I read pending physical. So Beason probably needs to fly to NY, get in front of the doctors, have an exam, and then based on the results they'd agree to the trade.
repetitive bad drafts won't happen again the way you fear(at least not likely during our lifetimes).
This was a wake-up year for ownership, FO, and coaching:
Football has changed, and loyalty to a player must be cut short by practicality; and, the game is about bigger stronger and faster, about youth, with veterans at key positions. The Giants recognized that somewhat last offseason and were hoping they could adequately ride out 1 more year, but now realize they should have made those type moves after SB46. Organization and fans are paying the price this year, and likely may somewhat next year.
Am upset,like most everyone, in what all management has done with hoping for 'projects' and 'upside potential', and 'reclamation' players to pan-out, but as for me, in Reese I still trust.
Likely won't announce compensation before the deal is finalized
But whatever it is, it's more expensive than keeping Chase Blackburn. I've never understood why the front office kept looking to get rid of him, especially with the way they hang onto other non-All Pro players. I understand the desire to upgrade the position, but he was a capable reserve at basically the vet minimum.
You could do worse than Chase Blackburn (see: NYG current linebackers). I wanted to keep him. He has his faults, but he seemed to have a nose for the ball and created opportunities when it mattered.
where did all the hertzlich love on this site go? I remember two years
or so someone posted that hertzlich couldn't walk right or something like that. I suspect the poster meant that hertzlich's gait was impaired. That poster was attacked again and again and the "walking" comment became a typical bbi repeated phrase site joke. an example of mob mentality that frequently appears here.
well, now hertzlich may have a gait, but he sure as hell can't run or cover. Hertzlich was going to be a savior at lb'er, 'fraid not. Great story does not mean great football player at the NFL level.
giants don't have a mlb except for paysinger and he's forced to play the Olb and plays it pretty well. Before we go crazy about this purported trade, let's see if it goes through and what the lb'er looks like on the field.
even if the Giants wanted him back, I doubt it would've been for more than the vet minimum. His deal with the Panthers was for 2 yrs/$2.05M which is slightly above the vet mins.
that this is a move for NEXT season? perhaps Beason isn't fully healed yet but he should be/will be next season, at which time he'd be a pretty good addition to our LB corps.
and I don't say it to knock JR, but to tell it like it is. We ARE desperate. I don't like the move because Beason is so beaten up (see link) it looks like he is going to be on IR soon himself. This is really simple to figure. We made some gambles on the OL.....for some young people to be ready and for some vets to have gas left in the tank. We rolled snake eyes. Our defense has been pretty good actually, but injuries have hit, as always. I would prefer to fight like hell, let some young people get experience, and roll the bones that way. This is a very un-Giant like move to get Beason. Link - ( New Window )
we don't give up another 5th for a guy that's not productive and will be hittting the streets after another season. I know Beason was a great LB a few years ago, and if he got beat out by Chase Blackburn, there is clearly a problem with him. Buyer BEWARE!
fans on Reddit think this was a great trade for us. They think he still has Pro Bowl football in him and that he is a great leader. Was playing out of position because of Kuechly.
The three things that they have created the current mess are:
1. Free agent signings that were either bad (Baas) or did not work out because of injuries (Canty). If you look at the per dollar production the Giants received from their FA signings it is incredibly poor.
2. Holding on to aging, high-priced veterans too long. There was obvious nepotism with Snee, so we really should not count that because it won't be repeated. But Tuck, Boley, Webster all had high-cap years in which they delivered nothing. It's tough to cut a guy who helped you win, but that is unfortunately what you have to do.
3. Too many backloaded contracts and restructured contracts that make players "uncuttable" because of the cap hit. All NFL teams do this but Giants have been veering into Raiders territory with some of their contracts.
You can't just say things(well, yes you can, it's the interwebs)with out facts to support them.
The docs don't suck just because one or two players, out of the hundreds who have played here recently, didn't recover the way some fans wanted them to.
If NY loses to Philly.....
The only one that mentions a 5th rounder is referring to the 2012 trade with the Bengals where we sent our 5th for Keith Rivers.
This was a wake-up year for ownership, FO, and coaching:
Football has changed, and loyalty to a player must be cut short by practicality; and, the game is about bigger stronger and faster, about youth, with veterans at key positions. The Giants recognized that somewhat last offseason and were hoping they could adequately ride out 1 more year, but now realize they should have made those type moves after SB46. Organization and fans are paying the price this year, and likely may somewhat next year.
Am upset,like most everyone, in what all management has done with hoping for 'projects' and 'upside potential', and 'reclamation' players to pan-out, but as for me, in Reese I still trust.
well, now hertzlich may have a gait, but he sure as hell can't run or cover. Hertzlich was going to be a savior at lb'er, 'fraid not. Great story does not mean great football player at the NFL level.
giants don't have a mlb except for paysinger and he's forced to play the Olb and plays it pretty well. Before we go crazy about this purported trade, let's see if it goes through and what the lb'er looks like on the field.
It is spelled G-I-A-N-T-S.
60/70%?
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But, it seemed the Bengals were rumored to be the suitor more recently, which would appear to make NYG a leverage pawn.
Rob in NYC : 11:40 am : link
is slefrak?
60/70%?
100%.
just a thought.
Not sure what accelerating the bonuses into this year would do to those numbers, probably knock them down a little.
but Jon Beason in 2013 and beyond is not a $10M per year football player.
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Paysinger, Beason, Bradford
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Let's see if he passes a physical to complete a trade. Even then, leg injuries tend to pile up and or slow a player down rather than go away.
Then he will break leg next week
1. Free agent signings that were either bad (Baas) or did not work out because of injuries (Canty). If you look at the per dollar production the Giants received from their FA signings it is incredibly poor.
2. Holding on to aging, high-priced veterans too long. There was obvious nepotism with Snee, so we really should not count that because it won't be repeated. But Tuck, Boley, Webster all had high-cap years in which they delivered nothing. It's tough to cut a guy who helped you win, but that is unfortunately what you have to do.
3. Too many backloaded contracts and restructured contracts that make players "uncuttable" because of the cap hit. All NFL teams do this but Giants have been veering into Raiders territory with some of their contracts.
The docs don't suck just because one or two players, out of the hundreds who have played here recently, didn't recover the way some fans wanted them to.