Just curious what the prevailing opinions are regarding actual decision-making for the GM spot. There's been a lot of criticism of Reese over the past few weeks, some of it rather vigorous, but I haven't seen many people actually calling for his head.
Say we win 5 or 6 games this year, do people want to go in another direction at GM?
but the untouchable luster for reese has faded if this team doesn't turn it around this year. this is no longer the team that people scout for the guys cut, this is the team scouting other teams cuts for players.
his seat is and should be a lot warmer.
The hits and misses of other GMs don't get mentioned because we're not fans of those other teams. As has been said her many a time...go take an in-depth look at the drafting history of all the other teams around the league and you tell me who's done THAT much better than Reese?
Honsetly, the very thought that his 'seat should be getting warmer' doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me but I can at least somewhat understand where that may come from and don't have an issue with that stance. But anyone who thinks he should be fired...well, let's just say that's a guy I hope I never have to share a foxhole with.
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Experience? Really? Since when is RB a developmental position? When you draft an RB in the first round, you expect him to produce from day one. Instead, we get a bumper crop of missed holes, running into blockers, whiffing on blitzers, fumbles and tears.
When Wilson starts to produce against someone other than the 2012 Saints defense, I'll change my tune. Until then, I stand by my assessment.
I'll tell you...because there's not one person on this site who's not SHOCKED at the fact that the team is 0-3 but also in the way they've looked in getting there. You don't think Reese is just as shocked? Someone posted a list of some of Reese's moves and for every move that turned out negative it was his fault but every move that turned out positive was 'luck' on his part. And you mean to tell me that's right? That's fair? Yeah sure...now three weeks into the season everyone can play arm-chair GM and say what THEY would've done differently but there were very few people on this site that didn't have a very strong opinion that the team would do well this season. Unfortunately, so far, that hasn't been the case. So we start discussing him being fired and whatnot 3 weeks into the season?
There's a lot of blame to go around for this team's recent failures, but any blame that the GM is to share is definitely not near the top of the list.
At OL, he needs a more consistent influx of young talent.
In no way am I saying he is a poor GM. He has some holes in his game and he needs to figure out how to fix them. Right now he seems to be doing the same thing every year with those challenges and expecting different results.
I'll leave the method up to the powers that be. This team needs fresh blood. I doubt they will fire Reese or Coughlin. But they need to make some major adjustments.
Who expected him to start day 1? You, because he was drafted at the back end of the first round? Clearly the coaches did not agree with you? He didn't produce right away so he sucks? I know the Giants season looks bleak but does that mean we should throw rational thinking out the window.
Every problem Wilson has that you are claiming makes him untalented is a correctable mistake commonly made by young backs.
You are ignoring facts when you say he is not talented. His speed, power for a small guy, and "wiggle" make him talented. There is no denying it.
Just a silly thing to even consider.
2003 - Suggs-1,K. Boller-1, M. Smith-3, J. Johnson-4, O. Mugheli
2004 - D. Edwards-2, D.Darling-3,
2005 - M. Clayton-1, D. Cody-2, A. Terry-2, J. Brown-4
2006 - H. Ngata-1, C. Chester-2, D. Pittman-3, D. Williams-4, PJ Daniels-4
2007 - B. Grubbs-1, Y. Figures-2, M. Yanda-2, L. McClain-4
2008 - J. Flacco-1, R. Rice-2, T. Gooden-3, T. Szibkowski-3,
O. Cousins-3, M. Smith-4, D. Hale-4
2009 - M. Oher-1, P. Kruger-2, L. Webb-3
2010 - S. Kindle-2, T. Cody-2, E. Dickson-3, D. Pitta-4
2011 - J. Smith-1, T. Smith-2, J. Reid-3, T Doss-4
The TE's & Webb are good, but miss more time than they play. He caught lightning with M. Birk and McKinnie off the scrap heap
His best pick could very well be his 1st in Suggs
The fact that the sentiment seems to be he shouldn't be fired shows this group of fans is a bit more reasonable than most.
No fan, reasonable or not, needs to ask this question after an 0-3 start.
We get mad at the players for seemingly quitting on the field and yet are very quick to quit on the GM, coaches and players at the drop of an 0-3 start. I just hope the GM, coaches and players have more fight in them than some of these 'fans'.
Unless he is blind it is evident that certain units could have used more attention. Hindsight is 20/20 and he will learn from this.
Why fire (or even consider firing) a young promising GM when he makes his first major mistakes? The logical conclusion would be in this situation most young GMs would learn a lot through a season like this.
Sometimes more
They were joint successes before, and it's a joint failure now. I think the entire organization needs to scout itself a bit more competently.
Look at the game day threads and you see how knee jerk many are. There were people on the game day thread of the last Super Bowl calling for Gilbride's termination and people said TC lost the team. It's insane. But don't let it bother you.
I live in Phily. If this was an Eagles board there would be 30 threads on firing the GM now before the next game because they would genuinly think it would fix the problem.
Maybe my perspective on reasonable fans is a bit skewed because of where I live. But this place on it's worst days in like a MENSA convention compared to what I am exposed to on a daily basis.
It's difficult to completely evaluate Reese without seeing his fingerprints on a hand chosen coaching staff. And since Marc Ross came on, who's to say he shouldn't shoulder some of the purported blame.
I would hope, if it ever came to a coaching change, Reese would go for a young, aggressive, and most importantly flexibly minded coach willing to tailor systems and gameplans to the strengths of the players (and weaknesses of opponents) rather than, "Hey this is what Warren Moon ran 25 years ago, do this and don't veer off course, well, cause I know better."
I'm being over the top and half joking in the last sentence, but the point is not to smash the round peg into the square hole because your married to your offensive ideology.
After all, that's the kind of rigid mentality that starts wars of many scales - countries on countries, teams with themselves, and players with their confidence.
I've been very hard on Reese in the past an almost a knee jerk way to counter the "In Reese we trust mantra." But I do think he will fix this mess, just not this year.
whom btw, the giants had a 1st round grade on. they easily could have took sintim at 29. disturbing.
I agree with this. We are not drafting FOOTBALL PLAYERS. Sometimes, the best football player is not the fastest. If Ronnie Lott were 21 again and was at the combine, the Giants would never draft him based upon what they see on the surface physically. What you cannot measure is a players football IQ and his competitive nature. Show me a DB who is really fast but does not know where to be, and I will show you a DB who gets himself out of position...really fast. The same can be said for every other position. What is the point of having a speedy guy at LB if he does not know enough to contain the edge on a run play? Just look at Belichik. He finds FOOTBALL PLAYERS. The guys he has had on that patriots team over the years have often not been players that would stand out on a physical stat sheet. They must have been one of the only teams going after Welker from Miami. Their defense has been made up of players who were SMART and tough. Their RBs have not been stellar but they make plays. Faulk, woodhead, etc... all would kill you one way or another and tough smart players.
I seriously question our philosophy and also our ability to find NFL "football players".
He's excruciatingly prepared, he's obsessive to the point of illness, but he's also stubborn as a mule and the same guy who hired Tim Lewis and Bill Sheridan and refused to get rid of them until he caught organizational pressure from above when it was obviously not working.
Continues to rely on trusted veterans who don't return that trust, made the poor mistake of allowing the Matt Dodge experiment run it's course, will not be moved to touch the offense even when the Quarterback is shell-shocked from being sacked and just giving up on plays so as to not be hit again.
He'd never fire a handpicked guy who'd been part of the coaching staff just based off one year no matter how bad it was.