he will refute what Chase said and deny the Panthers knew what was coming.
Gilbride is the type of guy who believes he is smarter than everyone else which explains why his in game adjustments are so poor and why he also does not change calls or make adjustments when facing an opponent who has an ex-giant on that team.
To me, it is Gilbride's major failing as a OC...his arrogance.
You said it best!! If Gilbride is OC next year, I won't be watching the Giants. I knew on the first damn drive, chase gave them some good info about the offense.
that the OC is the fault here? He has shortcomings as does every coach, but we should have been planning better for Diehl and Snee falling off their respective cliffs because with a solid line Wilson and the 3 Amigos at WR would thrive.
He may not be the only issue. He is a veteran coach, if he needs me make big time adjustments to his scheme to compensate for what's going on then he needs to do it. The question is will he? It seems like the attitude is this is our offense, we will win or lose with it. Fuck, run something different to help generate momentum.
With Tim Carter and Mario, weren't we running reverses often? Do something different as a tendency breaker. Something has to change, let's see or hear what both coordinators have to say today.
Gilbride will be OC next year unless Coach Coughlin retires... Â
of two title teams, the second of which was carried completely by the offense, doesn't get Gilbride a head coaching position, I'm thinking his window is slammed shut.
Patricia Traina ‏@Patricia_Traina 4m
Bass, Snee, not at practice. Also not working are Robinson, Williams, Thomas, Webster. Taylor and Paysinger look like they're a go.
Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 4m
On Chris Snee, hearing it's "certainly" not looking good for this week. He's still pretty sore.
Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 5m
Paysinger/Taylor were practicing.
Paul Schwartz ‏@NYPost_Schwartz 5m
TE Adrien Robinson and CB Terrell Thomas also not practicing. Baas and Snee weren't even on the field. #nyg
Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN 7m
LB Spencer Paysinger, S Cooper Taylor, and T David Diehl were all practicing. #NYG
Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday 9m
Adrien Robinson is not practicing. Has a boot on his left foot.
Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday 9m
Diehl is practicing. Working as a scout team DL in individual drills for a bit before switching back to o-line.
Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday 9m
Webster, Williams, Thomas on the bikes.
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 3m
Giants' battered OL vs the Chiefs' defensive front. Woo boy.
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 4m
Per Giants' writers, G Chris Snee + C David Baas not on the field for today's practice. Expect at least one - maybe both - to sit out Sun.
the coming offseason, the Giants have to rid themselves of high-priced veterans who are underperforming, but they also have to dump these guys who just are hurt all of the time.
that's what BBI wants, but that group is so green it will get its ass kicked too. Just wait for the stunts and blitzes to confuse the hell out of them.
seemed to hold up well enough on opening night. So really all you're asking is to replace Snee with Mosely.
If you want to tell me Mosely doesnt know what the hell he's doing out there, I wouldnt be able to argue that but physically he's got to be better than Snee at this point with, now, 2 bad hips.
Besides, we're 0-3, this IS panic mode time. You do whatever it takes to try to improve the line.
the constantly hurt players need to go. I may give Williams another year to see if he can right it as he at least has value in the sub packages on defense
but the constantly hurt guys need to go.
I don't know why they will play cordle. we KNOW he sucks. at least with boothe at C and mosley and brewer at guards or Diehl at a G, there is the potential for that group to improve. cordle is shit and you can debate if he should even be on the team
I share your fear... Eli is one of, if not the hardest working member of this team and he is in real danger of getting hurt behind this line. He can't keep taking this kind of punishment every week. If he gets hurt, NYG is REALLY done for this year.
Hoping for some improvement on the OL this week vs Chiefs DL Â
I played O-Line my whole life and coached it. I ain't saying I am an expert by any stretch but I know and love the intricacies of O-line play and watching Cordle play in the pre-season was the absolute worst I have ever seen a center play football. He was physically whipped so many times its not funny. The guy should not even be on the roster never mind starting a game that could all but end the season.
That's not the team to expect demonstrable improvement against Â
to put a 4 man offensive line in front of him and have the defense come in hard. That will be the best way to simulate for Sunday by the looks of things.
be surprised if Coughlin plays Mosley and Brewer. It will be one or another at most. And even that isn't a given. He might try:
Beatty, Boothe, Cordle, Diehl, Pugh.
That would be a nightmare, but it would preserve his long term track record of never playing Brewer or Mosley, let alone both at the same time. Diehl was awful when healthy. Can you imagine how he'll play with a busted finger and no work for what, six weeks? He tries hard and is a warrior, but it's over. It's over for him, Snee, Baas, Boothe, and Cordle.
That would be the 1st question I would ask.
Gilbride is the type of guy who believes he is smarter than everyone else which explains why his in game adjustments are so poor and why he also does not change calls or make adjustments when facing an opponent who has an ex-giant on that team.
To me, it is Gilbride's major failing as a OC...his arrogance.
Curtis in VA : 10:36 am : link
that says there will be a change or two in the starting offensive line.
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Waiting for the tweet that says there will be a change at OC.
With Tim Carter and Mario, weren't we running reverses often? Do something different as a tendency breaker. Something has to change, let's see or hear what both coordinators have to say today.
If you're hoping to ease your frustration by looking for major changes you're going to disappointed(IMHO).
At least I really, really hope not.
Pretty sure I remember Antonio Pierce giving away secrets for the Giants against his former Redskins team back in 2005 when we shut them out, 36-0.
And while picking on coaches, I think the linebacker coach should be upgraded.
Nuff said.
Bass, Snee, not at practice. Also not working are Robinson, Williams, Thomas, Webster. Taylor and Paysinger look like they're a go.
Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 4m
On Chris Snee, hearing it's "certainly" not looking good for this week. He's still pretty sore.
Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 5m
Paysinger/Taylor were practicing.
Paul Schwartz ‏@NYPost_Schwartz 5m
TE Adrien Robinson and CB Terrell Thomas also not practicing. Baas and Snee weren't even on the field. #nyg
Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN 7m
LB Spencer Paysinger, S Cooper Taylor, and T David Diehl were all practicing. #NYG
Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday 9m
Adrien Robinson is not practicing. Has a boot on his left foot.
Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday 9m
Diehl is practicing. Working as a scout team DL in individual drills for a bit before switching back to o-line.
Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday 9m
Webster, Williams, Thomas on the bikes.
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 3m
Giants' battered OL vs the Chiefs' defensive front. Woo boy.
Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 4m
Per Giants' writers, G Chris Snee + C David Baas not on the field for today's practice. Expect at least one - maybe both - to sit out Sun.
They may go with Cordle at center and he sucks.
If you want to tell me Mosely doesnt know what the hell he's doing out there, I wouldnt be able to argue that but physically he's got to be better than Snee at this point with, now, 2 bad hips.
Besides, we're 0-3, this IS panic mode time. You do whatever it takes to try to improve the line.
but the constantly hurt guys need to go.
I don't know why they will play cordle. we KNOW he sucks. at least with boothe at C and mosley and brewer at guards or Diehl at a G, there is the potential for that group to improve. cordle is shit and you can debate if he should even be on the team
I'm expecting some respectable improvement from them (fingers crossed).
Dontari Poe may pick him apart like ribs.
Beatty Mosley Boothe Brewer Pugh.
hey who knows maybe these guys are the next kickass oline.
Beatty, Boothe, Cordle, Diehl, Pugh.
That would be a nightmare, but it would preserve his long term track record of never playing Brewer or Mosley, let alone both at the same time. Diehl was awful when healthy. Can you imagine how he'll play with a busted finger and no work for what, six weeks? He tries hard and is a warrior, but it's over. It's over for him, Snee, Baas, Boothe, and Cordle.