is get rid of the ball quicker. I don't know if this has been discussed on the site, but it seems to me he's holding onto the ball longer than usual. Obviously, with the blocking of the line, TEs, and backs, that's not ideal.
There were plays against KC where I thought the line did a reasonable (not great, but reasonable) job in pass protection, and I was yelling "throw it, throw it."
He's got to dump it off or throw it away.
I think it comes back to the existing offense. Its time for it to evolve to quicker and shorter options.
The other part of the problem is, he has no trust whatsoever in this o-line, so he seems to bring the ball down early a couple times a game now (havent seen him do this this many times in previous 5 years or so). It is a residual effect because of the poor offensive line that speeds up his internal clock in the pocket.
But a check down/dump off option would be very nice at this point.
But seriously, routes and reads are taking too long to develop.
I completely agree he often holds the ball too long. Maybe he knows getting a long completion is the only real chance we have to score (yesterday as a case in point).
Two plays from this week are reasons why. He got rid of the ball quick when he had to scramble: Intentional grounding. A few series later, INT.
Overhead replays are ideal to see why Eli is in a lose-lose. The receivers are not out of their breaks by the time Eli has to throw the ball. People complain that he is taking a sack, however, the WRs arent looking for the ball and are still in their route.
What Gilbride needs to do is stop with the PA on 2nd/3rd and long. And run shorter patterns.
Look at the difference at the end of the 1st half in the two minute drill when the routes where shortened up, the ball came out.
I know our offense is predicated on downfield passing game but this is not 2011, the coaches need to implement more of a short passing game with Eli in shotgun so he has time and can scan the field.
I don't expect much to change though, we will just continue to hear about "lack of execution" instead of realizing something schemtically also has to give.
Eli needs to stop being so careless with the ball. He's a turnover machine.
This team has a lot of re-occurring habits. That's on coaching. Do you think he loves throwing it 30 yards on 3rd and 3 also?
guys have to be open
BlueHurricane : 5:48 pm : link
When it is uploaded to the fans site. He gave some answers that offered some insight into the offenses struggles. Answers that were more forthcoming that the usual vanilla stuff.
please elaborate.
We all love to blame KG and TC... well the QB certainly doesnt appear to be blaming anything but execution either... week in and week out. At some point, when the ship is sinking... oh shucks doesnt work any more and you need to speak up.
Maybe i am wrong but i have no doubt that if Eli suggested that they spread the field and run more 1 back sets and pick up the tempo... that they may just do that a bit more.
That is the epitome of being between a rock and a hard place.
He has to wait that extra bit longer to make sure receivers are for sure breaking where he thinks they are, so as not to have our typical QB-WR miscommunication.
I feel for him, and it's certainly a reason to be somewhat gun shy.
Now, on screens and stuff, I agree he should look for check downs more often, but the Giants should just implement more of it into the offense. At the same time it's tough to know how much of that is available considering how many guys we need to keep in to block now.
And on a side note the Giants need to get Darrell Scott off the field on every down and let's use David Wilson as a pass catching weapon. Screen him against teams to death. Put him in space and let's see what we have and build his confidence both he and Eli's confidence.
At this rate, David Wilson is one of the few guys who can have a massive upside impact, if we elect to use him... which I think is crazy and an indictment of this coaching staff that we haven't, considering we were 0-3, and now 0-4.
I don't think it was a coincidence that as soon as we went to the hurry up, we were able to move the chains a few times and get down the field.
The clown from Oakland doesn't count. This has been The Reese's biggest failing.
A new offense realistic or not can cure this but in this offense he will always look to go deep and hit that home run.
What I mean is, it has been established that the Giants' O-Line is shoddy at best, and that, given enough time, the defense can get to Eli. It's also no secret that the receivers are going to base their routes on how the defense is positioned. If they see a certain look, most likely the WRs will adjust their route to go longer.
I wonder if teams have used tape to see what looks make the Giant WRs adjust their routes deep, and then tried to disguise them as well. This way, they can force the WRs deep and possibly temporarily defend against the deep ball, allowing the DL more time to get to Eli. I would also think that doing something like that would yield similar offensive results to what we've seen, with increased pressure on Eli, the offense being stagnant for extended periods of time with the occasional long play mixed in.
Jacobs did well on a designed dump-off, I suppose. Either way, those plays have to be blocked and we can't.
Eli did that a few times in that game, stared down the primary receiver waiting for him to make his break based on the defense.
It's not gonna happen, but the only way the Giants can avoid this is calling shorter routes until the line blocks better.