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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2013 4:17 pm
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Sometimes the other team is better than the Giants and  
BigBlueBuff : 9/15/2013 7:06 pm : link
sometimes the Giants just make so many unforced errors that they simply can't win. I would say that it's been the latter the past two weeks.

It is a damn shame. They are as good or better than Denver and Dallas.
Good news  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/15/2013 7:06 pm : link
the Cowboys, Redskins, and Eagles all lost.
0-2  
endwerc : 9/15/2013 7:07 pm : link
The uphill climb is daunting.
Our running  
Free Agent : 9/15/2013 7:08 pm : link
Game is horrible!!!!
This team is  
Giantology : 9/15/2013 7:08 pm : link
fucked.
agree with the first post  
TexasGmenFan : 9/15/2013 7:08 pm : link
it would be one thing if this team came out and lost 31-3 in back to back games from being outclassed.

this team just cant get out of its own fucking way. in 1 game, you have 5 turnovers and yet it takes the 6th one when you're driving for the GW TD to officially lose. this week, you cut a game to 17-16 with a chance to get to .500 and somehow allow 3 TDs in 5mins.

just a comedy of errors for 2 weeks now. the sad thing is the defense has actually flashed, but the offense is once again - ALL on Eli.
Better news Lots of top tier  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/15/2013 7:08 pm : link
OL talent in the draft next year. Not good news short term but the way things are going the Giiants will have a nice high pick.

BigBlueBuff  
Giantology : 9/15/2013 7:09 pm : link
Good teams find a way to win. We're not as good as Denver or Dallas right now.
No excuses  
AnotherGiantsFan : 9/15/2013 7:09 pm : link
We lost.

This was the first year in a while where I came into the season with a lot of doubt. We're gonna win games, but I just don't see a playoff team right now.
well  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 9/15/2013 7:09 pm : link
BBB  
HAW HAW HAW It's GARY SHAW : 9/15/2013 7:10 pm : link
Not getting a Buff game this weekend and now this....not a good football weekend. Giants look slow.
Jerry Reese  
Giantology : 9/15/2013 7:10 pm : link
should unplug the piece of shit countdown clock in the locker room.
#SuckForClowney  
GiantsBRFan : 9/15/2013 7:10 pm : link
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Spare me the  
BigBlueBuff : 9/15/2013 7:11 pm : link
cliches.
They've bounced back from 0-2 before and they'll do it again this year  
Riggies : 9/15/2013 7:12 pm : link
They're not a great team. So what? Except for 2008, they never have been under Coughlin.

They're up and down, mistake-prone? That's their identity, always has been this era.

They'll beat Carolina next week and things will brighten up a bit, til their next stretch of piss poor play.
When you make unforced errors like this  
GiantFanInTX : 9/15/2013 7:12 pm : link
it means you are not good. The Giants are a terrible football team right now. Special teams stinks, the defense stinks, the offensive line is terrible and the QB is a turnover machine. You aren't going to win like this.

The good news is there is still time to right the ship. We have 8 turnovers in less than two games. We can't run. The defense sucks on 3rd down. Do we have the talent to fix this? Remains to be seen. The offensive line draft picks have not worked out. Hard to believe the younger guys could be worse than Snee and Baas.
just cant seem to get out of our own way  
TexasGmenFan : 9/15/2013 7:12 pm : link
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Same old crap different year  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 9/15/2013 7:12 pm : link
Coughlin's teams are so predictable. Our d is soft, and offense is predictable. It's getting to the point of we need change for the sake of change.
BBB  
redbeard : 9/15/2013 7:12 pm : link
let's stop with the "they are better than xyz" BS.


They are not. They are a talented team that has been making rookie mistakes and shows zero ability to capitalize on opportunities.




They are not even close to being better than Denver. They don't even have the right to be in the same conversation as this team stands now.



We are talented but we are careless, make stupid mistakes and show no ability to capitalize on golden opportunities. We aren't "better" than anyone right now.

This isn't doom and gloom. Clean up the mistakes and learn how to punch it in from close and we can have a go at anyone...but RIGHT NOW? This is a shitty looking football team
BBB  
AnotherGiantsFan : 9/15/2013 7:13 pm : link
Spare me the excuses.

Denver fumbled at the 1 yard line. Quit making bullshit excuses and take your medicine as a fan. We sucked these past 2 weeks.
I could easily see 1-7  
Bramton1 : 9/15/2013 7:13 pm : link
W Panthers

L Chiefs

L Eagles

L Bears

L Vikings

L Eagles

Is this really all that far-fetched?
What excuses did I make?  
BigBlueBuff : 9/15/2013 7:14 pm : link
I'll wait all night and into next year for you to find the excuse I made.
Only positive is that no one in the division is 2-0  
jeff57 : 9/15/2013 7:14 pm : link
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FFS. They're not going 1-7.  
Riggies : 9/15/2013 7:15 pm : link
If they do, they need to try and find a way to get out from Eli's contract.
And as great as Eli can be at times without any  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/15/2013 7:15 pm : link
Semblance of a running game he's going to be lucky if he doesn't throw as many INTs as he does TDs this year.
this offensive line is minor league  
islander1 : 9/15/2013 7:16 pm : link
its killing this offense.
This is the definition of an excuse  
AnotherGiantsFan : 9/15/2013 7:16 pm : link
Quote:
Sometimes the other team is better than the Giants and
BigBlueBuff : 7:06 pm
sometimes the Giants just make so many unforced errors that they simply can't win. I would say that it's been the latter the past two weeks.

It is a damn shame. They are as good or better than Denver and Dallas.


Saying the loss is squarely our fault, giving the other team absolutely no credit, and then saying we are just as good or better than the team we just lost to...is a full blown fucking bullshit bundle of excuses. Denver and Dallas made excuses too, they just managed to nut up and close out.
Denver and Dallas made mistakes too*  
AnotherGiantsFan : 9/15/2013 7:17 pm : link
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BBB  
Giantology : 9/15/2013 7:17 pm : link
Your first post implies that if we weren't making "unforced errors" we might have won these games, because we are "as good or better" than the two teams we played. Thus, it is an excuse.
Any reinforcements coming on the o-line?  
BigBlueBull : 9/15/2013 7:17 pm : link
A long season unless our o-line starts getting a push at the LOS so we can at least feign the threat of a run game.
Eli knows this game is over  
Bramton1 : 9/15/2013 7:19 pm : link
Those last two plays were complete and utter desperation.
At least I didn't have to wait until midnight  
endwerc : 9/15/2013 7:20 pm : link
to have my day ruined.
we stubbornly played Diehl  
chris r : 9/15/2013 7:21 pm : link
when it was clear to the world that he sucked. Now we're doing that with Snee who has been bad the past few years and even with surgery looks no better. And we don't really have anyone on the team who can take his place and clearly be an upgrade. Ugh.
I'm not a huge "The coach has lost the locker room" guy  
jlukes : 9/15/2013 7:21 pm : link
But these are not Tom Coughlin teams...
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Stan from LA : 9/15/2013 7:21 pm : link
4-12 or 5-11  
Giants_FTW : 9/15/2013 7:22 pm : link
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Jlukes....  
drkenneth : 9/15/2013 7:22 pm : link
What exactly are "Tom Coughlin teams?"

He's been an all or nothing coach his whole career.
How is this not a Tom Coughlin team?  
Riggies : 9/15/2013 7:23 pm : link
They've looked like this before under him and they'll look like this again under him.
jlukes  
chris r : 9/15/2013 7:23 pm : link
the idea that Coughlin teams are super disciplined is a bit of a myth. He wants them to be, but it doesn't consistently happen.
Stating that they made unforced errors that cost them  
BigBlueBuff : 9/15/2013 7:23 pm : link
two games is a fact. Stating that they are as good as or better is my opinion based on what I saw on the field the past two weeks.

Saying something like "the officials cost them the game" is an excuse.

But carry on. You're pissed about the loss and acting like a dick. Nothing new on BBI on a Sunday afternoon in the fall after a bad result. It will all be good tomorrow.
This may be a 4-12 season  
GiantFanInTX : 9/15/2013 7:23 pm : link
We have some talent issues.
At least this sets the stage  
Knee of Theismann : 9/15/2013 7:23 pm : link
For a dramatic Giants win in the Manning - Manning Super Bowl in Giants stadium. That would be great very indicative of both their careers. Eli goes 0-3 against Peyton in the regular season, 1-0 in super bowls.
And Jlukes...  
drkenneth : 9/15/2013 7:24 pm : link
Not jabbing at you, but I have heard that saying a lot. TC wins when nobody expects anything, shits the bed when he has a good team.

Not saying this team is great, but this offense is a disgrace.
Well, I'm tired and  
Sec 103 : 9/15/2013 7:24 pm : link
we lost. Nite...
Holy shit  
Johnny5 : 9/15/2013 7:25 pm : link
I am totally disgusted with this team right now. They suck ASS. Holy shit I am fuming.
Let's examine the talent issues  
Giants_FTW : 9/15/2013 7:25 pm : link
The Giants need a whole new interior OL.
The Linebackers are terrible
We have no good RB's
Eli is getting older...

Get ready to suck for the next 2-3 years. It'll take at least that to fully rebuild.
and turns the ball over WAY too much..  
drkenneth : 9/15/2013 7:25 pm : link
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I think what's being overlooked is that our pass rush was non-existant  
chris r : 9/15/2013 7:25 pm : link
again. We've won with shitty LBers and average secondaries because we smashed QBs with our front four. That's not happening anymore, and won't unless JPP becomes JPP again and/or Moore steps up.

Tuck and Kiwi look pretty ordinary as pass rushers.
Few Thoughts  
Mark from Jersey : 9/15/2013 7:26 pm : link
Still early, but team has not improved at all since pre-season and look to still be in pre-season form.

Paysinger was terrible today. Wailing on Special Teams tackles and Running Plays to the outside, both of which resulted in TDs.

OL is very bad...One play I remember was Snee and Baas didn't even put a hand on a guy that ran free to Eli to force a quick throw.

Cannot run the ball at all.

Why is Scott on the field? He is horrible...DJ Ware V2.0.

I question Eli's decision making on a few plays....I really do not know what he is seeing right now. I do not know if its the WR or him (same question for last 5 years). Underthrows, overthrows...very inaccurate. Having no time doesn't help either.
Also  
Mark from Jersey : 9/15/2013 7:27 pm : link
all that new beef up front and still cannot stop the run...not getting any real heat on the QB either.
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