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Jon Beason traded to the Giants?

GiantsBRFan : 10/3/2013 11:09 pm
That's the rumor of the night on Twitter and several beat writers from the Panthers are confirming he's get traded but don't know to who or for what.
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It's early.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/4/2013 9:18 am : link
Maybe JLC was out at the clubs a bit too late.
The  
AcidTest : 10/4/2013 9:18 am : link
Giants apparently had a first round grade on Hankins. I think his selection is or was related to their desire to resign Nicks. They probably knew it would be difficult to resign both Nicks and Joseph. So they tried to get a replacement for Joseph at least one year in advance. Joseph and Hankins come across as basically the same type of DT, namely run stuffers with limited pass rush ability.

Resigning Nicks may have rightly been a higher priority at the time of the draft, but Joseph should be now IMO. He is healthier and will be cheaper.
Why draft Hankins?  
Chef : 10/4/2013 9:21 am : link
Best player available
Sounds like the connection to NYG was  
JonC : 10/4/2013 9:22 am : link
meant to create leverage with the Bengals.
trade  
SBlue46 : 10/4/2013 9:23 am : link
Nicks now while healthy,,we womt give him 10M
and he will walk
You draft Hankins because  
JonC : 10/4/2013 9:28 am : link
you had a need to build at DT, and he was BPA.

Drafting is simple, don't overdraft for perceived needs at LB especially when you run a 4-3 with needs at DL and DB.
If it's a 7th round pick, then fine...  
islander1 : 10/4/2013 9:32 am : link
there are no shortage of undrafted players that provide more value then 7th round picks.
JonC  
COLT46 : 10/4/2013 9:32 am : link
That philosophy has us a 0-4.
LaConfora tweet is a typo....  
GMAN4LIFE : 10/4/2013 9:34 am : link
it has to be
< at  
COLT46 : 10/4/2013 9:34 am : link
.
moaltch  
Giantology : 10/4/2013 9:35 am : link
Because Rogers and Patterson were not sure things, and after the performance of our interior DL last season, we needed to bring in as many bodies as possible. You also seem to forget that the draft is not about filling immediate holes... with Joseph in a contract year, we now have someone in place should he leave.
WFAN  
BlueHurricane : 10/4/2013 9:35 am : link
Just reported it on their 20 minute update.
Colt  
JonC : 10/4/2013 9:37 am : link
Draft better players, don't start reaching and compounding the mistakes of drafting projects.
Our drafting in terms of talent has stunk since Ross took over  
JonC : 10/4/2013 9:38 am : link
He's doing well in the 1st, batting about .500 in the 2nd, and generating little from there on.
Didn't we trade a 5th rounder for Kieth Rivers too??  
Curtis in VA : 10/4/2013 9:39 am : link
.
its amusing to me how people who  
Tuckrule : 10/4/2013 9:39 am : link
have no idea of Beasons health and sit at their computer thinking they know more than doctors and Reese. Its absolutley insane to me. All people can point out is how many games he has played. Not how he has looked while playing but just how many games played. Hes better than herlizch with one leg. Personally, I wont judge this trade until I see the guy play. I would of prefered to see Bradford as he does look very intriguing.
JonC  
COLT46 : 10/4/2013 9:41 am : link
" Draft better players " Really ?
kuechly is carolina's MLB  
area junc : 10/4/2013 9:41 am : link
beason played WLB there which is where c.blackburn beat him out.

beason will play MLB for us
tuckrule  
eleven : 10/4/2013 9:41 am : link
We all knew rivers was garbage. Just sayin
i remember Beason talking all kinds of trash in 2008  
oke49 : 10/4/2013 9:43 am : link
when Derrick Ward and the running game torched him and the Panthers for over 300 yards on the ground. that was a great game.
JonC  
COLT46 : 10/4/2013 9:46 am : link
Those " perceived needs ", at linebacker have us reaching for Beason now.
It's logic  
JonC : 10/4/2013 9:48 am : link
Yes, draft better players. Poor drafting (and injuries, and productive vets aging rapidly) is why this roster is weakened.

Pro personnel drafts to a draft's inherent strengths, and they prioritize based on the schemes the deploy. Thus, a 4-3 defense requires assets to be devoted to the DL and DB firstly. If they grade a DT higher than an LB, they're going to draft the DT. This is logical.

You can debate they've not done enough to address the LB unit on the whole over a period of time, clearly. But, in a salary cap league with some star players and big cap hits already onboard, you're going to be lean at some positions.
So, just to recap:  
Jon from PA : 10/4/2013 9:49 am : link


It's now being reported that the initial rumor may be incorrect and now Beason is now being traded to the Bengals for a late rounder?
there's one to many now's in there  
Jon from PA : 10/4/2013 9:50 am : link
...
I don't agree with reaching for Beason  
JonC : 10/4/2013 9:55 am : link
and agree they should be paying more attention to the LB unit, but they should've been looking at LB in free agency if the needs were deemed that urgent. You don't look at the 2013 draft and pick players expecting them to play in 2013.
last week  
Fish : 10/4/2013 9:57 am : link
On the thread where detroit wss a good trading partner I said I would rather trade with carolina for beason.....nice.

That and metrocard gets me a train ride.
When will then be now  
BlueHurricane : 10/4/2013 9:58 am : link
?
everyone realizes  
jintz4life : 10/4/2013 10:00 am : link
they're still gonna have 7+ picks even if they traded one for beason because of comp picks

they lost bennett/tynes/osi/phillips/blackburn/hixon

they signed brown/myers/murphy/mundy
BlueHurricane  
Chef : 10/4/2013 10:03 am : link
Soon...
I like  
NJGiantFan84 : 10/4/2013 10:07 am : link
the move. This season is not over in this atrocious division. Bringing in beason is an upgrade from our LB's. Nobody is saying he is going to be a star, which is why you only give up a late round pick for him.

You're not getting a good player at this point in the season. So Reese made a move that could slightly improve the team and gave up very little in return. Unlike fans, people who work with the team just don't give up and say the hell with the season, they have to do what they can to help the team win as much as possible. A late round pick to take a flyer on a guy that was a pro bowl player before an injury is not the worst thing in the world. Sometimes a change in scenery is all a guy needs to improve. That is exactly what Pittsburgh is hoping w/ the Levi Brown trade.

A great trade? No. There is not going to be 1 at this point. But its not nearly as bad as many here are making it out to be. It's a low risk trade.

Pathetic  
terrykinard : 10/4/2013 10:09 am : link
We'd be better off signing LB John Lotulelei, recently dropped by SEA, for nothing.

More of the same from Reese on the LB front -- old, injured has beens.
jintz  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/4/2013 10:09 am : link
good call. nobody even brought that up.

Even if the trade goes through they might still end up with 8-9 draft day picks.
terrykinard  
RicFlair : 10/4/2013 10:10 am : link
except the jaguars claimed him off of waivers.
Trading a 7th round pick  
4to80 : 10/4/2013 10:13 am : link
Wreaks of desperation?? Can't eleve I read that close to 15 times on this thread. God forbid they attempt to improve the roster by trading away 7th rounders! NJGiantFan post made me feel better at least.
The Giants  
pjcas18 : 10/4/2013 10:13 am : link
released Osi he doesn't count in comp pick calculations.



Some strange reactions to this thread  
Brandon Walsh : 10/4/2013 10:14 am : link
considering it going to be a 7th rounder. I can guarantee it won't be a 5th rounder.

I still don't undertand why the Giants didn't sign Daryl Smith this offseason. They certainly could have made his $2 million dollar salary work by signing one or two less of the minimum contracts they gave out to awful players.

In Jerry I trust, but the last 12 months has not been his finest.
Thankfully Bennett certainly will  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/4/2013 10:15 am : link
and at this pace it'll be a significant pick.
JonC  
COLT46 : 10/4/2013 10:15 am : link
Agreed.
lol  
COLT46 : 10/4/2013 10:16 am : link
.
TTH  
pjcas18 : 10/4/2013 10:18 am : link
I think it's more about the contract Bennett signed than it is about his on-field performance.

I know there is some performance stuff built in, but I think it's weighed less than the contract.

Your free agent additions less your losses.

Last year the Giants did not have a net loss, but still received a pick though because the league HAS to give out 32 picks each year.

so, if not a lot of teams had net free agent losses the Giants could still get a decent pick.
the giants didnt release osi, he was a free agent and  
jintz4life : 10/4/2013 10:19 am : link
had to wait until the new league year started before signing with another team
Loving this. A screwy trade for us and the whole league  
Reese's Pieces : 10/4/2013 10:28 am : link
to take apart all week AND the day that BBI turned savagely on Jerry ("In Reese We Trust") Reese.
It  
AcidTest : 10/4/2013 10:30 am : link
isn't the cost, assuming it's a seventh rounder, it's the fact that we traded anything for an injured, aging, veteran. Doing so continues the infuriating pattern of collecting these players instead of building with those who are younger and healthier.

This is especially bad since we are 0-4. It's like we're the "Over the Hill Gang" of Redskins from the 70s. We have Acho on the PS. He is healthier and younger, and if he can't play, at least we'll know that when the season ends.

How are younger players ever going to get a chance if they're constantly displaced by has beens like Diehl, Snee, Baas, Boothe, Cordle, Tuck, and now apparently Beason?
Quite the Giants fan, eh?  
jcn56 : 10/4/2013 10:30 am : link
If you're loving this, too bad we can't send you back in time to the 70's.
If Chase Is playing WLB  
Rflairr : 10/4/2013 10:32 am : link
There going to be looking for a WLB in a few weeks.
No  
pjcas18 : 10/4/2013 10:33 am : link
Giants had a voidable year on Osi for 2013 that they voided. I think that's considered the same as a release.

Maybe someone knows definitively.
A 5th?  
old man : 10/4/2013 10:38 am : link
Could be a 6th , and performance-based 5th (though it should be 1 round lower to start).I hope, anyway.
If I have the right guy, he's also a vocal-type leader.
This should go well with our existing LBs: "You guys aren't better than a one-legged, busted up circus dog".
This is also  
downinfront : 10/4/2013 10:39 am : link
Gettleman taking advantage of his former pupil. I can only imagine the grin on his face when he heard the desperation in Jerry's voice over the phone.
old man thats what u like about this move  
area junc : 10/4/2013 10:40 am : link
beason has some of that antonio pierce in him, as far as being a vocal leader on and off the field

as long as he's an upgrade over Herzlich on the Tampa 2 drop and instincts hes an upgrade for us, and thats all that matters.
Reese worked for Gettleman?  
pjcas18 : 10/4/2013 10:42 am : link
other way around, at least from 2004 on.
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