When will Fewell's job be in jeopardy?

Which isn't hard to do, considering how bad they have been. I also think they are much more likely to get worse rather than better.

So to answer your question, Reese will not have a real reason to let him go until the second have of the season, and then its more likely that TC remains loyal to him through the end. Expect a change in week 18.

Keith Rivers blitzing in a 3-4,Cullen Jenkins at DE,and the opposite of the NASCAR package...The UHAUL 500.

I did witness Mike Patterson drop on Sunday,but it won't matter if I never see that again.

Do people watch the games? We've only played two so far, so it shouldn't be hard to remember.

1) Dallas, 4th Quarter, Giants kick a FG to make the score 30-24

Dallas ball with 8:47 left. The get a 1st down on a penalty and the Giants sack Romo twice. Dallas punts after losing 4 yards on the drive.

Giants get the ball on their own 45 yard line down by 6 with 5:49 to go. 3 and out.

2) Dallas ball on their own 20. Giants still down 6. Cowboys get 12 yards on 1st down and the Giants defense stops them on the next series of downs. Punt.

Giants get the ball on their own 17, down by 6, 2:41 to go. Eli throws an interception that's returned for a touchdown.

Are these not big stops? The defense handed the ball back to the offense twice in the last 6 minutes with a chance to win the game. Not only did the offense not win the game, they iced the game for the Cowboys. But they did manage to rack up a nice TD drive against a prevent defense.

Yes this season there has been only two, which is not a great sample to base on..

We have also watched the games last year and in previous under Fewell.

And while his defense has had its moments this defense is anything but good.. Do people watch the games?

we are not getting to the QB and if we don't when the O fixes its stupids focus will be back on our beloved D coordinator.

Don't worry, the time will come for Fewell frustration ! lol

but I'm more ready to believe it's the players, not the coach.

The answer isn't as simple as "We don't blitz enough". When we DO blitz, the LBs don't get there either.

to dominant on 1st and 2nd downs while under Fewell. 3rd down has been the killer. Perhaps he would be more successful in Canada.

The Giants had the best 3rd down defense in the NFL in 2010.

Try again.

I also heard that Fewell had a pretty good year one time in Buffalo. Not sure what year it was but i am sure there is a stat we can dig up to defend him.

As Jerry just pointed out, despite the offense completely fucking up in Week 1 with 5 turnovers the defense held their ground twice in the 4th quarter, stopping Dallas and giving the offense a chance to win the game. The offense failed.

And then in Week 2, against possibly the most prolific offense in the league this year, the defense held Manning and Broncos to 10 points going into halftime . . . meanwhile the offense continued to show incompetence in the redzone while only mustering up 9 points on 3 field goals at the half.

Anyone who wants to target Fewell at this point is barking up the wrong tree.

Certainly we have talent dropoff ... but what Spags did and Fewell does not is have a clear pressure package that we saw deployed.. and what i liked about it is the design to hide where pressure was coming from.

I get our defense is different and I hate what it is personally.. but the secondary this year has me encouraged ( they seem much improved ) which I feel was necessary to improve things... however...

I just wonder what happens if Tuck and JPP don't have near all-pro years and what we can do on defense to bring pressure.. I don't see the combination of PF/personnel getting it done and in the end after last year's performance PF will be facing the shit storm.

Our Run defense has been impressive however and that gives me hope. Assuming the offense gets its shit straight and we can stop the run you have to assume we will have some leads in games..

When that happens I think the writing will be on the wall at that point and if we can get to the QB then we are perhaps OK.

PF doesn't exactly bring a lot of spice and flavor.

But we're just not getting anything from DE.

I wasn't a fan of the defensive rotations last year. I don't know how you play JPP for so many snaps if you know he had a bad back and he's not effective rushing the passer. You carried the young guys for the whole season without really using them.

Offense is been far worse this season

Seen thus far in 2013. Will be interesting to see how he matches up. It's clear he's more comfortable in subs over base, likely because he views TT>3rd LB'er.

Can subs hold up vs. Carolina's 21/22 run game?
Can base with Herz at MLB?
Can base matchup with Carolina's play action game?

What is Perry's base? Big nickel or true 4-3?

let's wait until the bye, before we bring out the hanging rope....

But Coughlin is too loyal.

I just think someone needs to lite a fire under his ass. Be some talk about his job being in jeopardy. I re-watched Dallas game and really focused on our D. Bottom line is, you have to make opposing QB's uncomfortable, and minus a few blitzes that worked, we didn't do that. Peyton is a different animal but also about as immobile as a QB gets. Do you recall us getting in his face?
I wrote this thread after reading Tom Rock's article posted on this website. The defensive players (Tuck&Rolle specifically) are not liking the scheme. They don't feel like they are being aggressive and attacking like they would like to. Defensive players are by nature, attackers. They don't want to sit back and give, give, give.
I appreciate everyones comments, as I don't post very often. Lets go Giants! Big Week!

His D would never give up this many points in the first two games of a season.

Spags is a genius.

Fewell's body of work with the Giants Another lack luster year by the defense and he will be gone.

If they did, I missed it.

What were we ranked last year in passing and rushing defense? It was top 5 right?

I that clip, you noticed how Tuck and Kiwi both could not set the edge on those play.?..That's no fault of Fewell. That' individual match-ups that our DE's should be winning..

After all, no matter how badly the team plays, the coaches never have any responsibility. (Unless you believe Coughlin.)

But the 2013 Giants have been pretty uniformly sucky, it's certainly not limited to the D. But watching Fox's D I'm reminded of what a good D looks like. Fox, the old ba$tard, seems to take particular pleasure in beating the Giants. And it sadly reminds me of when his D as Giants D coordinator DID win games!

GMAN.. you mean that basic football stuff like not getting sealed off the edge isn't a schematic problem?

Nonsense. When in doubt, blame the scheme. To hell with maintaining simple responsibilities or winning 1 on 1 battles.

Paysinger in,Williams out

Problem solved

It looks like Rolle initiates contact with the lineman in the 1st one rather than move laterally towards the sideline which would have funneled the run back inside and probably prevented a TD.

My bad..sorry for making sense..

TD. The backside of the play 2 of their guys try to cut our backside guys pursuing. Thank god no one got hurt on that.

not ice the weakside linebacker is in no position to make a play because of hesitation or running in blockers..Both of those plays should have resulted in Moreno running out of bounds..The instincts just aren't there..

and the Jints hired him and true to form he is making the Jints defense the worst in the league. Fewell will go when Tom retires, which I believe will be this year, a new head coach is not going to keep this guy around.

Fewell deserves a little blame, but he doesn't deserve to be fired. Lack of good LB's and Stevey Brown going down, he simply doesn't have all the pieces he needs and not to mention the D. ends are playing horrible right now..

jintsfan, tell us more about how Cam Newton and Steve Smith are "usually good for 2 TD's against us" even though we've only played them one time and their TD total was 0.

in that second clip?

I see that too..But as slow as the LB'ers were going, they missed cut blocking them!..

They have no type of instincts, IMO..They don't sniff out plays..no anticipation, nothing..That's the problem with most of the LB-ers and with Kiwi right now..at least the secondary, the last 2 years, were producing turnovers..

LDE's losing vs a first year TE
MLB and Will slow to react, poor angles, caught in the wash
Corey Webster holy crap!
Wheres the FS?

First one is 11 personnel vs subs- nickel
Second is 12 vs. base.

Who's the sideline to sideline LB'er who can "fire his gun"

really shows how bad our LB's suck. Im sick of Fewell. Another loss giving up 30 plus points and I would ax him. Let one of our assitants run the D until we can pick a legit DC next year. What DC's will be available next year?

mmmm Rex Ryan I dare say? LOL. Honestly he wouldnt do I think but we would have a top ten defense

I'm not a Fewel fan but those who say he never blitzed, I noticed Mundy blitzing on at least a few occasions. Mostly when Denver ran the ball.

I would not have a problem with Fewel being replaced, especially in light of the players being less than enthusiastic about the system. Wonder what Lovie Smith is doing??

when will fewells job be in danger? Other than bradshaw44 noone dared answer, and his answer was stupid, (5 years),meaning he believes the gianys would go 0-80 before fewell got fired.i dont think that's realistic.

Before we answer the question, we must ask what other changes would NY make first.
Would they bench the QB first? -don't think so
Would they fire the OC first? -Prolly not
Would they fire the HC first? -doubtful
Would they bench other players first,or fire them?-likely

assuming a mess of players get released or benched first, at what point then does fewell get fired?
0-5?
0-7?
0-10?

seriously, who dares answer? The answer can also take the form of " After the QB" or "After the HC" if you really feel that's how long he would stick.

I ask the OPs question again, and would be nice if the posters actually answered it as opposed to treating as a virtual impossibility. It was a theoretical question to begin with. No harm in giving a theoretical answer.

Unless of course you truly believe we go 0-80 before we replace the DC.

Defense has mostly been good to very good, made the stops when they had to despite the offense's troubles, and held Peyton and the Broncos in check until the offense & STs (Weatherford) became too much of a burden to carry

No one "dared" answer because the answer should be obvious.

If the defense has a bad year, Fewell won't be back. If they improve and play relatively well, he will be.

His job IS in jeopardy. This is the final year of his deal.

That's a solid answer. The Giants finished 12th last year in points. Considering it's a bend/don't break system, the D did what it was supposed to do pretty well & better than 20 other teams, most of which didn't fire their DC.

The thing that's astonishly stupid is that most of BBI blames Fewell for a suckass D last year & wants him gone even though those same people thought all the LBs sucked royally at everything (run, pass coverage, blitzing) & couldn't make a Division III college team; the DL vastly underperformed b/c Tuck was done or too injured to be effective, JPP was very likely too injured to be the stud he'd been, Canty missed most of the year due to injury & sucked when he got back, Bernard was useless, Kuhn was on IR halfway through, Joseph was petered out by the end of the year, Osi couldn't play the run worth shit & took the long route to China to get to the QB; Webster was done or too injured to be effective, TT missed the entire year, Rolle was out of position, Hosley sucked & numerous backup CBs were on IR. Stevie Brown was the only star, yet even he blew coverages left & right & was dogshit against the run.

Considering ALL the defensive players but one sucked or were too injured to be the studs they'd been in previous years, how is it that a DC much better than Fewell could have gotten these dregs of the earth to play so much better?

When I see threads like this one.

this season because they brought Fewell back.

Who did you want them to hire instead?

they're giving up yards, but not many big plays. They've only given up 4 plays over 20+ yds and none of over 40+ yds this year

I would've taken that defense last year without question. Last year was break, break, then bend in the red zone. We just need those turnovers from the defense

should decline as the year goes on. Denver team is probably going to be the best offense they're going to play all year.

The points allowed should naturally shoot down if the offense gets their shit together

you can't have a read-and-react offense AND a read-and-react defense...basically, you're letting the other team dictate how the game will be played instead of imposing your will on the other team...it worked well with Spags and having an aggressive attacking defense paired up with Gilbride.

to find ways to create a pass rush. If the front 4 can't get it done create blitzpackages that can get home for once. I hate seeing all 4 DL get stopped and if by some chance someone blitzed they get picked up too. Come up with ways to get home to the QB.

har to create a pass rush when you LB'ers have no instincts and slow..You can keep blitzing CB's and that is going to leave your secondary short..

easy to say being creative but if you only have mayonaisse, it is hard to make a sandwich..

do you really think they will let him finish out the year if the defense continues to look like this?I would think it would have to show a marked improvement by the bye.

My tone was shitty, but that's my attitude towards the way this team is playing right now.