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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/15/2013 4:17 pm
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yankees78 : 9/15/2013 9:48 pm : link
That game was el stinko

Win next week somehow.
Uh  
Homersimpson : 9/15/2013 9:55 pm : link
Quote:
Our receivers get no respect(yards played off by the DBs)because they don't get off the line quick enough to earn it;


The same receivers who each averaged over 20 YPC last week and each had 100 yards?

Probably not the best unit to target for underperformance.
Osi  
rdt288 : 9/15/2013 9:56 pm : link
Had a pic 6 today. I've seen it all
Our Coordinators are both stubborn......  
Simms11 : 9/15/2013 10:07 pm : link
Gilbride does not help the oline or Eli out. Adjustments need to be made to account for shortfalls in talent and he continues with the same offensive philosophy. On defense, we can't seem to get enough pressure on the QB anymore, so why doesn't Fewell come up with ome exotic blitzes to help?! Stubborness or ignorance?
Not only did we play awful..  
Jan in DC : 9/15/2013 10:09 pm : link
I think that we got the benefit of the doubt by the ref crew. Lots of touchy fouls on their secondary.
lol  
SHO'NUFF : 9/15/2013 10:15 pm : link
the New York Giants are #9 trending on Yahoo! right now. Must be people trying to look up how bad we suck...
Next week  
SBlue46 : 9/15/2013 10:17 pm : link
I look forward to Fatman Barbacue then I sell tickets and go to bar to watch an have some change left unless I get lucky
Too many prayer-bombs by Eli  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2013 10:19 pm : link
Bad enough you have Ints due to miscommunications by the DB, but he compounded it with reckless, needless bombs into triple coverage. There was no need for that whatsoever and I have no idea what he was doing.
Our coaches  
spike : 9/15/2013 10:21 pm : link
Stimk
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ilikethenygiants : 9/15/2013 10:35 pm : link
It drives me crazy that they don't use Wilson. If we're going to lose in the 4th, why isn't he in the game to gain experience, etc.? Also, to have a running game you have to actually run the ball with plays other then shotgun draws and the like.

What a frustrating game - actually, pair of games. Simply maddening. They should have been up at halftime, and then just came out after the half and was a disaster. It sound so silly, but they have to score touchdowns. MInd-numbing.
7-9 Would Be a Gift  
Percy : 9/15/2013 10:36 pm : link
OL blows. RBs blow. DEs blow. LBs blow. Reese cannot live long enough to make up for this mess of a team and its contracts. Clean house. Rescue the franchise. Will take years. Sorry about that.
That's probably sarcasm  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2013 10:45 pm : link
at least I hope.
Nope  
Percy : 9/15/2013 10:49 pm : link
But I acknowledge that I do through these phases when things go badly. Sometimes there are favorable surprises. I just don't think there will be one this year.
The Giants Need  
mrvax : 9/15/2013 11:06 pm : link
to keep the defense fired up and understand their assignments well. The D has to get home more often with the front four.

Eli need to make better decisions.
Oline needs MAX AMOUNT OF PRACTICE time together. Know your assignments! Know the guy next to you his assignments.

Ball security. Randle needs a lesson on that.

This is fixable and fun. The Giants will close out the year with a nice winning streak.
Was at the game  
sjh50 : 9/15/2013 11:07 pm : link
And thought was bad, but not the sky is falling down bad that people are writing about here. Perhaps I should have known better than to think that BBI would be rational.

The comment I personally feel most akin to is
"We're cutting our nose to spite our face." It was very simple to see that a) Jacobs will have emotional appeal but no burst and b) Scott has absolutely no business touching a regular season game field. Yet,play in and play out, Coughlin kept putting them in over Wilson. Did Wilson fuck up last week; yes. But really? Does he put your QB and team in as much harm as not having a resemblance of running and forcing your QB to be down and therefore playing from behind and throwing the entire game? I do not think so.

I love Coughlin but this is just thick-headed. The o-line hasn't played together yet this year - did they suck tonight; absolutely. But they will get better. The DT's are playing awesome - the DE's will get there. The WR's are playing well, and honestly, I think Eli is as well.

I still have faith; but I believe this team needs to come together behind Wilson. When Coughlin lost his faith in him today, it honestly felt like the whole team lost faith in themselves. As Wilson goes, I believe this team goes. Others may and will disagree; but that's what I'm going all in on.
didn't matter who was the back  
lalalalala : 9/15/2013 11:13 pm : link

they refused to run under center. outside the 5 they probably did it twice.

they have zero confidence in the running game, Wilson or no Wilson. they're a trainwreck right now. I don't know how they can play remotely efficient without running under center.

Watching Seattle vs SF now  
Ralph.C : 9/15/2013 11:15 pm : link
Younger, faster and stronger line play.

Don't think we can fix that.

and I'm sure it's been brought up  
lalalalala : 9/15/2013 11:20 pm : link

Randle left 4 on the board and Eli left 3 on the board in the first half, but Ball left an easy 7 on the table. so while they played an okay half... defensively at least, they really didn't deserve better than they got.

the thing that bothers me is that what looked like one of their worst units, the secondary, is one of their most "reliable".
The secondary shut down dallas  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2013 11:39 pm : link
We should have won that game.

Today the secondary kept this from being a wire-to-wire blowout.

There's no problem with the secondary if you give them a lead to defend. They can't carry the team by itself. They're not that good.
Limiting Welker to just 3 catches  
mrvax : 9/15/2013 11:51 pm : link
for 39 yards is a really nice accomplishment.

The Oline did open a hole on one running play. Jacobs found it and ripped off a nice 5 yard gain.
they also stopped Dez cold  
lalalalala : 9/15/2013 11:55 pm : link

had problems with Austin in the slot but that's a big mismatch. really that's the only unit that's overperforming.

LB's have been decent in coverage too. but if you're going to lose in the trenches to the point you have no push defensively and can't line up under center offensively, you're screwed.
lets not overreact or anything  
CGiants07 : 9/16/2013 12:22 am : link
the de's get a pass today on getting to Peyton since he hardly allows people to get to him unless there are blitzers.

Todays game was lost in the 1st half on offense when we left 12 points on the board against this bronco team we needed to score td's to win.

Interior Oline is a problem but its not our biggest, or next biggest, problem which is coughlin being stubborn with Wilson as he needs to get the bulk of the carries(15-20) as he is the only back who can make people miss.

Our 2nd problem is getting JPP back to 2011 form as our defense rellies on elite pass rushing and he is the only way getting in the rotation who does that or has done it in the past. Damonster not getting many/any reps at de is not a surprise given that this was his 1st action in a month.

The two areas I am actually happy with are our wide outs and secondary which are playing well and obviously the strength of the team currently.

Linebacker isn't very good and I think 1 play somes up the entire unit: when the wide out(I think Thomas) fumbled and the ball went right to herzlich where he couldn't recover and then broncos did and went on to score the clinching td.


Eli needs to protect the ball good teams don't have 7 interceptions in 2 games. I understand the OL sucks at run blocking but pass blocking they were alright most of the time. The fluke interception is a complete anomaly though.

Now I will admit I was very pissed after the game, not that we lost but how we lost, but after doing a workout for 45 minutes I came to 1 conclusion the sky isn't falling there are just a few storm clouds that dumped on us the last 2 weeks. I see sunny skies coming next week in Carolina as there defense is horrible and cam newton is holding onto the ball forever so our de's should be able to cause some disruption. The division leader is 1-1 so we are just 1 game back and it looks like 9-10 wins will be enough to win the division and looking at our schedule the next 7 games are much more winnable than the opening 2 games so hopefully they turn it around
Coughlin Strategy  
MauiYankee : 9/16/2013 12:39 am : link
Wow

Coughlin's gottem playing November football ALREADY!!!

Ellie Mae is totally the Sanchise!!
Is anyone really that bummed?  
giantgiantfan : 9/16/2013 12:45 am : link
Did anyone think we would really win before the game today? For me that was a much easier loss to deal with than last weeks. Now I'm watching a Seahawks team that looks unstoppable on defense and seeing that the Giants aren't in their league. Just accept it folks, we got 2 superbowls out of Eli, we might get another, but its not looking likely at this point.
is it me, or do they always lose when they have special ceremonies?  
dvb : 9/16/2013 9:04 am : link
i could be wrong, but iirc, they lost when they retired Simms and LTs numbers. They lost when they had the ring of honor ceremony and last night was Parcells special night. Is it a coincidence? Maybe, but I hope we don't have any more "special" ceremonies for a long time.
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