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pjcas18 : 9/12/2013 5:24 pm
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Dan Connor has been placed on the IR #nyg


that sucks
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sooo  
tikisbarber : 9/12/2013 8:16 pm : link
where do we go from here at MLB? We only had Herzlich? No one else?
chris cogong  
viggie : 9/12/2013 8:18 pm : link
is UFA , rehabbed from achillies last season. Kick the tires?
Cogong was pretty horrible  
tikisbarber : 9/12/2013 8:19 pm : link
for the Eagles.
Gocong*  
tikisbarber : 9/12/2013 8:19 pm : link
him too.
David - If the Giants were to cut Diehl, the cap savings would be 800K  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 8:25 pm : link
His cap number is $3,125,000.
I looked the unsigned vet free agents  
viggie : 9/12/2013 8:26 pm : link
pickings are slim which is why jerry went the route he went. Dan Connor reminds me of nick johnson of the yanks. Just cant stay healthy ever.
Thanks Optimus!  
David in LA : 9/12/2013 8:28 pm : link
What's the net savings if we cut him prior to the restructure? Sorry to make you do extra work!
Three days after the Giants cut Boley, he turned himself in at an  
Reese's Pieces : 9/12/2013 8:31 pm : link
Atlanta police station and pleaded guilty to child abuse. Seems very likely that the Giants cut him over that.

Some say that his play fell off badly last year. Maybe so, although I didn't notice it. He played in every game, had his usual number of tackles along with three picks. He was better than any other LB we had on the roster.

Anyway, there is no chance the Giants bring him back. Bengals worked him out a few days ago but apparently nothing came of it.
Available Inside LBers  
Johnm/Dallas : 9/12/2013 8:38 pm : link
Inside Linebacker
Takeo Spikes
Bradie James
Larry Grant (suspended three more games)
Barrett Ruud
Demorrio Williams (WLB in 4-3/ILB in 3-4)
Kirk Morrison
Zac Diles
Gary Guyton
Omar Gaither (WLB in 4-3)
Niko Koutouvides
Tavares Gooden
Mike Peterson (SLB)
Jamar Chaney
Tim Shaw
Brandon Siler
A.J. Edds
Brendon Ayanbadejo
Ricky Brown
Keyaron Fox
Travis Goethel
Tyrone McKenzie
Leon Williams
Kenny Onatolu (OLB in 4-3)
Brandon Johnson
Doug Hogue
L.J. Fort
D.J. Smith
Stevenson Sylvester
Ryan Rau
Josh Hull
Phillip Dillard
Greg Lloyd
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Ruud?  
phil fromphilly : 9/12/2013 8:41 pm : link
Is he healthy?
Reese should've never given that ESPN interview  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/12/2013 8:53 pm : link
where he asked "do you remember who the Lbs were from the first Super Bowl Team". Hubris.
I'm oddly optimistic  
oldutican : 9/12/2013 9:11 pm : link
Conner was not a solution. The Giants are overdue for getting lucky finding a LB who can play, and maybe Bradford will be that guy.
Sall good David  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 9:12 pm : link
Here's the 411 prior to Diehl's restrcture:

Cap Savings - $6,903,125
Dead Money - $2,078,125
Cap Savings - $4,825,000


This is it after:

Cap Savings - $3,125,000
Dead Money - $2,325,000
Cap Savings - $800,000
this blows  
chris r : 9/12/2013 9:13 pm : link
he's not very good, but he's not as bad as Herzlich.
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad - That interview did cross my mind  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 9:14 pm : link
.
I sure wish we had Chase Blackburn still.  
yatqb : 9/12/2013 9:16 pm : link
Not great but better than what we have.
Blackburn wasn't better than Connor....  
Torrag : 9/12/2013 9:25 pm : link
and Connor stayed healthy the entire season last year in dallas. That was an upgrade. It's bad luck.
WE could have had Manti....  
Doomster : 9/12/2013 10:00 pm : link
JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blackburn was better than Herzlich  
chris r : 9/12/2013 10:01 pm : link
though.
Give the front office a little more credit for drafting.  
Reese's Pieces : 9/12/2013 10:11 pm : link
In 2008, picking last in first and second round they plucked up Kenny Phillips and Terrell Thomas. Two should-have-been future Pro-Bowlers.
We worked out Gooden and Edds.  
Anakim : 9/12/2013 10:17 pm : link
Reunion with Dillard! Haha
This is our depth coming to bite us on the ass again...  
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 9/12/2013 10:20 pm : link
At LB, our starters would be backups on a lot of other teams. Our backups would not play on other teams. We seem to be giving Reese a pass since 2007 because he had a nice draft that year?

Can someone please explain "In Reese we trust"? Where does all of this trust come from?
Urlacher  
spike : 9/12/2013 10:23 pm : link
Give him a call... Still better than Herz
Man, Conner faked himself onto  
Scrub : 9/12/2013 10:42 pm : link
year ending IR. Now, that's some supreme faking. Talk about taking one for the team. All just to show JJ up.
Dan Connor should get an Oscar  
David in LA : 9/12/2013 10:46 pm : link
for faking it and ending up on IR?
P.S. David  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 10:53 pm : link
Diehl wasn't restructured. He was given a pay cut.
David in LA  
Dylan fan : 9/12/2013 10:55 pm : link
Ever heard of "sarcasm?" New Yorkers are purportedly big on it. :)
EricJ  
speedywheels : 9/12/2013 11:32 pm : link
2 SB titles aren't enough proof for you? Sheesh...
Love the heart of Herzlich  
sjh50 : 9/12/2013 11:56 pm : link
Hate the play. Watching the Cowboys taps of him on Game Rewind was just plain ugly.

Oddly, a lot of it really does seem to be mental with him - he plays like a spaz (and not in a good way). Couple that with not being extremely athletic and it's not the best combination.

Giants' really screwed up when their first actions after last  
Reese's Pieces : 9/13/2013 12:04 am : link
season ended was to cut Boley and Blackburn (although Boley might have been cut because of pleading guilty to child abuse). They are both better than what we have now.

Blackburn not the big run-stuffing hulk you look for at MLB, but maybe that not so important with the defensive tackles we added.

Chase was smart and had a nose for the ball. It would probably surprise a lot of people to hear that in 2012 he led the Giants in total tackles, had one interception and five forced fumbles.
Speedy,....no  
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 9/13/2013 12:15 am : link
two are not enough. You have to ask yourself what more this team could have done if we managed the personnel better. If our O-line has not been this bad for the past 4 years. If we had Linebackers that were legit starters. Maybe we would have never missed the playoffs since 2007 and possibly won another title.

You can feel satisfied if you want. I dont...i want more
Time to suck it up  
Blueballz : 9/13/2013 12:26 am : link
and grovel to Gettelman to trade our 1st and 2nd pick this year, plus our 1st and 2nd next year for Chase Blackburn.
Move kiwi  
Fish : 9/13/2013 12:44 am : link
To MLB
Well this blows, god damn it  
dangerousrappingfrog : 9/13/2013 8:06 am : link
We are cursed at the MLB position
Well this blows, god damn it  
dangerousrappingfrog : 9/13/2013 8:06 am : link
We are cursed at the MLB position
I was not a fan of letting Chase go without having a real upgrade.  
Victor in CT : 9/13/2013 8:08 am : link
As others have said, he may not have been Harry Carson, but he had a nose for the ball and made plays. I have been completely unimpressed by Connor. J-A-G. Herzlich is even worse.

This situation highlights the stupidity of the Nassib move. Giving up an extra pick, wasting a 4th rounder on a position that at this time did not need to be addressed. Had they stood pat, Khaseem Greene (BBI fave), Sean Porter and Gerald Hodges were all available. The 6th rounder they gave up could have landed Vince Williams, who made the Steelers.
Victor  
stretch234 : 9/13/2013 9:17 am : link
What exactly had distinguished Hodges, Porter or Greene as being clear NFL upgrades at MLB
Chase Blackburn had some strong contributions in 2011  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2013 9:19 am : link
but when we went into 2012 with him as a starter, we saw right away that he cannot play full time.
I would not be opposed to giving Tim Shaw a sniff, he can run  
dangerousrappingfrog : 9/13/2013 9:35 am : link
and cover ok. I don't think he has much experience at MLB though.
Stretch: younger, cheaper, more potential upside.  
Victor in CT : 9/13/2013 9:40 am : link
In Connor, Herzlich, Rivers et al we know what we have: Mediocrity at best, incompetence at worst.

I don't pretend to know what kind of pros they might become. I do know that QB was not a pressing need and LB was. Williams (6th rounder)actually made the Steelers. Greene has received very favorable reviews thus far with the Bears. Porter made the Bengals but hurt his shoulder and was IR'd. Hodges made the Vikings. So, every one of the 4 made his respective team, each of whom has better LBs than the Giants do. Nassib has been unimpressive, and if Eli ever went down the season would be over anyway. 2 wasted picks to get a player who they pray won't have to play.
A shame  
JonC : 9/13/2013 9:40 am : link
Connor is an upgrade over Chase, but staying healthy has been one of his issues in the NFL. Get well, DC.
Unlikley a rookie 4th round pick earns a starting MIKE  
JonC : 9/13/2013 9:44 am : link
gig, even on the Giants in their current state.
true JonC, but you might be able to find the guy who can become the  
Victor in CT : 9/13/2013 9:46 am : link
long term solution. One HOFer named Harry Carson was a 4th rounder.
I might be in the minority, but I thought Connor was solid,  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2013 9:48 am : link
knew his position, but unspectacular, which is the best of what we had.

He's a starter on any team that doesn't have a pro-bowl guy in front of him. His failing has always been his health, and we shouldn't have relied on him.
Who is we?  
Reese's Pieces : 9/13/2013 9:49 am : link
Quote:
when we went into 2012 with him as a starter, we saw right away that he cannot play full time.

I didn't think that Blackburn was going to find another NFL job, But the Panthers, who are strong at LB, signed him as a reserve and he was active for their first game.

I think he is being a little underrated by some, but I don't watch all the coaches' film. And who thought they would not draft or sign an upgrade for the position?
He was terrible last year as a starter  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2013 9:53 am : link
He's okay as a spot player.

If blackburn were here, he'd be a starter. In carolina, he's just part of the group.

We've seen that movie already. He's great on special teams, he's a good team guy, but asking him to play that much is putting him in an unfair situation.
Victor  
JonC : 9/13/2013 9:57 am : link
Yes, but teams tend to make decisions based on the percentages, and a hoping a 4th rounder will win a starting MIKE gig is a significant gamble.

You're viewing this through your own prism, too. Perhaps a touch of bias involved.
I don't think  
NJGiantFan84 : 9/13/2013 10:06 am : link
this is as disasterous as it seems. I liked Connor, thought he would do a decent job. But i don't think the drop off between him and Herzlich is that much.

That being said, I think they go w/ the 5 DB set w/ Mundy, Rolle, TT, Ross (Or Prince if available) & Webster more often than not, especially against a pass heavy offense.

Jon, if I was vague, apologies. I don't expect a 4th rounder to start  
Victor in CT : 9/13/2013 10:10 am : link
as a rookie. However, I do think it makes more sense to keep a guy like Blackburn who knows the D and whose strengths and weaknesses are known as your stop gap rather than sign a Connor type. Blackburn could then help groom a Green or some other young player.
Understood  
JonC : 9/13/2013 10:20 am : link
The team viewed Connor as a significant upgrade, a player they've liked since college. They viewed him as a safe get, and he was improving weekly. Unfortunately, once again he's dinged.
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