Prince Amukamara After The Dwayne Bowe Salsa...

I'm not looking at many threads today because I don't expect to see much good. The OP here strikes me as particularly ridiculous for reasons I explained.

But, in general, expecting people to feel positive today strikes me as more than a little unrealistic.

The staff? The GM? The players?

They are evaluating. Constantly evaluating. They are watching and evaluating EVERYTHING.

Because they are going to have to make a lot of decisions at the end of this season on who stays, and who goes.

In a football lockerroom, what Prince did goes a long way. Guys notice it, and so do coaches.

Enough is enough.

And yes, I didnt care for it when they were winning ball games and the Super Bowl.

Is it harmless? Yes.

Is it also corny and overdone? Yes.

I fail to see your reasons on why this is ridiculous when we are talking about a player sticking up for a teammate and showing pride given the situation at that moment.

Vibe...have you ever played organized sports???

I completely agree with you.

The Cruz dance is always silly, but it is especially so when the team is sitting at 0-3.

As for Prince sticking up for him...I guess that's great. Didn't affect the scoreboard.

Why isn't Prince concentrating on making the Oline better instead of wasting his time on something that doesn't matter!

From way back in the early days of discussing Manning and his lack of screaming I have always felt a lot of BBI'ers could use a good, serious, course in leadership.

but dropping him in the ice tub last year.

They were trying to make him angry. Trying to make him fight.

Some of you look at football in a vacume, rather than a game played by living, breathing, emotional human beings.

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I hope to hell not a lot of weight is given to how they waste their energy after they've been scored on again.

Guys arguing that this is an example of Giants pride take pride in some truly odd shit. It's beyond a reach.

Made this game feel like a win to me.

2-2 if you count Wilson being upset in Dallas.

the mentality or dynamic of a football lockerroom.

You could easily trace the ice tub incident last year to that moment yesterday, as that's what the ice tub's intended purpose was, to toughen him up. To make him meaner. To show more fight.

I'm not saying I understand the mentality of a professional football lockerroom, but after coaching in high school as well as growing up with a head high school football coach and being around the lockerrom for many years, you see stuff like this all the time.

And coaches and players notice stuff like that.

You either get it, or you don't. Not much more to say than that.

and a couple of Peyton's TDs, plus Prince yelling at Bowe for dancing and it's like we're 3-1.

Add in the Breaking Bad finale being so good and, really, we're 4-0.

and like what Tuck said, I will continue to watch.

You know it's over when they are indifferent, ala Joe Horn and the cell phone in 2003. Guys just shrugging their shoulders and walking off the field.

But whatever, it is what it is.

The only reason it's even worth mentioning is because Prince has been labeled as somewhat of a push-over in past seasons. So, I guess it's good that he's showing some fire out there.

Ah, the small victories of an awful season.

These guys aren't robots. They ride a huge wave of confidence and emotion each game (aside from Eli). Prince's actions didn't affect the outcome of the game obviously but it's a marker of where he is in his own little arc. I thought it a positive as well.

Watching Eli I go the sense if this shit keeps up his confidence will get hurt. It's got to be painful getting hit around behind a bad OL. What's worse is you're trying to make a play for your team and the the WR and you aren't on the same page. You step up in the pocket to throw a deep pass, expecting the WR to be streaking, and all you see if a long fly ball deep to center field with a red uniformed player watching to make the grab.

Just watching him shake his head I felt for him. That's got to hurt the confidence. Can't even make a play or have a chance to make it because there are no blue uniformed players even in the fucking tv frame. Just a sea of KC players waiting for the int.

How's all Rolle or Tuck's endless big talk translated into wins? Empty gestures are empty. They don't take on magical significance in a football locker room. You know how I know that? 0-4, 31-7. You're acting like Prince's little moment of acting out because he was frustrated his efforts had gone in vain again are some sort of building block that will propel the Giants upward. That is wrong. Your continued optimism in the face of numerous realities doesn't count as special insight. It's just homerism. Which is cool and all. But stop acting like it's some deeper understanding. It's just not. Anyone who thinks the Giants felt any better as a result of that little moment sounds like the one who has never been in a locker room.

You know what's impressing Prince's teammates? That he's playing well while most of them are not. And that's what they'll be talking about in film sessions. Not his bad sportsmanship and thin skinned behavior in the face of another team's celebration.

and Jim summed it up quite well.

It has no affect on the field, I agree. But that's where the disconnect is.

You're not understanding that I'm not saying what he's doing is propelling the team in any way, or going to motivate the team.

But the coaches notice. The players notice. He's also backing it up with his play in the field.

That's leadership, whether you see it or not, and it's a positive.

showed some Giants pride; at least HE has not quit.Gotta love it.
Prince's sexuality is mocked because he has chosen to remain a virgin.
And, 'not for nutin' but, given the chart, having the #6 guy(Joe Haden), and the #4 guy, in Giants blue, would be great.

Not sure why it rubs some of you the wrong way that a player would show a little pride and leadership, but whatever.

I'm done talking about this at this point, as I'd just be talking in circles. My viewpoint on this subject in it's entriety can be read above at this point.

That's a disconnect on this board, in general. Rolle talks big on the radio and people call him a leader!!! {i] Yeah, he's mad!! He's not going to take it anymore!!!!"

Jacobs throws his helmet into the stands and people say that shows how much cares. How fiery he his. "Loud words!!!! Wild gesticulation!!"

I get it. It's drama. It looks exciting. It gets fans fired up. Drama! Look at the displays of emotion! It's meaningful!!!

The show of emotion that impressed me yesterday was Paysinger when he stuffed Charles and nearly ripped the ball from his hands. Because he was emotional about making a fucking play. Or Herzlich after tipping the pass. Those emotional outbursts actually had something to do with the game.

They make false promises. Mostly in the media, then do not back it up on the field.

Prince did not go after Bowe in the media. If he had, I'd have a problem with it.

Prince has been doing nothing but being our best CB. You never hear anything from him in the media.

I don't think you understand the distinction, otherwise you woudn't be comparing him to Rolle or Tuck.

over-weighing actions like this reek of "tom brady has that look in his eye" rhetoric.

that being said, it's not a negative, and with the particular player involved having a "reputation" (at least among many here on BBI, LOL) of being soft, I can see people wandering through a desert of negativity desperate for a drink considering this a positive event in the morass of crap we've seen through 4 weeks.

getting beaten down today. Uneccessary.

Does it take the sting off for some of you? I sure hope so, otherwise, what purpose does it serve?

I agree with you and with Vibe. LOL.

because we like that our CB showed a little fight yesterday.

Yay. Go Giants.

I guess it is backing up your teammate,but I'd say it's at the bottom of the barrel.

wasted a lot of energy barking at the QB before the ball was snapped,someone should of told him to shut up and play and do his talking to his coke dealer

Squaring his shoulders, keeping his man in front him. You know, playing his position well.

Look at me with all my crazy talk about plays actually relevant to the outcome of the game, as opposed to some chirping a guy did after we went down by 4 touchdowns. How can I not see that for the meaningful, important moment it was? Because that's definitely the kind of thing the Giants were talking about in the locker room after the game?

But it's me who is looking at things in a confused way?

Hey, if this is making your own emotions easier to deal with...

IMO.

You had to come on here and talk down to people that liked it?

For what purpose exactly. My emotions are just fine. I feel like one of the few rational people on the board today, to be honest.

and not think of the halcyon days of Lawrence Taylor? I mean, the parallels between '13 and '86 are so obvious.

to unreasonable level. As you are the one fighting for the significance of the small, meaningless moment. And I'm just saying it was a small, meaningless moment.

Plus didn't you say you were going to leave this alone, like, 4 posts ago? Isn't that kind of the definition of can't-let-it-go?

There are any number of threads in which people are expressing optimism. And for reasons more logical than this. And yet you keep coming back here. That's on me, too?

I would urge you to do the same.

Thanks.

Very good corner. Definitely a building block in the defensive backfield.

Although I imagine it will continue to be missed on an 0-4 BBI.

is a gigantic vortex of ignorance, stupidity, horror, confusion and just the right amount of funny. It's like a show on Broadway.

...by voicing his displeasure over the usage of a specific dance.






Yeah, that's something alright.

if you have a canned celebratory act, don't be surprised if you see it when things don't go well

Liked Prince's play yesterday - that was impressive.

if someone went after their TE after his cut blocks.

Rookie hazing is the reason why Prince is playing so well. We should be dunking every draft pick in an ice bath. Their family too.

Hazing = wins. Except when it doesnt.


Congrats to vibe. Solid work on this thread.

Would you rather or rather not have seen Prince do what he did? I can't imagine. Anyone saying rather not and so it has to be seen as a positive, no matter how small.

Don't care if it doesn't make an impact on the game, I still like that he decided to defend Cruz. I don't get why everything has to be performance related for someone to like something. No one is claiming that Prince getting in Bowes face is better than winning the game or preventing the TD in the first place.

Do people actually see it as that?

Seemed like he was complaining about copying a stupid dance.

That Cruz does. Hence, the defending of Cruz.

Holy shit...

Victor was on the sidelines.

He was objecting to someone doing Victor's little dance.

He was objecting to winners having fun winning.

On their home field.

Because that is legitimately objectionable?

Because Giants pride isn't about winning. It's about individual's TD celebrations. Which are, of course, sacred.

We get it. The Giants lost. No one is arguing that Prince getting in Bowes face was changing the game. It's just good to see some anger/emotion and a guy not looking lifeless when we're down several TDs. Not once in the OP did he say that it changed the game in any way, shape, or form...you just feel the need to state it 20 times on this thread that it doesn't.

You dont want players that are "ok" with losing... players that will han their heads and just walk off.

Nobody wants a dirty player, but players should be pissed and act a little "uncivil", for a lack of a better word.

I dont often agree with Carl Banks, but after the Carolina loss, he was very open critisizing the team, said something like he's surprised nobody from the Giants picked a fight with a Panthers player... to him, as an ex-player, the players "didnt care", hence all the "players quit" stuff attributed to him.

So yeah, Prince getting in Bowe's face is a good thing in my book.

12 more weeks of insanity to go!