikings. So, every one of the 4 made his respective team, each of whom has better LBs than the Giants do. Nassib has been unimpressive, and if Eli ever went down the season would be over anyway. 2 wasted picks to get a player who they pray won't have to play.
Connor is an upgrade over Chase, but staying healthy has been one of his issues in the NFL. Get well, DC.
gig, even on the Giants in their current state.
long term solution. One HOFer named Harry Carson was a 4th rounder.
knew his position, but unspectacular, which is the best of what we had.
He's a starter on any team that doesn't have a pro-bowl guy in front of him. His failing has always been his health, and we shouldn't have relied on him.
|when we went into 2012 with him as a starter, we saw right away that he cannot play full time.
I didn't think that Blackburn was going to find another NFL job, But the Panthers, who are strong at LB, signed him as a reserve and he was active for their first game.
I think he is being a little underrated by some, but I don't watch all the coaches' film. And who thought they would not draft or sign an upgrade for the position?
He's okay as a spot player.
If blackburn were here, he'd be a starter. In carolina, he's just part of the group.
We've seen that movie already. He's great on special teams, he's a good team guy, but asking him to play that much is putting him in an unfair situation.
Yes, but teams tend to make decisions based on the percentages, and a hoping a 4th rounder will win a starting MIKE gig is a significant gamble.
You're viewing this through your own prism, too. Perhaps a touch of bias involved.
this is as disasterous as it seems. I liked Connor, thought he would do a decent job. But i don't think the drop off between him and Herzlich is that much.
That being said, I think they go w/ the 5 DB set w/ Mundy, Rolle, TT, Ross (Or Prince if available) & Webster more often than not, especially against a pass heavy offense.
as a rookie. However, I do think it makes more sense to keep a guy like Blackburn who knows the D and whose strengths and weaknesses are known as your stop gap rather than sign a Connor type. Blackburn could then help groom a Green or some other young player.
The team viewed Connor as a significant upgrade, a player they've liked since college. They viewed him as a safe get, and he was improving weekly. Unfortunately, once again he's dinged.