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What's Wrong With Your Giants? - Responses?

Trainmaster : 10/7/2013 2:36 pm
When friends, family, co-workers come up to you with the "Heh, what's wrong with your Giants?" question, how have you been responding? (I assume most / all of us have been receiving that question and we will even more so now that the Giants are 0-5).

Basically there are two types of folks who ask: 1) The jerk big fan of another team who's been looking to needle you for years and 2) the casual fan who is at least semi-honestly surprised and wants some kind of explanation.

For 1) (especially Cowboys, Redskins or Eagles fans), the proper reply is "#$%*@! you, your team can only dream of the success the Giants have had in recent years".

For 2), what have you been saying? Well, we've had a higher than average number of injuries, our GM didn't pay enough attention to our OL and LBs, teams have figured out our game plans ...

Looking for some good, meaningful answers for 2) (I've got 1) covered).
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I  
CapeGman : 10/7/2013 4:19 pm : link
say that the game is won at the line of scrimmage. Both our lines for the most part are playing like a@@.
Z yes I am serious  
Patrick77 : 10/7/2013 4:21 pm : link
Their offensive lines are outplaying the Giants current group. The Raiders start Mccants, a guy cut from the Giants.
The Raiders even can win games weirdly enough. The Seahawks have had 3 starters out.

So "lol, are you serious?" all you want. Some of us actually watch other NFL teams play.
Patrick  
ZGiants98 : 10/7/2013 5:32 pm : link
I'm not trying to be disrespectful but your pointing to a team that's 0-5 and worst then we are as a team that has been struck by o-line problems. I don't follow your logic. If anything your strengthening my point. I'll give you Seattle though although they didn't lose 3 starters in a week or two.
I told them it's Reese's Algebra  
jcn56 : 10/7/2013 5:34 pm : link
Win a SB every 4 years. 2007 -> 2011 -> see you in 2015.
And again....  
ZGiants98 : 10/7/2013 5:39 pm : link
Even with the hell that's been unleashed on the line it's starting to balance out. It's not as bad as it was a few weeks ago. It still comes down to penalties and mistakes for me. We've been in every game except Carolina. If the roster was so void of talent that wouldn't be the case.
I usually just say…...  
Simms11 : 10/7/2013 5:50 pm : link
they suck - worst Giants team I've ever seen.
Bingo  
Kyle : 10/7/2013 5:53 pm : link
Quote:
This is essentially the 2011 team with 2 years of championship fat, wear and tear, contract issues, and film in other teams' meeting rooms.


We decided to take two additional runs with the same 9-7 football team that managed to morph into a playoff juggernaut, doubling down on what got us there, rather than taking a rather harsh but needed self-assessment.

We won the SB in a low percentage manner, and decided that was somehow the best way moving forward to maximize our chances because it had actually worked, and therefore it must have been the best way.
^ That's a really great  
bigbluehoya : 10/7/2013 5:56 pm : link
Articulation of exactly how I feel about the situation.
Yes.  
ZGiants98 : 10/7/2013 6:07 pm : link
The Giants won the SuperBowl in 2011 and decided they did it and no changes were needed. They re-signed Boley. They re-signed Canty. They re-signed Bradshaw. They didn't have two drafts focusing on key areas of improvement like the o-line. They didn't focus on improving a huge weakness last year at DT. They re-signed Phillips. Yep they completely rested on their laurels.
Works for both #1 and #2  
mrvax : 10/7/2013 6:21 pm : link
"Well, you can't win the Superbowl every year. Time to rebuild."
Very good summary Terps:  
mrvax : 10/7/2013 6:24 pm : link
Quote:
This is essentially the 2011 team with 2 years of championship fat, wear and tear, contract issues, and film in other teams' meeting rooms. It's still a Nicks and Cruz game.

The issues  
RB^2 : 10/7/2013 6:29 pm : link
are beginning to look systemic in nature, which is troubling. When you're losing by 20 points a game, it's not just a break here and there.
I've been asked - by people who are honestly curious...  
baadbill : 10/7/2013 8:25 pm : link
Answer is straight forward.

1. Giants organization has failed totally when it comes to adding young talent. They have virtually nothing to show for the drafts and free agency over the past few years.

2. This summer GM put a count down clock in the Giants locker room because he thought the team he had assembled was a legitimate contender to be the first team in NFL history to play a SB in its own stadium. In other words, the single most important evaluator of talent for the team, didn't have a clue how little talent there was on his own team.

End of story.
BaadBill  
Trainmaster : 10/8/2013 11:59 am : link
summed it up very well.

We were "patching" when we needed some selected demolition and rebuilding. Now it's time to essentially bulldoze the whole thing (save Eli, Cruz, Prince, and maybe Randle and JPP).
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