Snee might need surgery

Not surprising.

Sorta sucks that that debacle in Carolina might be our last memory of him.

for that pancake block back in 05.

To retire or be cut this offseason. I appreciate all he has done but the decline came quickly here and has had a real impact on the OL.

Any cap relief this year?

is the cap situation affected at all?

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that chris snee was an all pro guard for us who's body gave out on him in the last few years

i wouldnt be surprised if this was the end of his career and i will remember him with the same admiration and accolade I remember rich seubert, sean o'hara, kareem mckenzie, david diehl and the rest of that group from our recent championship seasons

its time for david baas to sit down also and allow the team to assess and develop the young offensive linemen going forward

like he's the player going on IR for Hill, not Taylor.

My understanding is that retirement has no affect on the cap, that any remaining prorated part of the player's bonus still affects the cap in the same way. We're still on the hook for the same cap hit. If he was under contract past 2014, we could make him a post June 1 cut, and spread the hit out over two years. But he isn't, so we can't.

I hate it for him.

missed 1 game in like 10 years. I feel terrible. Another all time Giant but his life after football is more important

do they sign Herman off of the PS?

that made me laugh

the re-structure look worse unless it was some sort of straight paycut.

another the hip surgery he needs to retire at the end of the year so he doesn't risk long term issues with his body. He has had an outstanding career for the gmen and that shouldn't be overlooked.

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This year's salary is already guaranteed. The bonus is already paid. And next year's salary is meaningless since he won't be with the team.

Exactly why Kyle Long would have been a far better draft pick

He couldn't move all preseason and now it's news?

So instead of having protection failures at LG-C-RG, you have protection failures at LG-C-RT.

Swapping Pugh for Long is just moving the problem from one position to the other

and he's been good thus far, especially in light of the competition faced and the status of the line overall.

He agreed to reduce his 2013 base salary. OverTheCap says it was in exchange for added signing bonus, which is normally the case. But in rare instances, a player will take a paycut.

If this guy couldn't move (and it's obvious watching him in the Carolina game) why the hell was he on the field. Why weren't the substitutions that were made against Kansas City made the week before? I don't understand the concept of this team putting guys on the field that have some fairly serious physical issues they're dealing with. The guy couldn't play. We could all see it and yet, he remains on the field. Unbelievalble!!

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Snee has torn labrum, bone chips, just like last year (in the other hip). Difference this time is his movement is very restricted. #NYG
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one of my favorite giants of all time. thanks for all of the memories, chris.

with that kind of salary cap hit after two separate hip issues and now another surgery. everyone gives the guy a hard time but it sucks if he may have played his last game for us...

I'd be shocked if he tried to play next year.

Sounds like that would be really hard to come back from.

level of play, get healthy Chris.

if not for football, than just for quality of life. Snee has given us his all for years. He's a great Giant.

I doubt seriously that the NFLPA would allow Snee to take a pay cut DURING the season, when he's guaranteed the money. Switching the $$ from salary to bonus is basically an accounting move and doesn't affect Snee's overall compensation.

and they can remove the fork from his back while they are in looking at his hip

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for life. I suppose he will be partially anyway from the last labrum. I'll bet he's second guessing coming back this year about now.

Get well Chris.

now he is getting his golden parachute. All injuries surgically repaired and he retires with his two rings, his pro honors and memories. Just like O'Hara and Seubert. Wish him well, he was a warrior and deserves all he can get.

and a CAN'T WALK is reason to voluntarily turn in his playbook.
A great Giant, gave all he had, and any other accolades. But he needs to retire NOW for his own sake.
As it is he will be suffering for a long time, no need to make it unbearable.

Thanks Chris.

CAN'T MOVE.

Even worse.

and the Giants.

The cap situation is set now for the season in all likelihood. The Giants HAD TO make the move they did to gain that cap room for operational expenses.

Now, hypothetically speaking, if Snee retired in-season I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't affect things this year. It's not happening though until the end of the season at the earliest. More, and more, the Snee situation is looking like it'll end the same way that things ended for O'Hara and Seubert after the 2010 season due to injuries to both of those players.

granted if a player retires due to injury? A retirement is a retirement, the circumstances do not matter? Just curious.

but for your sake, please retire, before you have to confine all entire adult life in a wheelchair or a walker

BBI trophy for next training camp.

while he can still walk. Brutal game, that football. And sad news for one of the best Giants of this era

And forget about football. Arthritis is the lurking monster that doesn't rear it's head for a long time, then one day, all of a sudden you can't get out of bed.

I've had two very minor injuries, one 40 years ago (from weight lifting) and the other 15 years ago (basketball hip injury). They would flare up once-in-a-while, but they were mostly a nuisance. Then, a couple of years ago (I'm now 66), they both started hurting (I limped for three months).

I got my weight down and started to exercise more, when I was diagnosed with mild Arthritis of the hip and back. Snee's injuries are a lot more severe, he needs to quit right now.

Baas is probably the same way, pain-wise. Bass can still play at a very high level, but his neck has to be killing him. I remember Superbowl 46; he came out of no-where to dominate Vince Wilfork. I'm thinking he was on massive pain killers, to be able to play.

snee is a real warrior out there but his body is just betraying him. its a shame.

him and Baas weren't even close to healthy.

get well chris

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Thanks Optimus. Is it correct to say that there is no cap relief Victor in CT : 4:00 pm : link granted if a player retires due to injury? A retirement is a retirement, the circumstances do not matter? Just curious.

The acceleration of bonus money at the specific stage of he contract when the retirement takes place is the question. It's essentially the same as a player getting cut. I think, but I'm not sure, that if a retirement can be made official after June 1st, and there are two or more years left on the retiring player's deal that the resulting Dead Money can be spread out over two years.

a whole lot easier

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Coughlin should force Snee to start and force Baas to start again also.

Is this really that bad?

We are 0-4 and likely in a lost season, and if that is the case, I'd like to get as much of a read as possible on our younger guys like Brewer to see if he is a part of the future.