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Thursday's News and Tweets from Practice - Fewell/Gilbride

Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2013 10:17 am
Thursday, September 26

11:55 a.m.-1:45 p.m. – Practice

After Practice – Tom Coughlin

1:50-2:35 p.m. – Player Interviews

After Practice – Coordinators
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I wonder what Gilbride  
gmen9892 : 9/26/2013 10:34 am : link
Has to say about Chase's comments after last Sunday's game.
Waiting for the tweet  
Curtis in VA : 9/26/2013 10:36 am : link
that says there will be a change or two in the starting offensive line.
gmen  
Andy in Boston : 9/26/2013 10:37 am : link
knowing the reporters....they won't even ask him.
That would be the 1st question I would ask.
Gilbride is so stubborn and arrogant  
MikeN in Ottawa : 9/26/2013 11:03 am : link
he will refute what Chase said and deny the Panthers knew what was coming.

Gilbride is the type of guy who believes he is smarter than everyone else which explains why his in game adjustments are so poor and why he also does not change calls or make adjustments when facing an opponent who has an ex-giant on that team.

To me, it is Gilbride's major failing as a OC...his arrogance.
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Josh in the City : 9/26/2013 11:16 am : link
Quote:
Waiting for the tweet
Curtis in VA : 10:36 am : link
that says there will be a change or two in the starting offensive line.

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Waiting for the tweet that says there will be a change at OC.
Fewell/Gilbride  
ImThatGuy : 9/26/2013 11:20 am : link
Looks a lot like "Farewell Gilbride" at first glance that's what I thought was the title of this thread
It doesnt matter what the OC does or says  
Blue Blood : 9/26/2013 11:21 am : link
if the OL doesnt block anyone..
Mike  
Arcanum : 9/26/2013 11:22 am : link
You said it best!! If Gilbride is OC next year, I won't be watching the Giants. I knew on the first damn drive, chase gave them some good info about the offense.
Arcanum,  
Curtis in VA : 9/26/2013 11:26 am : link
LIES!! You can't quit this team! =)
Still beating the drum  
Randy in CT : 9/26/2013 11:35 am : link
that the OC is the fault here? He has shortcomings as does every coach, but we should have been planning better for Diehl and Snee falling off their respective cliffs because with a solid line Wilson and the 3 Amigos at WR would thrive.
And I'm convinced that Fewell just sucks.  
Randy in CT : 9/26/2013 11:36 am : link
.
He is part of the issue.  
AnishPatel : 9/26/2013 11:44 am : link
He may not be the only issue. He is a veteran coach, if he needs me make big time adjustments to his scheme to compensate for what's going on then he needs to do it. The question is will he? It seems like the attitude is this is our offense, we will win or lose with it. Fuck, run something different to help generate momentum.

With Tim Carter and Mario, weren't we running reverses often? Do something different as a tendency breaker. Something has to change, let's see or hear what both coordinators have to say today.
Gilbride will be OC next year unless Coach Coughlin retires...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2013 11:46 am : link
and then Gilbride just might be HC.

If you're hoping to ease your frustration by looking for major changes you're going to disappointed(IMHO).
This whole Chase Blackburn thing is crap  
Jimmy Googs : 9/26/2013 11:47 am : link
Unless of course he told the other Carolina defenders to rush the passer because the Giant O-line can't block. Then maybe we have something.
Ooof.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2013 11:48 am : link
I'd bet my tax return Kevin Gilbride will never, ever be head coach of this team.

At least I really, really hope not.
TTH, I agree, I'm just saying it's a possibility...  
okiegiant : 9/26/2013 11:50 am : link
and certainly as much of a possibility as him being fired.
There is no chance in hell Gilbride becomes HC...  
drkenneth : 9/26/2013 11:51 am : link
As TTH said, at least I hope not.
I can't see how there is any way the 2014 Giants  
drkenneth : 9/26/2013 11:52 am : link
have the same coaching staff in place. That is completely unacceptable to me as a fan.
If being the OC  
bceagle05 : 9/26/2013 11:55 am : link
of two title teams, the second of which was carried completely by the offense, doesn't get Gilbride a head coaching position, I'm thinking his window is slammed shut.
Jimmy Googs,  
Curtis in VA : 9/26/2013 11:59 am : link
It happens.

Pretty sure I remember Antonio Pierce giving away secrets for the Giants against his former Redskins team back in 2005 when we shut them out, 36-0.
...  
PonderingObserver : 9/26/2013 12:00 pm : link
We can make this team bigger, stronger, younger…oops, no wait…that’s the new head coach description…especially the younger part!

And while picking on coaches, I think the linebacker coach should be upgraded.
I think the Blackburn thing is overblown, too.  
bceagle05 : 9/26/2013 12:03 pm : link
I'm sure Ed Reed gave his new Houston teammates and coaches the same type of information about the Ravens. They still got blown out.
bceagle,  
Curtis in VA : 9/26/2013 12:04 pm : link
maybe thats because the Ravens were smart enough to change some things around, knowing Reed was going to give up some information?
Everyone is  
TomTom : 9/26/2013 12:10 pm : link
football genius.
Agree with Googs ...  
Beer Man : 9/26/2013 12:11 pm : link
Maybe it happened, maybe it didn't. But by the way the O-line laid down it didn't matter
I'd be curious to know how much gets changed  
bceagle05 : 9/26/2013 12:16 pm : link
in that scenario, you may be right.
The news-to-complaint ratio on these threads is getting pretty bad.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/26/2013 12:24 pm : link
I guess I just made it worse.
In the Parcell's days...  
silverfox : 9/26/2013 12:24 pm : link
...when it was 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1...everybody in the civilized world knew what the next play was going to be,,,and nobody could stop it anyway.

Nuff said.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2013 12:37 pm : link
Patricia Traina ‏@Patricia_Traina 4m
Bass, Snee, not at practice. Also not working are Robinson, Williams, Thomas, Webster. Taylor and Paysinger look like they're a go.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2013 12:39 pm : link
Quote:

Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 4m
On Chris Snee, hearing it's "certainly" not looking good for this week. He's still pretty sore.

Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 5m
Paysinger/Taylor were practicing.

Paul Schwartz ‏@NYPost_Schwartz 5m
TE Adrien Robinson and CB Terrell Thomas also not practicing. Baas and Snee weren't even on the field. #nyg

Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN 7m
LB Spencer Paysinger, S Cooper Taylor, and T David Diehl were all practicing. #NYG

Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday 9m
Adrien Robinson is not practicing. Has a boot on his left foot.

Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday 9m
Diehl is practicing. Working as a scout team DL in individual drills for a bit before switching back to o-line.

Tom Rock ‏@TomRock_Newsday 9m
Webster, Williams, Thomas on the bikes.

Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 3m
Giants' battered OL vs the Chiefs' defensive front. Woo boy.

Mike Garafolo ‏@MikeGarafolo 4m
Per Giants' writers, G Chris Snee + C David Baas not on the field for today's practice. Expect at least one - maybe both - to sit out Sun.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2013 12:40 pm : link
Jacquian Williams is another guy who is hurt all of the time. Should dump him in offseason.
Obviously  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2013 12:41 pm : link
Robinson must have screwed something up (setback) when he came back to practice a week or two ago, because he hasn't been back since.
there  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2013 12:43 pm : link
was a tweet yesterday that said Cordle was back at center...ughh.
Amazing re:  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/26/2013 12:43 pm : link
Robinson and Williams.
Curtis  
Arcanum : 9/26/2013 12:44 pm : link
Tell me about it. Hahahaha
in  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2013 12:46 pm : link
the coming offseason, the Giants have to rid themselves of high-priced veterans who are underperforming, but they also have to dump these guys who just are hurt all of the time.
Is a starting OL of  
chrispisano66 : 9/26/2013 12:49 pm : link
Beatty-Brewer-Boothe-Mosely-Pugh so much to ask?
I hope Coughlin  
Arcanum : 9/26/2013 12:50 pm : link
Has plans to make Oline adjustments in this game. Because I would hate to see Eli back there getting killed 2 weeks in a row.
chrispisano66  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2013 12:51 pm : link
that's what BBI wants, but that group is so green it will get its ass kicked too. Just wait for the stunts and blitzes to confuse the hell out of them.

They may go with Cordle at center and he sucks.
Arcanum  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/26/2013 12:51 pm : link
There's very little you can do to hide a bad offensive line.
Adrien Robinson  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2013 12:55 pm : link
The Travis Beckum of Tight Ends.
Beatty-Brewer-Boothe  
chrispisano66 : 9/26/2013 12:55 pm : link
seemed to hold up well enough on opening night. So really all you're asking is to replace Snee with Mosely.

If you want to tell me Mosely doesnt know what the hell he's doing out there, I wouldnt be able to argue that but physically he's got to be better than Snee at this point with, now, 2 bad hips.

Besides, we're 0-3, this IS panic mode time. You do whatever it takes to try to improve the line.
totally agree Eric  
GiantsFan84 : 9/26/2013 12:57 pm : link
the constantly hurt players need to go. I may give Williams another year to see if he can right it as he at least has value in the sub packages on defense

but the constantly hurt guys need to go.

I don't know why they will play cordle. we KNOW he sucks. at least with boothe at C and mosley and brewer at guards or Diehl at a G, there is the potential for that group to improve. cordle is shit and you can debate if he should even be on the team
Arcanum  
crick78 : 9/26/2013 12:57 pm : link
I share your fear... Eli is one of, if not the hardest working member of this team and he is in real danger of getting hurt behind this line. He can't keep taking this kind of punishment every week. If he gets hurt, NYG is REALLY done for this year.
Hoping for some improvement on the OL this week vs Chiefs DL  
micky : 9/26/2013 1:00 pm : link
If just for the sake of Eli's health. I'm cringing if the repeat of last weeks OL play vs Panthers shows up Sunday again.

I'm expecting some respectable improvement from them (fingers crossed).
I will not watch the game if Cordle plays center.  
BlueHurricane : 9/26/2013 1:06 pm : link
I played O-Line my whole life and coached it. I ain't saying I am an expert by any stretch but I know and love the intricacies of O-line play and watching Cordle play in the pre-season was the absolute worst I have ever seen a center play football. He was physically whipped so many times its not funny. The guy should not even be on the roster never mind starting a game that could all but end the season.
That's not the team to expect demonstrable improvement against  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/26/2013 1:07 pm : link
The Chiefs may be a more physical, explosive front than Carolina. The idea of Cordle playing in this game alone terrifies me.

Dontari Poe may pick him apart like ribs.
re  
Rob_MTL : 9/26/2013 1:09 pm : link
Im looking forward to seeing this oline.
Beatty Mosley Boothe Brewer Pugh.

hey who knows maybe these guys are the next kickass oline.
Maybe the best way for Eli to practice this week is  
Jimmy Googs : 9/26/2013 1:12 pm : link
to put a 4 man offensive line in front of him and have the defense come in hard. That will be the best way to simulate for Sunday by the looks of things.
I'd  
AcidTest : 9/26/2013 1:20 pm : link
be surprised if Coughlin plays Mosley and Brewer. It will be one or another at most. And even that isn't a given. He might try:

Beatty, Boothe, Cordle, Diehl, Pugh.

That would be a nightmare, but it would preserve his long term track record of never playing Brewer or Mosley, let alone both at the same time. Diehl was awful when healthy. Can you imagine how he'll play with a busted finger and no work for what, six weeks? He tries hard and is a warrior, but it's over. It's over for him, Snee, Baas, Boothe, and Cordle.
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