LaCanfora CBS: Giants should be sellers

think anyone would want those players. What do you Hakeems worth is right now. Lots of drops hanging his QB out. Tucks value is even worse.

basically nothing in a trade right now. Nicks and Joseph are a different story.

but Justin Tuck's stock is lower than ever. They'd be lucky to scratch out a 7th round pick for him.

He's been washed up for some time.

that we are going to sit them and play rookies, if their play continues as is?!

but the only guys that are going to net you quality draft picks are Eli and JPP, and both probably arent available

If someone would give us a 3rd or 4th for Tuck (unlikely) I'd consider that. Nicks I just assume keep unless someone gives us a 1st (again, unlikely).

If someone gives us a 3rd rounder for Tuck, I take that & run.

is trading anything for Tuck. I'd be surprised if we could even get a 7th.

The problem with trading Nicks is the one he cites as a partial reason to do so, namely that we can always get him back in FA next year. But that's exactly why teams would be reluctant to trade for him, unless they work out a long term contract before the trade. Nobody wants a rental, unless maybe all they give up is a very low pick.

Not finishing his route on one interception, waiting for balls to fall in his breadbasket instead of his patented PLUCKING it out of the air, and playing with no passion or care about winning.

It's as if he's saying: "Yo Eli and Cruz, go earn those gig paychecks...I'm still waiting on mine"

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but Tuck will retire a Giant this offseason.

He's DONE. Maybe he will go to camp for another team but I dont see him staying on.

I say don't overestimate our talent. But a contending team could use someone like Tuck or Jenkins or Rolle or Nicks.

Tuch still have value, IMO. We are critiquing a guy on a team where every DE looks like crap. That leads me to believe its part scheme, part old regime wearing off.

I can see Tuck landing with a contender that needs leadership at the DE spot that con give a young guy some rest. 49ers and Texans come to mind.

However, I don't think Tuck is trade-able.

dismissing Tuck's value on a contending team probably sound like Cowboys fans did back in 1990 when Everson Walls came to the Giants.

for a late round pick and get his contract off our hands.

he is the weakest link on the DL.

I believe he can be tendered next year, which will produce a higher draft pick if he leaves than what they could get today.

With Nicks :
If there is any thoughts to not extending him trade him, unless the Giants are absolutely willing to at least offer money that was handed out to the #1's this past off season. He should be traded.

Really there is nothing else of worth on the offensive side of the ball. Eli is not going anywhere.

Rolle:
We might actually get something decent here, but he is making a lot of money.

Tuck:
Even a 7 is worth it at this point.

Kiwi:
Even a 7 is worth it at this point.

Webster:
I'd put feelers out

I'd say trade a LB or 2, but we wouldn't even get a bag of game used balls back.

Linval will be a UFA.

we should be able to do better than 7th rounder for many of these guys. You don't think a team like the Broncos could use some of our defenders?

If a guy like Nicks is going to be a problem, sure because you have another WR who can step up. But firesale the team is just silly.

I would love to get another 1st rounder though. If we get a high first round pick, you have to be able to go BPA, but need to be able to get an Oline and LB. BPA with your top pick, OLine with the 2nd 1st rounder (say Nicks), and ILB with an (assumed early) 2nd round pick could be a huge score for this team on draft day.

but shouldn't the comp picks that we would get for Nicks/Tuck if they leave as Free Agents be better than what someone would offer?

from a cap perspective

his contract, via trade, for even a 7th.

The player he flashed at times and actually was in 2008 just isn't now. The team probably contributed heavily to that, but... it is what it is.

That's a joke and anyone suggesting it is an idiot. Nicks, I don't know. I'm sure you could get something but I don't care about the 0-5 you can't send up the white flag. Not now not ever really.

Tuck is done.

to accommodate these vets with big price tags?

Bengals? Texans?

highest comp pick is a 3rd rounder, which is at the end of the round. I imagine Nicks would almost certainly net us a 3rd rounder, depending on what FA we sign. I can't see Tuck getting a deal any where that would get us more than a 6 or 7. We'll probably be signing a number of FAs that will offset Tuck and probably even Nicks.

playmaker. If I'm a contending team he's worth a #2 pick or even a #1 if I know I'm drafting low in the round. Is Tuck even a good player at this point? Even if he is, he's always a big risk to stay healthy. Can't see anyone giving up more than a fifth rounder or maybe a fourth for him. Rolle is still good but he's got a big cap #, correct? Won't be easy to trade if that's the case.

And no one's going to trade much for a DE who stops the run but can't generate any heat on the QB.

I could see contenders being interested in Joseph but not Tuck.

Rolle would be a wash if we traded him now.

SHould be the first in line for the services of Nicks

They get a top flight receiver and they are rolling into the playoffs at this point.

Not too early. The trade deadline is in three weeks.

AJ Green + Nicks

Brady with Nicks

Luck with Nicks

yeah, you're right... I thought he had more bonus money left than that. Remaining salary saved would offset the accelerated bonus.
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Unless he specifically asked to be traded, I'd let him retire a Giant

played well against the run. Pass rush has been non-existent.

I wish I knew why the Giants can't generate a pass rush. Even JPP, the past two seasons is ineffective.

In a few more games trading him will cost them 1 or 2 mil on the cap and they can't afford that.

Fewell last the season?

That is three games between now and then and we play on Thursday. As bad as things have been, it's not like there wasn't good things with KC and Philly games.

how the heck are we going to resign this guy...to how the heck can we trade this guy....sad state of affairs in giantsland right now.....

As I thought and would have liked.

I agree with you I think Nicks and especially Joseph would be hot commodities on the open market. First I would try to hammer out a deal with both before making a move but if contract negotiations don't progress then I would make a move.

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actually, we would save money on a Rolle trade. We'd only be eating an extra $2 million in bonus money that isn't already on this year's cap, and at worst we'd be saving 3.5 million (half of his $7 million for this year) of his salary. Even factoring in the need to add salary to replace him on the roster, we'd get a net cap gain.

Linval Joseph, who is only 24, and is pretty good at his job??

He and Hankins should be the fixtures on the DL for years.

Tuck might net a 6th.

And get our pick back? Because by the time he is ready to contribute they will be 0-8

trade Linval. I'm merely pointing out he will not be a RFA.

There are some players on this team who may be on the downside of their careers, but the bring championship-level experience and leadership to a team that may need a piece or two to get over the top.

Hell, George Young gave up a 2nd round pick for a supposedly washed up OJ Anderson in '86.