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pjcas18 : 9/12/2013 5:24 pm
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Conor Orr & #8207;@ConorTOrr 19s

Dan Connor has been placed on the IR #nyg


that sucks
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Move kiwi  
Fish : 9/13/2013 12:44 am : link
To MLB
Well this blows, god damn it  
dangerousrappingfrog : 9/13/2013 8:06 am : link
We are cursed at the MLB position
Well this blows, god damn it  
dangerousrappingfrog : 9/13/2013 8:06 am : link
We are cursed at the MLB position
I was not a fan of letting Chase go without having a real upgrade.  
Victor in CT : 9/13/2013 8:08 am : link
As others have said, he may not have been Harry Carson, but he had a nose for the ball and made plays. I have been completely unimpressed by Connor. J-A-G. Herzlich is even worse.

This situation highlights the stupidity of the Nassib move. Giving up an extra pick, wasting a 4th rounder on a position that at this time did not need to be addressed. Had they stood pat, Khaseem Greene (BBI fave), Sean Porter and Gerald Hodges were all available. The 6th rounder they gave up could have landed Vince Williams, who made the Steelers.
Victor  
stretch234 : 9/13/2013 9:17 am : link
What exactly had distinguished Hodges, Porter or Greene as being clear NFL upgrades at MLB
Chase Blackburn had some strong contributions in 2011  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2013 9:19 am : link
but when we went into 2012 with him as a starter, we saw right away that he cannot play full time.
I would not be opposed to giving Tim Shaw a sniff, he can run  
dangerousrappingfrog : 9/13/2013 9:35 am : link
and cover ok. I don't think he has much experience at MLB though.
Stretch: younger, cheaper, more potential upside.  
Victor in CT : 9/13/2013 9:40 am : link
In Connor, Herzlich, Rivers et al we know what we have: Mediocrity at best, incompetence at worst.

I don't pretend to know what kind of pros they might become. I do know that QB was not a pressing need and LB was. Williams (6th rounder)actually made the Steelers. Greene has received very favorable reviews thus far with the Bears. Porter made the Bengals but hurt his shoulder and was IR'd. Hodges made the Vikings. So, every one of the 4 made his respective team, each of whom has better LBs than the Giants do. Nassib has been unimpressive, and if Eli ever went down the season would be over anyway. 2 wasted picks to get a player who they pray won't have to play.
A shame  
JonC : 9/13/2013 9:40 am : link
Connor is an upgrade over Chase, but staying healthy has been one of his issues in the NFL. Get well, DC.
Unlikley a rookie 4th round pick earns a starting MIKE  
JonC : 9/13/2013 9:44 am : link
gig, even on the Giants in their current state.
true JonC, but you might be able to find the guy who can become the  
Victor in CT : 9/13/2013 9:46 am : link
long term solution. One HOFer named Harry Carson was a 4th rounder.
I might be in the minority, but I thought Connor was solid,  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2013 9:48 am : link
knew his position, but unspectacular, which is the best of what we had.

He's a starter on any team that doesn't have a pro-bowl guy in front of him. His failing has always been his health, and we shouldn't have relied on him.
Who is we?  
Reese's Pieces : 9/13/2013 9:49 am : link
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when we went into 2012 with him as a starter, we saw right away that he cannot play full time.

I didn't think that Blackburn was going to find another NFL job, But the Panthers, who are strong at LB, signed him as a reserve and he was active for their first game.

I think he is being a little underrated by some, but I don't watch all the coaches' film. And who thought they would not draft or sign an upgrade for the position?
He was terrible last year as a starter  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2013 9:53 am : link
He's okay as a spot player.

If blackburn were here, he'd be a starter. In carolina, he's just part of the group.

We've seen that movie already. He's great on special teams, he's a good team guy, but asking him to play that much is putting him in an unfair situation.
Victor  
JonC : 9/13/2013 9:57 am : link
Yes, but teams tend to make decisions based on the percentages, and a hoping a 4th rounder will win a starting MIKE gig is a significant gamble.

You're viewing this through your own prism, too. Perhaps a touch of bias involved.
I don't think  
NJGiantFan84 : 9/13/2013 10:06 am : link
this is as disasterous as it seems. I liked Connor, thought he would do a decent job. But i don't think the drop off between him and Herzlich is that much.

That being said, I think they go w/ the 5 DB set w/ Mundy, Rolle, TT, Ross (Or Prince if available) & Webster more often than not, especially against a pass heavy offense.

Jon, if I was vague, apologies. I don't expect a 4th rounder to start  
Victor in CT : 9/13/2013 10:10 am : link
as a rookie. However, I do think it makes more sense to keep a guy like Blackburn who knows the D and whose strengths and weaknesses are known as your stop gap rather than sign a Connor type. Blackburn could then help groom a Green or some other young player.
Understood  
JonC : 9/13/2013 10:20 am : link
The team viewed Connor as a significant upgrade, a player they've liked since college. They viewed him as a safe get, and he was improving weekly. Unfortunately, once again he's dinged.
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