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pjcas18 : 9/12/2013 5:24 pm
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Conor Orr & #8207;@ConorTOrr 19s

Dan Connor has been placed on the IR #nyg


that sucks
Wow.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/12/2013 5:25 pm : link
I don't even know what to say.
Give him credit, when he fakes an injury  
Mad Mike : 9/12/2013 5:25 pm : link
he really commits to it.
.  
pjcas18 : 9/12/2013 5:26 pm : link
Quote:
Patricia Traina ‏@Patricia_Traina 51s

Hopefully Connor's injury isn't career threatening. I always remember how AP had to cut short his career due to a neck problem.
And  
AcidTest : 9/12/2013 5:26 pm : link
there you go. Kudos to all those who said as much. I didn't think his injury was that bad. What's crazy is that Bradford will probably play this week, and not just on ST.
Mad Mike!  
CT Charlie : 9/12/2013 5:28 pm : link
Tweet it to Jerrah.
Wow  
Giantology : 9/12/2013 5:28 pm : link
I wonder if he'll end up getting waived later on
Sucks!  
TC : 9/12/2013 5:28 pm : link
It's like the Giants were low MLB's or anything!
Wow  
Josh in the City : 9/12/2013 5:28 pm : link
total shocker.
For real Mad Mike  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 9/12/2013 5:28 pm : link
Fuck Jerry Jones.
Damn.  
Enoch : 9/12/2013 5:28 pm : link
That's really tough break at a thin position.
Season ending  
jeff57 : 9/12/2013 5:29 pm : link
Unbelievable
Stuck with  
gmen9892 : 9/12/2013 5:29 pm : link
Herzlich as our starting MLB. Not a good look at all.
Ugh, I hope we try to move someone else in at MLB  
David in LA : 9/12/2013 5:30 pm : link
I don't feel comfortable giving the snaps to Herzlich. Why not move Rivers to MLB and get Jacquan more snaps at OLB?
I guess that makes  
JCin332 : 9/12/2013 5:30 pm : link
room for Bradford..
.  
Danny Kanell : 9/12/2013 5:30 pm : link
Holy shit
you can't be shocked by this  
santacruzom : 9/12/2013 5:30 pm : link
This sort of thing happens nearly every season, does it not?
Going intlo the season we were thin at RB, Safety and LB  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 9/12/2013 5:31 pm : link
So far we've lost a RB, Safety and MLB.

Sucks.
Who replaces him? Acho?  
jeff57 : 9/12/2013 5:31 pm : link
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He had a burner in preseason, right?  
BillT : 9/12/2013 5:31 pm : link
The second one is one too many.
I wonder if Brown  
pjcas18 : 9/12/2013 5:31 pm : link
wasn't on temporary IR, if they would have used it for Connor.
Connors came into the game nursing a burner if I remember correctly  
Blue21 : 9/12/2013 5:32 pm : link
Must have gotten much worse.
Whoa - what?!  
jcn56 : 9/12/2013 5:32 pm : link
A burner ended up getting a guy on IR after such a short period of time? Don't they normally wait those out a bit?
Paging Kevin Lewis.  
MOOPS : 9/12/2013 5:32 pm : link
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So glad we cut Boz  
BlueHurricane : 9/12/2013 5:32 pm : link
And kept Cordle.
weeeeeee.....  
greenzone? : 9/12/2013 5:32 pm : link
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this sucks he was playing decent ball  
Torrag : 9/12/2013 5:33 pm : link
Hopefully Bradford is a player that can be gotten ready fast. I have little confidence Mark Herzlich is capable of starting.
in the practice  
pjcas18 : 9/12/2013 5:33 pm : link
tweet thread I was sure I read that Connor felt he was day to day.
crazy...  
Krisqo : 9/12/2013 5:34 pm : link
I wonder if they think of moving Kiwi back to linebacker now, esp with Moore getting healthy.
Pathetic.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/12/2013 5:34 pm : link
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They had to keep Cordle  
BillT : 9/12/2013 5:36 pm : link
With Diehl injured.
Peyton  
AcidTest : 9/12/2013 5:36 pm : link
Manning and his TE will kill us with pass up the seam against Herzlich. Welker on crossing routes in front of him as well.
Shocking. We're in trouble, because Herzlich isn't the answer.  
yatqb : 9/12/2013 5:38 pm : link
Damn.
Shoulda signed Daryl Smith instead of this paolooka Connor  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 5:38 pm : link
He's always been hurt. Stupid decision to sign him in the first place.
Rivers could see time in the middle  
Big Blue '56 : 9/12/2013 5:38 pm : link
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Giants ARE NOT going to go with 4 linebackers..  
Rsspro : 9/12/2013 5:39 pm : link
someone else will be signed ASAP in my opinion..

based on prior workouts.. or perhaps we elevate a linebacker from our practice squad..

we'll see..
im rooting for herzlich  
Rob_MTL : 9/12/2013 5:39 pm : link
The kid has heart.
So, is Chase Blackburn still a teacher?  
jcn56 : 9/12/2013 5:40 pm : link
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Rsspro - do we have another spot?  
jcn56 : 9/12/2013 5:40 pm : link
Bradford went to the spot that Connor vacated, didn't he?
Blackburn is with the Panthers  
Curtis in VA : 9/12/2013 5:41 pm : link
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Rsspro  
BillT : 9/12/2013 5:42 pm : link
We now have 5 LBs
Wonder if they will bring in someone  
Curtis in VA : 9/12/2013 5:42 pm : link
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should have never signed him  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/12/2013 5:43 pm : link
I goofed on the cowboys for signing him and giants should have clear.
steered clear  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/12/2013 5:43 pm : link
Damn phone
Also with the Broncos in a regular 3 WR set  
BillT : 9/12/2013 5:44 pm : link
The Giants will probably be in a 4-2-5 nickle for most of the game. Rivers and either Paysinger or Williams depending on the match-up.
Takeo Spikes is still out there  
jeff57 : 9/12/2013 5:44 pm : link
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Who's the 5th LB  
jeff57 : 9/12/2013 5:45 pm : link
?
Guys!!!  
BillT : 9/12/2013 5:46 pm : link
We just claimed LB Allen Bradford from the Seahawks.
Get Brian Urlacher on the phone  
AnyoneButPhilly : 9/12/2013 5:50 pm : link
!!!
Thought Bradford was a RB for sone reason  
jeff57 : 9/12/2013 5:50 pm : link
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I'm thinking Rivers  
mrvax : 9/12/2013 5:51 pm : link
will move to MLB for about 3 series then go out for 4-5 weeks with a fresh injury.
Ha! Rivers is even more injury prone.  
Curtis in VA : 9/12/2013 5:52 pm : link
This is great.
It's time for  
mrvax : 9/12/2013 5:52 pm : link
Herzlich to nut up.
Bradford  
Percy : 9/12/2013 5:53 pm : link
5'11" 235 third year: LB?
Bradford hasn't played a down as a LB in the regular season  
jeff57 : 9/12/2013 5:54 pm : link
Rather have Acho.
I rooted hard for Herzlich  
SanFranGiantsFan : 9/12/2013 5:55 pm : link
But the man is not an NFL player.
Oy vey.  
arcarsenal : 9/12/2013 5:55 pm : link
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Herzlich is awful.....  
MaraTech : 9/12/2013 5:56 pm : link
Hearing that Herzlich is our answer at MLB makes you want to go and buy a case of Tums before Sun. How is the guy still in the league is nothing short of mind boggling. He may have heart, but he has NO talent.
Herzlich stinks  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 5:56 pm : link
He's a tomato can. The Spider Rico of NFL Linebackers in Rocky parlance.
bring back austen  
alligatorpie : 9/12/2013 5:58 pm : link
I wonder if williams could play Mike in a 5-1-5 or 5-2-4
It's a good thing linebackers aren't imporrant  
jeff57 : 9/12/2013 5:58 pm : link
Right Jerry?
And I said like 500 times when we signed Connor that I hated it..  
arcarsenal : 9/12/2013 5:59 pm : link
And this is why.

Herzlich is not an NFL LBer. We'd better hope we can catch lightning in a bottle with someone else. We're going to be running a LOT of big nickel.
Get better, Dan!  
Exit 172 : 9/12/2013 5:59 pm : link
We can't have Herzlich playing Mike. He's terrible.
Wonder if Kiwi can play the middle  
jeff57 : 9/12/2013 6:01 pm : link
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Don't worry guys  
SanFranGiantsFan : 9/12/2013 6:01 pm : link
I'm going in for a workout tomorrow. I can't be any worse than the current crop.
The problem is  
mrvax : 9/12/2013 6:01 pm : link
the Giants staff did bring in a bunch of linebackers. They figured they'd get at least 5 guys that could play on an "acceptable" level.

They were wrong this time. Curry would rather sit at home than play hard. Rivers will be on the injury report in no time. Maybe next year they could do a little more homework for the LB position.

The staff did an excellent job with the whole Dline. They did their best with the Oline. We were good in the backfield until Stevie Brown went to IR and Hill got suspended. You just can't win at every position.


Kiwi cannot play in the middle.  
arcarsenal : 9/12/2013 6:01 pm : link
No way.
Dansby is who we should have signed.  
arcarsenal : 9/12/2013 6:03 pm : link
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damn  
Matt in SGS : 9/12/2013 6:03 pm : link
when the injury happened, Jerry Jones' crap notwithstanding, he looked like he got rocked pretty good. When you hear the report, almost dismissively as "a burner", really doesn't give an indication on how serious they can be. The Giants, unlike some other teams (see the Broncos and Al Wilson) are very conservative around neck injuries and do their best to look out for the player (see Kiwi a few years ago).

For Herzlich, this is it, his make or break. If he doesn't show us that he can play, despite the inspirational story that he is, and his BC connections, he won't be on the roster. The coaches have liked him for a while, it's time to see if he can validate their faith. If not, I wonder if they try to give Boley a call back as well, he was playing some MLB last year for them as well.
Well...that was quick.  
Klaatu : 9/12/2013 6:04 pm : link
Dan, we hardly knew 'ya.
lol  
djm : 9/12/2013 6:04 pm : link
if you don't laugh you'd want to cry...

We just cannot find good thumping LBs for this team. Connor actually resembled a halfway decent MLB. Of course he's done.

I know the philosophy is to build the lines and the DBs, and it's not a bad philosophy but it wouldn't hurt to bring in a legit and HEALTHY LB next season. Maybe even draft one...
sign  
CMicks3110 : 9/12/2013 6:06 pm : link
Ray Lewis!!!
glad we  
Mr. Nickels : 9/12/2013 6:09 pm : link
went out and got a 7th DT instead of a linebacker
Say what you will about Curry  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/12/2013 6:09 pm : link
Effort wasn't the problem. It was talent.
mrvax  
speedywheels : 9/12/2013 6:11 pm : link
he can "nut up" all he wants - he's still going to suck...
The thing is,  
Doomster : 9/12/2013 6:12 pm : link
we were counting on Curry, Rivers, and Connor.....even though Rivers can't stay on the field, Curry had been a bust, and Connor was no vast improvement over Blackburn....

But they are all huge gambles....and now we are paying for it....

Jacobs came back....is Boley the next man up? Is he even in shape?

In last week's game, I thought Paysinger played the best, if you want to call it that, of the linebackers that were out there...while Rivers is fast, he sucks against the run....

I sometimes wonder, if these young linebackers hesitate, because they are afraid to make a mistake....well, they don't have to worry about that anymore, they are all that we have and they will be sent out there no matter what....
P.S.  
Doomster : 9/12/2013 6:14 pm : link
No way does Kiwi go back to linebackers....he sucks more at linebacker than DE....
Good thing Reese doesn't value LB's  
MattHofstra : 9/12/2013 6:15 pm : link
Because we he's if a heaping pile of shit there!

The injury thing is getting old with this team. Every season
Can we please get Jamar Chaney in here  
Rjanyg : 9/12/2013 6:16 pm : link
Unreal!!
* we have  
MattHofstra : 9/12/2013 6:17 pm : link
I meant to write in my last post
Chaney is a guy that I wouldn't mind at all  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 6:19 pm : link
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unfortunately Herzlich is our only option now  
mofti : 9/12/2013 6:22 pm : link
At least we really get to see what we really have in this kid. If all fails, we will need to sign a big free agent next offseason. We no longer have time to develop such a key position on our defense.
next year  
santacruzom : 9/12/2013 6:23 pm : link
I'm betting that we bring in Rolando McClain and Dontay Moch.
Linebackers don't matter guys  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 6:24 pm : link
Right?

(sarcasm off)
lol santacruzom  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 6:24 pm : link
Sad truth is that you're probably right
(Snickering)  
arcarsenal : 9/12/2013 6:25 pm : link
(Snickering)
How is Khaseem Greene doing?  
oipolloi : 9/12/2013 6:25 pm : link
IIRC a lot of posters wanted him in the 4th when the Giants decided to go with Nassib.
holy crap its a freaking meme  
alligatorpie : 9/12/2013 6:30 pm : link
around here to say this or that player is not NFL.

holy crap.
LB  
RIP : 9/12/2013 6:31 pm : link
I'm really ashamed to admit this but I can't think of the name of the mlb we brought back during 2011. He made the interception in the SB taking the ball from Gronkowski. Where is he now?
I felt LB was a top need in this draft...  
Torrag : 9/12/2013 6:32 pm : link
instead we took a QB to toy around with. It was stupid then and it looks even stupider now.
3 years out of 4 I will still  
alligatorpie : 9/12/2013 6:32 pm : link
"mock draft" a DL before a LB. my 2 bits is the whole 'pile of new old guys' at DT...crowding out the rooks...aaand LB play in our scheme in general vs guys like whitten.

why?
torrag thinking similar  
alligatorpie : 9/12/2013 6:33 pm : link
'should have grabbed a center in the 4th as opposed to a qb'
RIP, Blackburn is in Carolina  
David in LA : 9/12/2013 6:34 pm : link
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RIP...  
arcarsenal : 9/12/2013 6:34 pm : link
That's Blackburn, he's in Carolina.
'Gator...  
Torrag : 9/12/2013 6:36 pm : link
I would have drafted Khassim Greene. IMO he was a 3rd round talent and would have been a value pick at a need position. FYI tho early he has looked good in Chicago so far.
Same story  
PaulN : 9/12/2013 6:37 pm : link
You keep doing the same thing, you get the same shitty results! There is no excuse for this at all, it's sickening. Glad we have 1 Dlinemen though. Now maybe we can put Kiwi, a horrendous linebacker there to make Reese look like he knows what he is doing. Watch what Peyton does to this defense.
Greene wouldn't have solved the MLB problem  
jeff57 : 9/12/2013 6:39 pm : link
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bad situation here  
mdc1 : 9/12/2013 6:41 pm : link
. Just speechless knowing that Herzlich is our only option for starting MLB. The center of the field will be easy access now..
We need LB talent...period  
Torrag : 9/12/2013 6:41 pm : link
every quality LB we add might be the first one on this roster.
Our linebacking corps is without a doubt the most  
Curtis in VA : 9/12/2013 6:41 pm : link
de-emphasized group in the league now. This is perfect for our defense.
Shawn  
whobetta : 9/12/2013 6:43 pm : link
Lights Out Merrimen is looking for some action. he said so on his nfl bit

:)
Is boley  
lester : 9/12/2013 6:49 pm : link
Still an option...this blows bad...maybe maybin or one of the cut lbs from the bengals since they were so deep
Boley coming back would be the long shot of long shots.  
truebluelarry : 9/12/2013 6:53 pm : link
The biggest reason he wanted out from the Giants was he did not want to play MLB anymore, he wants to go back to WLB.

Maybe being out of the league could change his mind, but I'd be surprised.
arcarsenal is right  
FranknWeezer : 9/12/2013 6:54 pm : link
We blew it.

Couldn't afford Dansby  
pjcas18 : 9/12/2013 7:00 pm : link
sadly. His contract was 3 times what the Giants signed Connor for.

Someone would have needed to be cut to make that happen.
I was hoping that the Giants would sign Daryl Smith.  
Big Blue '56 : 9/12/2013 7:03 pm : link
I thought for 2-3 years he'd be very solid for us..
In the 2014 draft, the NYG select,  
bob in tx : 9/12/2013 7:15 pm : link
AJ Johnson, MLB, Univ. of Tenn.
PJ, Dansby is a $2.25m cap hit, right?  
David in LA : 9/12/2013 7:17 pm : link
I don't think it's out of the question that we could have maneuvered and found some money to make that kind of room. Considering the pile of shit that we've had at LB, it'd been nice to pony up and bring in a guy like him.
you've  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/12/2013 7:25 pm : link
got to be shitting me.
2011 Draft  
MikeinSeattle : 9/12/2013 7:26 pm : link
Days like today get me all pissed off again that we took Jernigan one pick ahead of Tampa taking Mason Foster in 2011, as if his 8 tackles and 2 sacks against the Jets on Sunday wasn't enough.
David  
pjcas18 : 9/12/2013 7:30 pm : link
you're probably right they can always make it work if they really want to, just looking back though he did sign for 3 times as much as the LB they signed, and I think most people feel Dansby is better than Connor, so if it wasn't cash hard to explain.

I can't believe Dansby would opt for Arizona over the Giants, but he picked Miami over the Giants, so who knows, maybe he just doesn't want to play here (despite what his father may have claimed)

Don't worry  
nygirlie : 9/12/2013 7:33 pm : link
TT can play some MLB
The FO has blown draft after draft since Reese's 2007 bonanza.  
Red Dog : 9/12/2013 7:37 pm : link
It's been a serious problem before, like in 2009 when they took a QB and two CBs who never even made the team instead of getting the Safety they desperately needed. So they were signing Safeties off the streets by mid-season. I won't even mention the H-Back/TE who didn't fit any need they had that year.

Or 2010 when they took a punter that - naw I don't even want to go there.....

And it's still a problem. Nassib cost them a 4th and a 6th that could have been used on badly needed OL and LB help. At least they would have had a couple more warm bodies instead of a uniform on the bench who will probably never play a meaningful down for them and won't be flipped for anything because he won't have a chance to play.
Every year with this team  
ZogZerg : 9/12/2013 7:40 pm : link
The worst part is that this shit seems to pop out of thing air. From stinger to IR...
.....  
Micko : 9/12/2013 7:50 pm : link
Probably going to be in the nickel all game against Peyton and dare them to run. Maybe we can get by this week.
3x as much makes it sound like a lot..  
arcarsenal : 9/12/2013 7:51 pm : link
But Dansby only got slightly over 2M for 1 year. I have a hard time believing we couldn't free up ~1.5M somehow. Especially for a superior player who doesn't miss many games.

Oh well. For whatever reason it didn't happen. Sucks for us.
Didn't one  
Pete in MD : 9/12/2013 7:57 pm : link
of the beat reporters tweet that he was visiting the doctor today? I guess the news wasn't encouraging.
" don't worry I got this"  
gtt350 : 9/12/2013 7:58 pm : link



Brandon Jacobs
Just wondering, Diehl's cap figure is what, $1m?  
David in LA : 9/12/2013 7:59 pm : link
Is that what we'd save if we cut him outright? Diehl's $1m plus the vet minimum we're paying Connor might have helped us cross the finish line with Dansby.
sooo  
tikisbarber : 9/12/2013 8:16 pm : link
where do we go from here at MLB? We only had Herzlich? No one else?
chris cogong  
viggie : 9/12/2013 8:18 pm : link
is UFA , rehabbed from achillies last season. Kick the tires?
Cogong was pretty horrible  
tikisbarber : 9/12/2013 8:19 pm : link
for the Eagles.
Gocong*  
tikisbarber : 9/12/2013 8:19 pm : link
him too.
David - If the Giants were to cut Diehl, the cap savings would be 800K  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 8:25 pm : link
His cap number is $3,125,000.
I looked the unsigned vet free agents  
viggie : 9/12/2013 8:26 pm : link
pickings are slim which is why jerry went the route he went. Dan Connor reminds me of nick johnson of the yanks. Just cant stay healthy ever.
Thanks Optimus!  
David in LA : 9/12/2013 8:28 pm : link
What's the net savings if we cut him prior to the restructure? Sorry to make you do extra work!
Three days after the Giants cut Boley, he turned himself in at an  
Reese's Pieces : 9/12/2013 8:31 pm : link
Atlanta police station and pleaded guilty to child abuse. Seems very likely that the Giants cut him over that.

Some say that his play fell off badly last year. Maybe so, although I didn't notice it. He played in every game, had his usual number of tackles along with three picks. He was better than any other LB we had on the roster.

Anyway, there is no chance the Giants bring him back. Bengals worked him out a few days ago but apparently nothing came of it.
Available Inside LBers  
Johnm/Dallas : 9/12/2013 8:38 pm : link
Inside Linebacker
Takeo Spikes
Bradie James
Larry Grant (suspended three more games)
Barrett Ruud
Demorrio Williams (WLB in 4-3/ILB in 3-4)
Kirk Morrison
Zac Diles
Gary Guyton
Omar Gaither (WLB in 4-3)
Niko Koutouvides
Tavares Gooden
Mike Peterson (SLB)
Jamar Chaney
Tim Shaw
Brandon Siler
A.J. Edds
Brendon Ayanbadejo
Ricky Brown
Keyaron Fox
Travis Goethel
Tyrone McKenzie
Leon Williams
Kenny Onatolu (OLB in 4-3)
Brandon Johnson
Doug Hogue
L.J. Fort
D.J. Smith
Stevenson Sylvester
Ryan Rau
Josh Hull
Phillip Dillard
Greg Lloyd
Link - ( New Window )
Ruud?  
phil fromphilly : 9/12/2013 8:41 pm : link
Is he healthy?
Reese should've never given that ESPN interview  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/12/2013 8:53 pm : link
where he asked "do you remember who the Lbs were from the first Super Bowl Team". Hubris.
I'm oddly optimistic  
oldutican : 9/12/2013 9:11 pm : link
Conner was not a solution. The Giants are overdue for getting lucky finding a LB who can play, and maybe Bradford will be that guy.
Sall good David  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 9:12 pm : link
Here's the 411 prior to Diehl's restrcture:

Cap Savings - $6,903,125
Dead Money - $2,078,125
Cap Savings - $4,825,000


This is it after:

Cap Savings - $3,125,000
Dead Money - $2,325,000
Cap Savings - $800,000
this blows  
chris r : 9/12/2013 9:13 pm : link
he's not very good, but he's not as bad as Herzlich.
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad - That interview did cross my mind  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 9:14 pm : link
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I sure wish we had Chase Blackburn still.  
yatqb : 9/12/2013 9:16 pm : link
Not great but better than what we have.
Blackburn wasn't better than Connor....  
Torrag : 9/12/2013 9:25 pm : link
and Connor stayed healthy the entire season last year in dallas. That was an upgrade. It's bad luck.
WE could have had Manti....  
Doomster : 9/12/2013 10:00 pm : link
JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blackburn was better than Herzlich  
chris r : 9/12/2013 10:01 pm : link
though.
Give the front office a little more credit for drafting.  
Reese's Pieces : 9/12/2013 10:11 pm : link
In 2008, picking last in first and second round they plucked up Kenny Phillips and Terrell Thomas. Two should-have-been future Pro-Bowlers.
We worked out Gooden and Edds.  
Anakim : 9/12/2013 10:17 pm : link
Reunion with Dillard! Haha
This is our depth coming to bite us on the ass again...  
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 9/12/2013 10:20 pm : link
At LB, our starters would be backups on a lot of other teams. Our backups would not play on other teams. We seem to be giving Reese a pass since 2007 because he had a nice draft that year?

Can someone please explain "In Reese we trust"? Where does all of this trust come from?
Urlacher  
spike : 9/12/2013 10:23 pm : link
Give him a call... Still better than Herz
Man, Conner faked himself onto  
Scrub : 9/12/2013 10:42 pm : link
year ending IR. Now, that's some supreme faking. Talk about taking one for the team. All just to show JJ up.
Dan Connor should get an Oscar  
David in LA : 9/12/2013 10:46 pm : link
for faking it and ending up on IR?
P.S. David  
Optimus-NY : 9/12/2013 10:53 pm : link
Diehl wasn't restructured. He was given a pay cut.
David in LA  
Dylan fan : 9/12/2013 10:55 pm : link
Ever heard of "sarcasm?" New Yorkers are purportedly big on it. :)
EricJ  
speedywheels : 9/12/2013 11:32 pm : link
2 SB titles aren't enough proof for you? Sheesh...
Love the heart of Herzlich  
sjh50 : 9/12/2013 11:56 pm : link
Hate the play. Watching the Cowboys taps of him on Game Rewind was just plain ugly.

Oddly, a lot of it really does seem to be mental with him - he plays like a spaz (and not in a good way). Couple that with not being extremely athletic and it's not the best combination.

Giants' really screwed up when their first actions after last  
Reese's Pieces : 9/13/2013 12:04 am : link
season ended was to cut Boley and Blackburn (although Boley might have been cut because of pleading guilty to child abuse). They are both better than what we have now.

Blackburn not the big run-stuffing hulk you look for at MLB, but maybe that not so important with the defensive tackles we added.

Chase was smart and had a nose for the ball. It would probably surprise a lot of people to hear that in 2012 he led the Giants in total tackles, had one interception and five forced fumbles.
Speedy,....no  
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 9/13/2013 12:15 am : link
two are not enough. You have to ask yourself what more this team could have done if we managed the personnel better. If our O-line has not been this bad for the past 4 years. If we had Linebackers that were legit starters. Maybe we would have never missed the playoffs since 2007 and possibly won another title.

You can feel satisfied if you want. I dont...i want more
Time to suck it up  
Blueballz : 9/13/2013 12:26 am : link
and grovel to Gettelman to trade our 1st and 2nd pick this year, plus our 1st and 2nd next year for Chase Blackburn.
Move kiwi  
Fish : 9/13/2013 12:44 am : link
To MLB
Well this blows, god damn it  
dangerousrappingfrog : 9/13/2013 8:06 am : link
We are cursed at the MLB position
Well this blows, god damn it  
dangerousrappingfrog : 9/13/2013 8:06 am : link
We are cursed at the MLB position
I was not a fan of letting Chase go without having a real upgrade.  
Victor in CT : 9/13/2013 8:08 am : link
As others have said, he may not have been Harry Carson, but he had a nose for the ball and made plays. I have been completely unimpressed by Connor. J-A-G. Herzlich is even worse.

This situation highlights the stupidity of the Nassib move. Giving up an extra pick, wasting a 4th rounder on a position that at this time did not need to be addressed. Had they stood pat, Khaseem Greene (BBI fave), Sean Porter and Gerald Hodges were all available. The 6th rounder they gave up could have landed Vince Williams, who made the Steelers.
Victor  
stretch234 : 9/13/2013 9:17 am : link
What exactly had distinguished Hodges, Porter or Greene as being clear NFL upgrades at MLB
Chase Blackburn had some strong contributions in 2011  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2013 9:19 am : link
but when we went into 2012 with him as a starter, we saw right away that he cannot play full time.
I would not be opposed to giving Tim Shaw a sniff, he can run  
dangerousrappingfrog : 9/13/2013 9:35 am : link
and cover ok. I don't think he has much experience at MLB though.
Stretch: younger, cheaper, more potential upside.  
Victor in CT : 9/13/2013 9:40 am : link
In Connor, Herzlich, Rivers et al we know what we have: Mediocrity at best, incompetence at worst.

I don't pretend to know what kind of pros they might become. I do know that QB was not a pressing need and LB was. Williams (6th rounder)actually made the Steelers. Greene has received very favorable reviews thus far with the Bears. Porter made the Bengals but hurt his shoulder and was IR'd. Hodges made the Vikings. So, every one of the 4 made his respective team, each of whom has better LBs than the Giants do. Nassib has been unimpressive, and if Eli ever went down the season would be over anyway. 2 wasted picks to get a player who they pray won't have to play.
A shame  
JonC : 9/13/2013 9:40 am : link
Connor is an upgrade over Chase, but staying healthy has been one of his issues in the NFL. Get well, DC.
Unlikley a rookie 4th round pick earns a starting MIKE  
JonC : 9/13/2013 9:44 am : link
gig, even on the Giants in their current state.
true JonC, but you might be able to find the guy who can become the  
Victor in CT : 9/13/2013 9:46 am : link
long term solution. One HOFer named Harry Carson was a 4th rounder.
I might be in the minority, but I thought Connor was solid,  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2013 9:48 am : link
knew his position, but unspectacular, which is the best of what we had.

He's a starter on any team that doesn't have a pro-bowl guy in front of him. His failing has always been his health, and we shouldn't have relied on him.
Who is we?  
Reese's Pieces : 9/13/2013 9:49 am : link
Quote:
when we went into 2012 with him as a starter, we saw right away that he cannot play full time.

I didn't think that Blackburn was going to find another NFL job, But the Panthers, who are strong at LB, signed him as a reserve and he was active for their first game.

I think he is being a little underrated by some, but I don't watch all the coaches' film. And who thought they would not draft or sign an upgrade for the position?
He was terrible last year as a starter  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2013 9:53 am : link
He's okay as a spot player.

If blackburn were here, he'd be a starter. In carolina, he's just part of the group.

We've seen that movie already. He's great on special teams, he's a good team guy, but asking him to play that much is putting him in an unfair situation.
Victor  
JonC : 9/13/2013 9:57 am : link
Yes, but teams tend to make decisions based on the percentages, and a hoping a 4th rounder will win a starting MIKE gig is a significant gamble.

You're viewing this through your own prism, too. Perhaps a touch of bias involved.
I don't think  
NJGiantFan84 : 9/13/2013 10:06 am : link
this is as disasterous as it seems. I liked Connor, thought he would do a decent job. But i don't think the drop off between him and Herzlich is that much.

That being said, I think they go w/ the 5 DB set w/ Mundy, Rolle, TT, Ross (Or Prince if available) & Webster more often than not, especially against a pass heavy offense.

Jon, if I was vague, apologies. I don't expect a 4th rounder to start  
Victor in CT : 9/13/2013 10:10 am : link
as a rookie. However, I do think it makes more sense to keep a guy like Blackburn who knows the D and whose strengths and weaknesses are known as your stop gap rather than sign a Connor type. Blackburn could then help groom a Green or some other young player.
Understood  
JonC : 9/13/2013 10:20 am : link
The team viewed Connor as a significant upgrade, a player they've liked since college. They viewed him as a safe get, and he was improving weekly. Unfortunately, once again he's dinged.
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