I was having this discussion with a friend. Would you prefer the Giants to go 5-11, 6-10 OR go all the way to the superbowl and lose on a missed FG ala Norwood?
5-11 seasons fade with time. All you have to do is look into the eyes of anyone from Buffalo when you bring up football to know what a Norwood-type loss does to a person.
The Kanell/Graham/Brown years have faded for me. Super Bowl XXXV, Flipper Anderson, and '08 have not.
I'd always choose heartbreak, but given what this team is right now, a disaster season that yields a top 5 pick would be better for the team in the long run. The Giants could use a top talent on the OL or the defense.
I would prefer the bad season so we could look forward to some better draft picks. But for the sake of the many giants fans that can't eat or think after a loss I'll hope for a heartbreaking end this way they won't have to endure so many losses.
At least we'd be in it the whole season. Good for the fans and something for the team to build upon.
That said, this team has so far shown it doesn't deserve a heartbreak ending.
of the games. I always would prefer going to the Super Bowl and losing. It means you had an extra month of enjoyment and entertainment. Nothing is worse than meaningless football in December. I don't get why people have such a hard time getting over SB XXXV. That was such a debacle i got over it in a hurry. The San Fran playoff loss? That one still stings. That having been said I'll live with one season going very south, and getting good draft picks.
don't matter much as long as Perry Fewell and Kevin Gilbride are calling the plays. We need to get more out of the players and these clowns aren't getting it done. I suspect there's too much "thinking" going on out there on the field. The players should be let loose to do what got them drafted in the first place.
over complete suckitude every single day of the week and twice on Sundays. I view fandom as entertainment with an emotional investment and I see no downside of a season's worth of positives that end in heartbreaker as both entertainment and emotional investment have happened.
I suppose I might feel differently if the Giants hadn't won the whole thing before but after last weeks loss, I don't want to delve further into the recollections of the 70's.
I prefer the question: Bad season or 9 wins and missing PO's?
My answer: It depends on what kind of team we are talking about (young team building for future, older team on it's last hurrah, or somewhere in between).
But for this NYGiants team, I would much rather endure a crappy season that yields big changes and a high draft pick than have another 8-9 win season where we miss the PO's but think everything is ok as is.
If it's between a bad season and just missing the playoffs
If we get a top 5 pick, then we seriously have to gut the whole roster, and those higher picks probably won't make much of a difference. If we can turn this around this year and find a way to be competitive, than a later 1st round pick and couple free agent moves can help us compete next year. Hell i know i'm in the minority, but i don't think we're out of this thing yet... aside from all the mistakes, we were competitive in weeks 1 and 2, for the most part anyway.
Ask Colts fans which is the more painful memory: losing to the Saints in the SB, or the "Playoffs?!? PLAYOFFS?@?! You wanna talk about Playoffs?!?" season.
have a good season than a bad season. Going to the SB, winning playoff games, winning big regular season games - it's great.
I loved the 2000 season despite the major disappointment at the end. Those playoff games were absolutely awesome. I loved the Mets 2000 and 2006 seasons, the Rangers making the conference finals 2 years ago and beating the Caps each of the last two years. That game 7 stomping last year was brilliant - I was thrilled during and after that game. These things are fun, getting fired up for big games, winning some big game - there are things to enjoy in sports other than winning titles.
But there are times when I'd rather have a terrible season than a mediocre one. Certainly that applies in the NBA and it applies to this year's Giants. I'm still rooting for the playoffs, but if I had to choose between 7-9 and 3-13, I'd go with the high draft pick.
is better than a bad season. At least there are enjoyable weeks. I have been looking forward to this since January, and the season has been a complete debacle. On top of that, i spend a ot of money on season Tix.
But this is worst case scenario. I don't think any of us saw this team being THIS bad.
...that said, I would enjoy watching a bad team more than a frustrating team. That team that seems to just let the game slip away, or looks poised to do something and then spits the bit. I could see this team 0-3 right now win the next 8 and then lose out the season, only missing the play-offs by losing in the final game by allowing the game winning 20 yard field goal be blocked and returned the other way for a touchdown causing the team to miss the play-offs. That would just be torture, but I can see it happening this year, the football gods can be just that cruel.
This is really a question?
The playoffs are a special time.
The Kanell/Graham/Brown years have faded for me. Super Bowl XXXV, Flipper Anderson, and '08 have not.
If you were a Bills fan would you have preferred it if the didn't go to any of those 4 super bowls?
but 5 or 6 wins versus 2? I'll just take the medicine and accept a 2 win season.
That said, this team has so far shown it doesn't deserve a heartbreak ending.
I'd rather that then 6-10.
Football is entertainment. Entertain me.
Right now, I feel like the next three months are not going to be very much fun because we won't be in the race, or winning a lot of games.
I do see 4-5-6 wins as a very realistic possibility.
I suppose I might feel differently if the Giants hadn't won the whole thing before but after last weeks loss, I don't want to delve further into the recollections of the 70's.
But for this NYGiants team, I would much rather endure a crappy season that yields big changes and a high draft pick than have another 8-9 win season where we miss the PO's but think everything is ok as is.
But when it comes to postseason heartbreak, that is tough to deal with. The Super Bowl in particular...if you get there, you better win it.
But that loss to Philly in '08. Christ, I can't shake that one.
1988, 2002, 2010 stay with you. Who remembers 1996.
I don't recall a single thing-outside of the Westbrook punt return & Horn cell phone incident-of the '03 season.
So, bad season. By far.
I've got a really busy autumn/winter ramping up and could do without the distraction of caring.
I loved the 2000 season despite the major disappointment at the end. Those playoff games were absolutely awesome. I loved the Mets 2000 and 2006 seasons, the Rangers making the conference finals 2 years ago and beating the Caps each of the last two years. That game 7 stomping last year was brilliant - I was thrilled during and after that game. These things are fun, getting fired up for big games, winning some big game - there are things to enjoy in sports other than winning titles.
But there are times when I'd rather have a terrible season than a mediocre one. Certainly that applies in the NBA and it applies to this year's Giants. I'm still rooting for the playoffs, but if I had to choose between 7-9 and 3-13, I'd go with the high draft pick.
But this is worst case scenario. I don't think any of us saw this team being THIS bad.
No wait, really?