im not saying wether this coaching staff should stay or go, but in all honesty if we had to replaced TC, who in reality would you choose? this is just message board fun so no flaming... me, I would give Jon Gruden a chance to work with ELI.... and get him a good DC.. and see what he can do...
Shaw, O'Brien, and Zimmer are very attractive names.
I fucking could careless at this point of we keep TC or let him go. Personally, I think he can still coach but Coughlins problem hhe hires coordinators that aren't that good. We will be on our 5th DC and then our 3rd OC. I could deal with that if the coordinators are good. If not then we can say fuck it and just fire everyone. I just think he can still coach but bothsystems have hit their eexpiration date so to speak.
In a perfect world, would love to keep TC and have Norv Turner as OC- won't happen, but I can dream.
They're not going to let him go, from his OC gig there, to make a lateral move to be OC here, even if the Giants somehow did have interest in him for that role.
However, if we get a 4-12 crash and burn, all bets are off and I think the Giants would look to go in a totally different direction. For one thing, the Giants have not had a defensive minded head coach since Parcells (Handley, Reeves, Fassel and Coughlin all offensive coaches). The Giants defense has been in a decline for years and this year is Sheridanian in it's embarassment.
That said, and as much of a joke or whatever you want to call the Cowher stuff on BBI, I know that he's interested in the job. Period. So we'll have to see if the Giants have the interest in the other direction. In some cases, the Coughlin hire seemed inevitable back in 2003 as the season went to hell with Fassel. I have a feeling if things continue as badly for the rest of the way, Cowher might well end up being the same deal.
I don't want Cowher here at all.
Bill O'Brien is interesting.
That's my top 5.
I wouldn't mind leaving TC as the guy who manages the games, gives the speeches and runs the practices, but hiring an OC who has full control of the offense. I'd love to see Spags back as DC.
Secondly, coming in to NY, he starts off with a team that has a 2 time Super Bowl MVP at QB, a great deal of talent at the skill positions, and a defensive line that should be a lot better with guys like JPP, Kiwi, Moore, etc. There is a great deal to work with here so you can turn things around pretty quickly. For Cowher, he wouldn't have to find a QB, he's got one, which is the #1 thing a coach looks for.
You add in those parts, a potentially high draft pick, and cap room, the Giants are a very attractive job. From the Giants standpoint, Cowher is a known quantity, he's a defensive coach, and his ties to the Steelers allows the Giants access into his past thanks to the Rooney connections.
All I know is that I heard of his interest in the job before Bettis came out and said it a few years ago, and from what I understand, he is still very interested in it.
2. I can't imagine for a second John Mara wanting to employ a Ryan, even with Rex being a great defensive coach.
Would be great to get them both, but I'd be happy with O'Brien and Spags as a DC.