How much stronger are we expecting him to get? He has a small frame and small arms. He will not be getting much bigger at all. The one thing that sticks out is how small he looks out there. There are TE's that look bigger. He doesn't get any push at all on his defenders. ZERO. I can't think of any situation where he can be our starting RT for the next 3-4 years or for the remainder of the contract.
Hate to sound so negative but it doesn't look like a good pick at all.
There is some though that he could kick inside to center, but I'd rather keep him at RT for now. He's never played center and I don't want another Kiwi DE/LB situation.
Is this really what you took away from the first two weeks?
No matter though, at least we got to see more pictures of dinosaurs.
He could very well get moved inside to the Guard spot down the line. He's pretty versatile which is a very good thing.
clearly its a terrible pick.
In general i think that both sides of the giants lines have not played well
Based on what are we assuming he can't get bigger or stronger?
Terrell Thomas
Antrel Rolle
Cullen Jenkins
Linval Joseph
Shaun Rodgers
Victor Cruz
Hakeem Nicks
As a RT, he will probably be better than average as a pass blocker, in fact far better than average against speed.
He will be worse than average blocking for the run game between the tackles.
He will be far better than average blocking for anything that gets him into space.
blocking is all about strength.. its not about footwork, technique, hand placement, leverage, assignment knowledge...
nope its just about long arms and how much you can bench press..
IMHO, he and Beatty will book end the Giants line for many years.
We'll see how he does,especially against guys with power
Joeckel 6-6 306
Fisher 6-7 306
Johnson 6-7 303
Yes, he is too small
Pass protection is just a lot more important than run blocking these days. It just is. Obviously, you want a guy who does both. But those guys are all pros. If you have to choose at the tackle spot, you want a guy who pass block. And Pugh can do that.
And just for the record, I was very skeptical of the Pugh pick. But after seeing him, I think he is going to be a good OL. Not easy for a rookie to come in and play tackle.
One other observation: I have heard a lot, and thought so myself, that a big part of the effectiveness of the OL depends on the guys having played as a unit for a substantial time. This probably goes back to the '86 Giants for me when the "lunch pail guys" had only one high draft choice, William Roberts. Two were eighth round picks and Jim Burt was signed from the USFL.
With the injuries and the newcomers, the Giants line just has none of that. They should get better as the season goes on. In fact I think that the team will be playing a lot better by the second half of the season, but by then it may be too late.
Re: strength - there is a new invention called an nfl weight room.
I wanted to go OL the first two rounds, but at the second pick there wasn't an OLman ranked high on the board, so Hankins was the pick......
We need OL help next year via the draft or FAcy.....we need two, and maybe 3 new starters...
-- Giants fans on BBI
Let me catch you up real quick here:
The season is already over for us and were supposed to be thinking about the 2014 draft.
65 William Beatty OT 6-6 319
72 Justin Pugh OT 6-4 301
66 David Diehl OT 6-5 304
76 Chris Snee OG 6-3 305
77 Kevin Boothe OG 6-5 320
73 James Brewer OG 6-6 330
67 Brandon Mosley OG 6-5 318
64 David Baas OC 6-4 312
63 Jim Cordle OC 6-3 320
I have watched Pugh and I have been pleasantly surprised. For a rookie, he doesn't make many mental mistakes: holds, offsides, or obvious wrong assignments. He doesn't get out-quicked by DEs and overall does a good job in pass protection--his weakness is the bull rush. He will never be a mauler type and move people out with ease, but he will be able to pull and get to the second level. In today's game, that probably is more important.
pugh combine stats - ( New Window )
William Beattie combine stats - ( New Window )
You seem to be writing him off after 2 games, which quite frankly has to be criticized as stupid, no matter if you have a valid point about his play or not. He has been starting for roughly one month, did you expect a finished product on a disjointed offensive already?
He may move inside, it's entirely possible he's Snees replacement but for now he's our RT and doing a fair job, certainly better than what we had last year.
That being said, I think Pugh has been very solid. He's been one of the better performers on our OL through 2 games.