They basically said that a QB like Eli comes around every ten years. They said go ask the Raiders, Bucs, Jags, Vikes and Bills if they would take Manning. Banks basically said the light shines on the skill positions but when you don't have a solid OL and blocking TE, then this is what you'll get. Banks went on to say Manning has already proved himself, ie, a two time SB MVP. I'm just summing up what they said about Manning. They mentioned the invisible DEs and the LB position as well.
But he can't run like Bob or Wilson or Kaepernick so he's unathletic? Is that even a word?
I really wish some people on BBI would stop bullshitting the rest of us and just go root for another team.
it's hard to tell. I like Bridgewater alot but the Big East/AAC is the elephant in the room. BUT, he did beat Florida in the Sugar Bowl.
Even when they're critical of Manning, they're careful to couch it because of who they're employed by (or at least who backs the stations that employ them). The day that stops is probably the day actual worthwhile speculation about Eli's future here should begin.
Oddly enough, I think Bob Papa's job with the Giants is more secure than just about anyone elses'.
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This is more for the WRs who misread what Eli does, than Eli. The Zampese/Norv Turner type of offense would be my favorite to see Eli run: a much less complex offense that is also a plug-and-play system that still incorporates the long ball.
Exactly why he'll be a perfect for the Browns, Norv's current team, in a trade. ;)
Elite QBs don't play as crappy as this and make boneheaded or sloppy panicky throws that Eli has now done with nonstop propensity dating back to last season.
I'm not saying we should dump, but Eli needs to be honest and take a real hard look this offseason at what kind of QB he is going forward and system he wants to play in. I'm a believer a guy like Eli at this stage of his career and age would absolutely thrive in a WCO style offense that a guy like Reid or Gruden runs.
I'm not sure Eli is a fit anymore for the boom or bust vertical offense that Coughlin loves, especially since the system has shown serious vulnerabilities when a running game is nonexistent and an OL that needs to typically hold longer for big plays, can't even push the line of scrimmage.
You can bitch about the line all you want but other qb's play behind bad lines. The Packers line isn't full of all-pros and neither is the Lions. But Stafford and Rodgers have to stand up behind them and complete the pass. You don't see them on pass to throw 35 int's or throw 3 picks in the 4th quarter when the team is down by 2 points.
So, it is silly to talk about replacing Eli but he is pressing and not playing well.
Eli is certainly to blame for a lot of the INTs, but he does have a bad OL, no running game, and an offense that is so complicated he frequently isn't on the same page as his WRs. I tend to agree that he will flourish if these problems are fixed. I also think that is how the situation will be viewed by the FO.
But this doesn't completely explain or exonerate his bad play this year or last. We aren't trading him, even if we wanted to absorb the $7M cap hit. But a really rotten season might mean the Giants restructure his contract in a way to minimize any cap hit if he is released in 2015.
boom or bust, can't live and die by that strategy every week.
You
can just see it in the way this team ays that they don't believe in their coaches and their strategy, this is it for
them. Bring on the Cowher! I cant wait for top 5 draft picks, hopefully trade downs ensue and this team
can build for the rest if eli's time here rather quickly.
It's so damn frustrating to see the entire game hinge on one guy making the minor adjustment at the same time his QB is instead of running a simple route like Ruben Randle and the slant.
After seeing it over and over I don't blame Eli for trying to get the ball out on the 1st INT and it looks like he was already cocking to throw when he was hit in the head. We cleared out with 4 verticals and Jacobs released underneath and out and could have gotten a big gain but the corner blitz was perfectly disguised and the protection didn't slide (maybe Jacobs should have seen and not released - not sure). Beatty got beat by Cole outside which gave the DB a clean corner and Boothe just stood there looking around. Even if he had doubled down on Cordile's man he clears a better lane and Eli can probably get the throw off. All ELi has to do is get it out beyond Kendricks who was in no man's land and either Jacobs catches it or it falls harmlessly incomplete. But like everything with this fucking team every bounce lands on worst case scenario.
The last two drives end on INT's that are firmly on his WRs while the pass protection breaks down and the defense once again opens the 2nd half flood gates. So, I don't get the venom. I really think some people sit on BBI/nfl.com and don't actually watch the game.
He looked much, much better in the 3rd quarter which is probably what you remember.
Cruz stumbled coming out of a jerk route on the 3rd and 3 and couldn't get to the ball. Nicks let up coming out of his break on the slant looking for the ball at that point for some reason - the throw was in same place as all the other ones he completed - it's a timing route.
Missed a bunch of throws high? When? Not to this point in the game. At all. The only times we went short were when we went to the hurry up which we completed a bunch up until Jacobs fumbled it away. Coupled with Randle's 2nd drop of a perfectly thrown deep ball and you have the main culprits of the 2nd quarter dry spell.
Just shut your mouth.
It's like asking a fish to climb a tree.