When will Fewell's job be in jeopardy?

to thrash on Fewell. Like him or not, but I did not see the defense as the problem in both losses.

Alex?

The defense was left hanging out there by the offense in both games. For the most part they held their own until fumbles as picks put them in crap positions. In the Dallas game they held Dallas to 3 points on the first 3 turnovers. And the first one was from about the 5 yd line. What more could we have asked for?

Has the defense won us games? No. But they haven't lost them for us either. They've been very average and hopefully with JPP getting healthier and these guys settling in they become better than average.

The two losses are mostly on the offense total inability to run and the insane turnover numbers.

But they still have trouble setting the edge on end runs and the Broncos exploited that twice on two touchdown runs by Moreno. I would like to see the defense be more agressive also. They always seem to be on their heels.

With the addition and excellent play of T2 it and Rolle now pretty much playing his natural position the secondary I believe has been the strength of the defense, that does not include the linebacker play, as well as the interior line play.

I never liked Fewell as DC. Overall they really only had one dominat run with him as DC and that was the final four games and into the playoffs the year they won the Super Bowl. Other then that his defenses always seem to get out maneuvered by the opposing teams OC during the course of a game.

I see your points. I just think the premise of the OP is way overrated. After thinking about the last two games: If you are calling for the DC to get fired, what' in store for the rest of the team? Skinning?

sorry

Has been set very recently with respect to changing a coordinator late in season and then winning the Super Bowl. Last year the Ravens stagnent offense switch horses in mid stream firing their OC and hiring Jim Caldwell. He did something to Flacco and their system to change/invigorate the troops. I don't know who is not sick and tired of watching our passive defense not fly all over the place.

This is not about the last 2 games this is an ongoing problem. We can't manufacture pressure on the passer. Last year it was giving up far to many home run plays, this year the Knowsean Moreno double take was embarrassing and Fewell rarely makes in game adjustments

I'd rather have Spags back. He's familiar with our coaches and many players on the team still. I'd welcome his aggressive style back in a heart beat.

Crappy punting by Weatherford, the crappy play by the interior OL (especially Baas) on running plays, and Eli's multiple picks puts way too much pressure on the defense.

Some change will be made unless will start to win. I most definitely sense a loss in Carolina this week, AND FINGERS WILL BE POINTING.It won't simply be the 0-3 record, it will be the 3-9 in our last 12 games and what may clearly be a 3rd year in a row and 4 out of 5 with no play-offs.

It will only be two years in a row with out making the playoffs. But it definitely woul be 4 out of 5 yeas with no playoffs. When Eli had us in the playoffs 5 of his jest 5 years as a starter.

five years. Not Jest. Auto Correct.

Unless the OL starts keeping defenders out of the backfield on running plays.

I'm afraid the backups aren't much better, Reese needs to retool the interior OL through the draft (in the first three rounds) and free agency. Snee and Baas are horrendously overpaid, Reese needs to restructure their contracts.

Against Dallas their defense was designed to not let the WR beat them - they were successful. 30 other QB had a higher YPA than Romo than Romo that week.

Dallas started 3 drives in Giants territory and got 3 points. The D also gave the offense the ball back late 2 consecutive times

Against Denver they limited the first 2 threats in Thomas & Welker pretty well. They have been better against the run

The defense is not why this team is 0-2

if you don't have blitzers who can get home. Which of our LBers do you expect will get to the QB if they blitz? I think we are one of the worst blitzing teams around (but of course, I'm biased and haven't done any research to back that up). It just seems that for several years now we haven't been very good at blitzing - with only the occasional results from the pressure. Most of the time we telegraph the blitz.

the 2 losses. The offense was responsible for the both losses. In DAL they literally gave the game away. All the points were either direct TDs by the DAL defense or scored by the DAL ofense from extremely generous field position courtesy of Giants tournovers. Against Denver, the D was outsanding in the 1st half and the Offense could not put up 1 fucking TD in 3 chances in plus territory. Think the game may have ended differently with even 2 TDs in place of 3 FGs in the first half and the Giants are up 17-10 or 21-10?

The only pick that pressured the defense was the 2nd one.

First was at the end of half that was kneel'd. The last two were ducks at the end of the game when the game was out of reach. I say settling for FG's was a bigger issue, but you can tie that in with rushing/OL issues because their overall production.

I do recall on more than a handful of defensive snaps that a DB would line up close to scrimmage and maybe it's up to them to make a read but sometimes they did blitz and never got home, and other times they back pedaled into coverage.

Nevermind that the D looks to be moving in a better direction and that the offense has cost us big time by turning the ball over 60 times a game and continuing to kick field goals over and over again rather than score TD's... just fire the DC. That'll fix everything.

How often do you think teams in the NFL win when they give the ball away 6 or 4 times?

I'm not a fan of Fewell (never have been) and a lot of people have been calling for his and Gilbride's heads on platters but I've seen few suggestions of who would replace them. Promoting from within doesn't make much sense to me since this seems like an overall organizational issue (and I highly doubt the Giants organization will make such a drastic move mid-season). It seems like "new blood" is what is being called for, and I don't disagree.

I'm not trying to be flip - I seriously am not familiar with who else is available who could actually produce results with the players the Giants currently have.

He's good at it, and if he stays healthy and gets his timing back, he'll be a weapon. Maybe Hosley and Taylor can apply some pressure from the backfield too.

Fewell is a realist about his players' capabilities. Early in the 2010 season, he designed a whole package to create rush opportunities for Kiwanuka. It worked great until Kiwi suffered a serious neck injury. He hasn't been the same player since. Moore will be that guy if he can stay on the field long enough to earn the coaches' trust.

I'd like to see what Herzlich can add to the pass rush, because he flashed those skills in college and he isn't much help in coverage. By sending the MIKE, though, you put enormous pressure on your DBs if it doesn't work perfectly.

nothing in New Orleans and the roster is radically different than when he was last here.

The offense has had plenty of opportunities to produce and do nothing. Defense has had nothing to defend. Have we had more than a 3 point lead all season?

you have to have the players to blitz....our linebackers are so bad, they do not have the ability to go though blockers....many times when they blitz, they are stopped dead in their tracks, or are taken out by the ankles.....this is the same reason they are poor against the run....they make contact and the runner still gets an extra 2-3 yards on the tackle....JW may have speed, but he does not have momentum....the others are slow....

But what gets me is, look at our alignment...four down linemen, and then you see the 3 horsemen 5 yards back....now, if they blitz from that position, they are just too slow and have to make up that extra 5 yards....

The OL looking at this alignment, has 5 blocking 4, maybe that TE gives a DE a nudge before he goes out, and you have a halfback that gives a chip block before going out...that's 4 guys rushing against 7.....easy to set up your blocking scheme...Is it any wonder we do not get to the qb?

The LB'ers have to be closer to the line to blitz....but they don't even have to blitz....the fact that they are jumping around near the line, makes the opposing OLmen have to think about them for at least a split second, which is some advantage to our DL, not much, but it is better than none....

And when they do blitz, there doesn't seem to be stunting involved to confuse the blocking assignments....our pass rush is just too vanilla....I want some whipped cream and some sprinkles on top....

...is that they take time and expose you to other kinds of damage. All that stunting, twisting, slanting and looping elongates the path to the QB and opens rush lanes. Great stuff as a change of pace, but lousy as a staple.

Coughlin is right: there's no substitute for beating your guy one-on-one. Even against max-protect, somebody on the DL needs to win.

is to blame for the last two games.

That said, it bugs me to hear the mantra of the D is getting tired because they can't get off the field. Seems to me, that's the result of a bend, don't break, defense. you bend, you bend, you bend, you stay on the field and get tired. Couple that with an offense that is not designed to drag out the clock (or simply can't drag it out no matter how it's designed), you have a recipe for a tired defense that can't hold late in games because they're too tired.

If the Giants perform badly and/or if and when TC retires.

Follow kiwis comments, hes been making them sine 2011.

won't make it to November if the pass rush is non-existent.

You don't keep drafting pass rushing DE's not to attack the QB. It's ridiculous.

...depends on how the defense plays the rest of the season. They clearly lack the "passion" for the game as has been expressed publicly by a couple of defensive players. They are looking for lightning to strike, a spark...etc. It all means the same thing....they are all waiting for "something" to turn them on.

I think this is because instead of turning them lose like using the NASCAR package in days gone by, we are sending only 4 down lineman and dropping everybody back in coverage.

That's crazy. Absolutely crazy. That will never excite this defense. Turn them loose, gamble, turn the sleeping giants into a pack of crazed dogs. Fewell promised that when they hired him, and this year the defense is completely uninspired and it SHOWS,

...but he hates Fewells scheme?

Thomas strikes again! Who's camp did that one come from...Kiwis or his agent?

...was four down linemen who could win solo matchups.

an important game that will be lost this season
when we need and it willl involve one or more
of our linebackers getting beat because they are
not good enough

that make you wonder are people watching games or just following "group speak" ?..

i would really like to know when people talk about blitzing, what LB'ers are they sending and who is dropping back in coverage?..As bad as the LB'ers are, they need to stay right where they are..

And if the blitzes are hitting home, is it because the blitzer picked the wrong gap or maybe the offense were prepared for the blitz..There are many times when the Giants are being blitzed and they pick it up..

Here is the starting field position of the 5 TD's the defense has given up this season.

vs. Dallas
DAL 29 - TD
NYG 16 - TD

vs. Denver
NYG 40 - TD
DEN 47 - TD
NYG 36 - TD


4 of TD's where the opposing offense needed 53 yards or less.

3 drives starting inside the Giants 40.

Only 1 "long" TD drive.

The turnovers have put the defense in compromising positions. You can't keep saying "pick us up" each and every time the offense keep giving it to the other team.

has the bend but don't break philosophy. He protects the team against giving up "the Big Play." Yes, his defense is somewhat conservative and I would like to see more Blitz's at times, but he also coached a team to a Championship where we gave up few points to a very good offense.

I actually really liked what he did against Dallas. He sent Williams in (twice that I remember) to take on an offensive lineman, freeing up the DL. Essentially, WIlliams was "blocking" the OL allowing one of the DL to get to the QB. I don't think a sack was registered, but both times we hurried Tony's pass. I don't recall seeing this against Denver, but I only re-watched it once so maybe I missed it.


What I really think we need to do more of, is stunt after the snap with our DL. Denver did this a few times last week and it was really effective. I can't recall seeing us do this at all. The only thing our DL will do sometimes is move around during the cadence so the QB doesn't know where they are coming from. But I'd love to see some stunts after the snap.

All that being said, Fewell's job is in jeopardy this year. We were towards the bottom of total defense last year. That needs to vastly improve. We are now 2 seasons removed from a Championship so nobody outside of Reese/Coughlin/Eli etc. are grandfathered in. If we don't make the playoffs, I could see a change at DC coming.

Just because the D did not necessarily loose the first two games does not mean they played very well.

Just like people are posting that it has just been two games and to relax about the Offense you can say the same for the average defense that has been played. It has been only two games.

I have zero faith this defense can come up with a big stop in a big spot.

LB corps is Division III quality

Tuck is finished

JPP is out of shape and not 100%

We need guys that can actually rush the QB...and guys that can FLY to the ball like Seattle

think he's a very mediocre DC. That being said, this defense may need some new talent. Tuck is trying his damndest and is actually pretty healthy, yet hasn't produced much yet, at least. JPP, we all know isn't 100% yet. And as much as I like Kiwi, he's been thoroughly average. I don't know if moving him back and forth hurt him (probably has to a certain degree) or what, but he doesn't look very impressive, at least not yet.

So, I'm fine with replacing Perry at the end of the season, especially since this is the last season of his contract. But even if he is replaced, we need some new DEs.

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Watch the games.

Dallas was 5/15 on 3rd down.


Denver was much better, but it's Peyton Manning. That grade curve is different.

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Tuck

NASCAR works when the Giants OL is scoring touchdowns by owning the LOS, pounding the rock, passing efficiently and using the clock. Then NASCAR and attacking the QB with this DL works. Otherwise, this is what we get. A Perry Awful mess which is complimented by inferior OL play.

Love the GM but he created a mess by not adding more to the OL.

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Either

A. Doesn't actually watch the games
B. Watches the games but has no idea what they're looking at
C. Watches the ball only in the games

Tuck since the beginning of training camp has looked as good as he has in quite some time.

Which isn't hard to do, considering how bad they have been. I also think they are much more likely to get worse rather than better.

So to answer your question, Reese will not have a real reason to let him go until the second have of the season, and then its more likely that TC remains loyal to him through the end. Expect a change in week 18.

Keith Rivers blitzing in a 3-4,Cullen Jenkins at DE,and the opposite of the NASCAR package...The UHAUL 500.

I did witness Mike Patterson drop on Sunday,but it won't matter if I never see that again.

Do people watch the games? We've only played two so far, so it shouldn't be hard to remember.

1) Dallas, 4th Quarter, Giants kick a FG to make the score 30-24

Dallas ball with 8:47 left. The get a 1st down on a penalty and the Giants sack Romo twice. Dallas punts after losing 4 yards on the drive.

Giants get the ball on their own 45 yard line down by 6 with 5:49 to go. 3 and out.

2) Dallas ball on their own 20. Giants still down 6. Cowboys get 12 yards on 1st down and the Giants defense stops them on the next series of downs. Punt.

Giants get the ball on their own 17, down by 6, 2:41 to go. Eli throws an interception that's returned for a touchdown.

Are these not big stops? The defense handed the ball back to the offense twice in the last 6 minutes with a chance to win the game. Not only did the offense not win the game, they iced the game for the Cowboys. But they did manage to rack up a nice TD drive against a prevent defense.

Yes this season there has been only two, which is not a great sample to base on..

We have also watched the games last year and in previous under Fewell.

And while his defense has had its moments this defense is anything but good.. Do people watch the games?

we are not getting to the QB and if we don't when the O fixes its stupids focus will be back on our beloved D coordinator.

Don't worry, the time will come for Fewell frustration ! lol

but I'm more ready to believe it's the players, not the coach.

The answer isn't as simple as "We don't blitz enough". When we DO blitz, the LBs don't get there either.

to dominant on 1st and 2nd downs while under Fewell. 3rd down has been the killer. Perhaps he would be more successful in Canada.

The Giants had the best 3rd down defense in the NFL in 2010.

Try again.

I also heard that Fewell had a pretty good year one time in Buffalo. Not sure what year it was but i am sure there is a stat we can dig up to defend him.

As Jerry just pointed out, despite the offense completely fucking up in Week 1 with 5 turnovers the defense held their ground twice in the 4th quarter, stopping Dallas and giving the offense a chance to win the game. The offense failed.

And then in Week 2, against possibly the most prolific offense in the league this year, the defense held Manning and Broncos to 10 points going into halftime . . . meanwhile the offense continued to show incompetence in the redzone while only mustering up 9 points on 3 field goals at the half.

Anyone who wants to target Fewell at this point is barking up the wrong tree.

Certainly we have talent dropoff ... but what Spags did and Fewell does not is have a clear pressure package that we saw deployed.. and what i liked about it is the design to hide where pressure was coming from.

I get our defense is different and I hate what it is personally.. but the secondary this year has me encouraged ( they seem much improved ) which I feel was necessary to improve things... however...

I just wonder what happens if Tuck and JPP don't have near all-pro years and what we can do on defense to bring pressure.. I don't see the combination of PF/personnel getting it done and in the end after last year's performance PF will be facing the shit storm.

Our Run defense has been impressive however and that gives me hope. Assuming the offense gets its shit straight and we can stop the run you have to assume we will have some leads in games..

When that happens I think the writing will be on the wall at that point and if we can get to the QB then we are perhaps OK.

PF doesn't exactly bring a lot of spice and flavor.

But we're just not getting anything from DE.

I wasn't a fan of the defensive rotations last year. I don't know how you play JPP for so many snaps if you know he had a bad back and he's not effective rushing the passer. You carried the young guys for the whole season without really using them.

Offense is been far worse this season

Seen thus far in 2013. Will be interesting to see how he matches up. It's clear he's more comfortable in subs over base, likely because he views TT>3rd LB'er.

Can subs hold up vs. Carolina's 21/22 run game?
Can base with Herz at MLB?
Can base matchup with Carolina's play action game?

What is Perry's base? Big nickel or true 4-3?

let's wait until the bye, before we bring out the hanging rope....

But Coughlin is too loyal.

I just think someone needs to lite a fire under his ass. Be some talk about his job being in jeopardy. I re-watched Dallas game and really focused on our D. Bottom line is, you have to make opposing QB's uncomfortable, and minus a few blitzes that worked, we didn't do that. Peyton is a different animal but also about as immobile as a QB gets. Do you recall us getting in his face?
I wrote this thread after reading Tom Rock's article posted on this website. The defensive players (Tuck&Rolle specifically) are not liking the scheme. They don't feel like they are being aggressive and attacking like they would like to. Defensive players are by nature, attackers. They don't want to sit back and give, give, give.
I appreciate everyones comments, as I don't post very often. Lets go Giants! Big Week!

His D would never give up this many points in the first two games of a season.

Spags is a genius.

Fewell's body of work with the Giants Another lack luster year by the defense and he will be gone.

If they did, I missed it.

What were we ranked last year in passing and rushing defense? It was top 5 right?

I that clip, you noticed how Tuck and Kiwi both could not set the edge on those play.?..That's no fault of Fewell. That' individual match-ups that our DE's should be winning..

After all, no matter how badly the team plays, the coaches never have any responsibility. (Unless you believe Coughlin.)

But the 2013 Giants have been pretty uniformly sucky, it's certainly not limited to the D. But watching Fox's D I'm reminded of what a good D looks like. Fox, the old ba$tard, seems to take particular pleasure in beating the Giants. And it sadly reminds me of when his D as Giants D coordinator DID win games!

GMAN.. you mean that basic football stuff like not getting sealed off the edge isn't a schematic problem?

Nonsense. When in doubt, blame the scheme. To hell with maintaining simple responsibilities or winning 1 on 1 battles.

Paysinger in,Williams out

Problem solved

It looks like Rolle initiates contact with the lineman in the 1st one rather than move laterally towards the sideline which would have funneled the run back inside and probably prevented a TD.

My bad..sorry for making sense..

TD. The backside of the play 2 of their guys try to cut our backside guys pursuing. Thank god no one got hurt on that.

not ice the weakside linebacker is in no position to make a play because of hesitation or running in blockers..Both of those plays should have resulted in Moreno running out of bounds..The instincts just aren't there..

and the Jints hired him and true to form he is making the Jints defense the worst in the league. Fewell will go when Tom retires, which I believe will be this year, a new head coach is not going to keep this guy around.

Fewell deserves a little blame, but he doesn't deserve to be fired. Lack of good LB's and Stevey Brown going down, he simply doesn't have all the pieces he needs and not to mention the D. ends are playing horrible right now..

jintsfan, tell us more about how Cam Newton and Steve Smith are "usually good for 2 TD's against us" even though we've only played them one time and their TD total was 0.

in that second clip?

I see that too..But as slow as the LB'ers were going, they missed cut blocking them!..

They have no type of instincts, IMO..They don't sniff out plays..no anticipation, nothing..That's the problem with most of the LB-ers and with Kiwi right now..at least the secondary, the last 2 years, were producing turnovers..

LDE's losing vs a first year TE
MLB and Will slow to react, poor angles, caught in the wash
Corey Webster holy crap!
Wheres the FS?

First one is 11 personnel vs subs- nickel
Second is 12 vs. base.

Who's the sideline to sideline LB'er who can "fire his gun"

really shows how bad our LB's suck. Im sick of Fewell. Another loss giving up 30 plus points and I would ax him. Let one of our assitants run the D until we can pick a legit DC next year. What DC's will be available next year?

mmmm Rex Ryan I dare say? LOL. Honestly he wouldnt do I think but we would have a top ten defense

I'm not a Fewel fan but those who say he never blitzed, I noticed Mundy blitzing on at least a few occasions. Mostly when Denver ran the ball.

I would not have a problem with Fewel being replaced, especially in light of the players being less than enthusiastic about the system. Wonder what Lovie Smith is doing??

when will fewells job be in danger? Other than bradshaw44 noone dared answer, and his answer was stupid, (5 years),meaning he believes the gianys would go 0-80 before fewell got fired.i dont think that's realistic.

Before we answer the question, we must ask what other changes would NY make first.
Would they bench the QB first? -don't think so
Would they fire the OC first? -Prolly not
Would they fire the HC first? -doubtful
Would they bench other players first,or fire them?-likely

assuming a mess of players get released or benched first, at what point then does fewell get fired?
0-5?
0-7?
0-10?

seriously, who dares answer? The answer can also take the form of " After the QB" or "After the HC" if you really feel that's how long he would stick.

I ask the OPs question again, and would be nice if the posters actually answered it as opposed to treating as a virtual impossibility. It was a theoretical question to begin with. No harm in giving a theoretical answer.

Unless of course you truly believe we go 0-80 before we replace the DC.

Defense has mostly been good to very good, made the stops when they had to despite the offense's troubles, and held Peyton and the Broncos in check until the offense & STs (Weatherford) became too much of a burden to carry

No one "dared" answer because the answer should be obvious.

If the defense has a bad year, Fewell won't be back. If they improve and play relatively well, he will be.

His job IS in jeopardy. This is the final year of his deal.

That's a solid answer. The Giants finished 12th last year in points. Considering it's a bend/don't break system, the D did what it was supposed to do pretty well & better than 20 other teams, most of which didn't fire their DC.

The thing that's astonishly stupid is that most of BBI blames Fewell for a suckass D last year & wants him gone even though those same people thought all the LBs sucked royally at everything (run, pass coverage, blitzing) & couldn't make a Division III college team; the DL vastly underperformed b/c Tuck was done or too injured to be effective, JPP was very likely too injured to be the stud he'd been, Canty missed most of the year due to injury & sucked when he got back, Bernard was useless, Kuhn was on IR halfway through, Joseph was petered out by the end of the year, Osi couldn't play the run worth shit & took the long route to China to get to the QB; Webster was done or too injured to be effective, TT missed the entire year, Rolle was out of position, Hosley sucked & numerous backup CBs were on IR. Stevie Brown was the only star, yet even he blew coverages left & right & was dogshit against the run.

Considering ALL the defensive players but one sucked or were too injured to be the studs they'd been in previous years, how is it that a DC much better than Fewell could have gotten these dregs of the earth to play so much better?

When I see threads like this one.

this season because they brought Fewell back.

Who did you want them to hire instead?

they're giving up yards, but not many big plays. They've only given up 4 plays over 20+ yds and none of over 40+ yds this year

I would've taken that defense last year without question. Last year was break, break, then bend in the red zone. We just need those turnovers from the defense

should decline as the year goes on. Denver team is probably going to be the best offense they're going to play all year.

The points allowed should naturally shoot down if the offense gets their shit together

you can't have a read-and-react offense AND a read-and-react defense...basically, you're letting the other team dictate how the game will be played instead of imposing your will on the other team...it worked well with Spags and having an aggressive attacking defense paired up with Gilbride.

to find ways to create a pass rush. If the front 4 can't get it done create blitzpackages that can get home for once. I hate seeing all 4 DL get stopped and if by some chance someone blitzed they get picked up too. Come up with ways to get home to the QB.

har to create a pass rush when you LB'ers have no instincts and slow..You can keep blitzing CB's and that is going to leave your secondary short..

easy to say being creative but if you only have mayonaisse, it is hard to make a sandwich..

do you really think they will let him finish out the year if the defense continues to look like this?I would think it would have to show a marked improvement by the bye.

My tone was shitty, but that's my attitude towards the way this team is playing right now.

And the the Giants would have won both games, this talk wouldn't even been happening. It would be how the defense has improved..

What amazes me more is that people SEE that the LB'ers aren't very good, JPP is still not ready, and the DE's are not playing good at all and STILL want to blame Fewell!!..

Un-fucking-beleivable..

roll with it, or you'll go nuts..er, nuttier.

Yeah, you're right..

Ron Rivera could become available, would you take him over Fewell ??
Seems too have good history working with linebackers.

Quote:

In 1999, Rivera was named linebackers coach for the Philadelphia Eagles. During his tenure the Eagles advanced to the NFC Championship for three consecutive seasons. He is credited with developing linebacker Jeremiah Trotter into a two-time Pro Bowl performer. On January 23, 2004, Rivera was named the Chicago Bears Defensive Coordinator. In 2005, the Chicago Bears defense was rated second-best in the NFL. In 2006, the Bears’ defensive efforts failed to match the success of their 2005 season. Nevertheless, the team was still a notable presence in league, finishing with the league’s third ranked and conference’s top-ranked points allowed category.[2] The defense’s success earned Rivera recognition among franchises looking for new head coaches.

The defense hasn't been anywhere near as bad as you seem to think they've been so far.

If the D continues to play this way, Fewell shouldn't be canned because we will win most games where the O plays reasonably well and doesn't give the ball away.

That doesn't mean you stop trying. Factor is our LBs under Fewell haven't done a good job getting pressure. When we do blitz they get stone walled by opposing offensive linemen. The front 4 is ineffective as well. Something needs to be done. You just don't stop blitzed just because our LBs are below average to average. That just means it falls on Fewell to fond ways via Xs and Is to out scheme his counter part. The philosophy of Fewell is rely on the front 4. That can't happen because as we see now we need to supplement pressure in some way. Send different people to keep opposingooffensive linemen on their heels.

It doesn't help either to be fair that teams are getting rid of the ball quicker via dink and dunk. Overall, except for that Fewells D hasn't been a shit show. That's the offense who needs to get their heads out their asses.

Wouldn't that fall on Reese's lap if the team doesn;t have the LB's to get the mission accomnplished?. That like saying the offense should be able to run regardless if the OL sucks donkey dunk..

if you don't have the right personnel, you can'd do the job. I guess you will be eequally pissed of if the starting WR's were jernigan, Barden and Murphy and they couldn't score more than 14 points a game?

Reese and Ross have a philosophy. They are sticking to it. He was on Espn radio and basically said how they had two different LB corps when they won and asked the guys to name them. They had trouble. So he proved his point in that regard.

Now, as a coach, you can't worry about that. Your job is to make it work. If that means via Xs and Os then so be it. In fact if they feel the LB corps is void of talent then you need to find other ways of making it work. Throwing in the towel is not an option.

The offense has to find a way to run. If that means passing to set up the run or changing your Xs and Os, from running BOB running schemes vs pulls, traps, power, power G, G, and center then so be it. You need to find ways to run. This is what coaches have to come up with in their offensive staff meetings. This is the stuff that went on with the staff I was on. This is how it went down when I was working with the Falcons. You have to do the job no matter what. If you feel the personnel quality isn't there, you still need to be creative enough to find a way. This is what all levels of coaching entails. I saw this on my staff, on the falcons staff, and when I worked a clinic with the Cowboys staff. Make it work! Be creative enough to find ways to get whatever you need to work, to work.

Schools have vaults of clinics on video and dvd on installing different offense and concepts. NFL teams have rooms of endless tape. So go back to the drawing board, and find ways to get something going that's not working.

If those WRs are the starting WRs, then obviously they are not starting for a reason. Talent? Not digesting the choose and option routes? If they are my starting WRs then we need to adjust and find ways to get them comfortable. Does that mean installing what they are all comfortable in executing? Sure, that's how I would approach it. What if they are not digesting the sight adjustments properly? Well, maybe for this week, I simplify things until my starters can get healthy. Fact is, I can't throw the towel in. In fact, when shit hits the fan, I prefer to sit in a room and solve the issue. It may not be perfect, but personally man, that's why I loved coaching. Find a way and do it. It's been like 7 years, but that's what I miss.

I just really don't like his schemes, I didn't like the hire, he does some good things but it just makes me feel like I'm watching Rod Rusts defense out there.

It's almost like he asks the D to figure everything out for themselves, and while I don't deny his playcalling puts them in the situation to do that, I just think the burden falls on the players to an extent whereby they do more reading than reacting, and certainly don't do much to dictate tempo or initiative.

Yes, it puts them in a position to capitalize on turnovers, but god forbid they miss the opportunity then the rest of the game is bending and hoping they don't break. I don't like the tradeoff.

It's a scheme that works great with healthy vets who know what they are doing.Injured guys have too much ground to account for and noobs get pwned.It's not initiative based gameplay and sometimes I just don't think he has the players for his schemes, but goes ahead with them anyway as opposed to adapting, which I think it would be hard to argue that's something he is good at.His offenses do OK in spurts, or when they are overloaded with talent and health at a particular position, but what D-line wouldn't do well with a healthy Osi, Tuck, JPP and Kiwi???He doesn't create much pressure at the line, by scheme, and the communications issues just have me wondering what's going on, which is how his DBs look far too often.

No they aren't terrible and they were in both games, but they aren't impressive. It's not just particular performances, I don't like that whole style of defense he calls.Too much time on the field, too much thinking required of the DBs, too much dependent on turnovers for my taste.I just don't enjoy watching it.It aggravates me watching opposing offenses move up and down the field consistenly whislt hoping for a turnover.