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Barnwell Grantland: The New York (Football) Injured Giants

Defenderdawg : 10/10/2013 11:30 am
"It seems pretty clear that something is rotten here. No team should have this many players taken in the top half of drafts either out of the league or playing at far less than their level of ability because of injuries. It's just difficult to parse out what that problem is, exactly. Is it that Reese is somehow identifying and selecting players who are particularly prone to injuries? Is Coughlin overworking his players in a way that's more likely to put young players on the shelf? Can it be just randomness, that a sample size of about 30 players who might have had meaningful careers with the team just happens to have more injuries than anybody would have expected? I honestly don't know the answer..."
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injuries are Reese's fault  
Dylan fan : 10/10/2013 5:18 pm : link
So are sun spots, cancer, bunions, AIDS, erosion, pollution, floods, hurricanes, tsunamis, fires, poverty, crime & Miley Cyrus. He didn't have to make a deal with the devil; he IS the devil. He should be crucified immediately.

For the 4th time I'm posting Ozzie Newsome's picks from 2007-2012 & rather likely the 4th time everyone will ignore it b/c it shows that Reese has done at least as good a job as Newsome, who is - along w/ Reese - rather widely considered 1 of the best GMs:

2012
2 Courtney Upshaw LB - 9 starts, 55 tackles, 1.5 sack 2012
2 Kelechi Osemele OT - starter all 2012
3 Bernard Pierce RB - 4.9 avg/108 carries 2012
4 Gino Gradkowski G - 0 starts 2012; 3 starts @ C this year
4 Christian Thompson S - 0 starts 2012
5 Asa Jackson CB - 1 game 2012
6 Tommy Streeter WR - nada 2012; on BUF 2013
7 Deangelo Tyson DE - 12 tackles 2012

1.5 starters
nada from 5 picks 4-7

2011
1 Jimmy Smith CB - 8 starts, 2 INT, 60 tackles
2 Torrey Smith WR - 33 starts, 115 rec, 15 TDs
3 Jah Reid LG - 7 starts 2012
4 Tandon Doss WR - 0 starts, 7 rec 2012; OOF 2013
5 Chykie Brown CB - 1 start; 17 tackles
5 Pernell McPhee DE/DT - 6 starts, 7.5 sacks, 47 tackles
6 Tyrod Taylor QB - 9 games, 0 starts, 30 passes
7 Anthony Allen RB - 0 starts, 19 rushes

1 starter
1 decent backup
1 1st round bust so far
nada from 4/5 picks 4-7

2010
2 Sergio Kindle LB - 3 games, 0 starts, 1 tackle
2 Terrence Cody DT - 20 starts, 78 tackles
3 Ed Dickson TE - 33 starts, 87 rec, 918 yds
4 Dennis Pitta TE - 7 starts, 102 rec, 1075 yds
5 David Reed WR - 0 starts, 5 rec; on INDY 2013
5 Art Jones DE - nada
6 Ramone Harewood T - nada

1 2nd round bust
2 1 year starters
nada from 3/4 picks 4-6

2009
1 Michael Oher T - 67 starts
2 Paul Kruger DE/LB - 6 starts, 16.5 sacks, 72 tackles in 4 BAL yrs; on CLE 2013
3 Lardarius Webb DB/PR/KR - 28 starts, 8 INT, 202 tackles
5 Jason Phillips LB - 1 FF 1 yr w/ BAL; nada w/ CAR 2 yrs
5 Davon Drew TE - nada
6 Cedric Peerman RB - didn't play for BAL; 1 start w/ DET, CIN

1 good starter
1 good 2nd round backup (they got 1 good year out of Kruger)
1 good 3rd round CB/R who has been injured
nada from 3/3 picks 5-6

2008
1 Joe Flacco - obvious; picked 18th
2 Ray Rice - obvious; 3 Pro Bowl; picked 55th
3 Tavares Gooden LB - 12 starts, 56 tackles in 3 BAL yrs,
3 Tom Zbikowski DB/PR/KR - 14 KRs/16 PRs/36 tackles in 4 yrs w/ BAL.
3 Oniel Cousins T - 4 starts in 3 BAL yrs
4 Marcus Smith WR - nada in 2 BAL yrs
4 David Hale T - 0 starts in 2 yrs
6 Haruki Nakamura DB - 0 starts, 26 tackles in 4 BAL yrs
7 Justin Harper WR - 2 games in 1 yr; nada
7 Allen Patrick RB - nada

2 starters, incl. franchise QB & Pro Bowl RB
1 decent backup
nada from 5/5 picks 4-7

2007
1 Ben Grubbs G - 70 starts in 5 BAL yrs; 1 PB; on NO 2012, 2013
3 Yamon Figurs PR/KR - 7.9 PR/23.3 KO avg in 2 BAL yrs;
3 Marshall Yanda T/G - starter 75/86 games; 2 PB
4 Antwan Barnes LB - 0 starts, 5 sack, 1 INT, 22 tackles in 3 BAL yrs
4 Le'Ron McClain RB - 54 starts, 3.8 avg, 12 TDs in 4 BAL yrs; 2 PB
5 Troy Smith QB - 2 starts, 89 passes, 79.7 QBR in 3 BAL yrs
6 Prescott Burgess LB - 0 starts, 9 tackles in 4 BAL yrs

3 starters/Pro Bowlers
1 decent PR/KOR but for only 2 years
nada from 3/4 picks 4-6

Out of 46 picks:
11 starters
5 decent to good backups
4 Pro Bowlers (3 in 2007; 1 played 5 yrs, another 4)
1 franchise QB who a lot of BBIers think is overrated
1 1st round bust so far
1 2nd round bust
3/26 rounds 4-7

I didn't look to see how often those picks were injured. Last week I also posted the # of players on the injury report for every team. Some teams had 30 players on it. I think the Giants were in the middle w/ 15. Lots of players get injured around the NFL.
49ers 2008-2012  
Defenderdawg : 10/10/2013 5:44 pm : link
Code:

2008

SF
1. Balmer DT 2008-2012 SF 27GP SEA 11GP-11GS WAS 3GP Out of NFL
2. Rachal G 2008-2012 SF 45GP-38GS CHI 9GP-8GS Out of NFL
3. Smith DB 2008-2011 SF 45GP-7GS Out of NFL
4. Wallace C 2009-2013 SF 1GP HTN TB 8GP PIT
6. Morgan WR 2008-2013 SF 49GP 32GS WAS 20GP 16GS
7. Grant LB 2008-2012 STL 34G 8GS SF 32GP 3GS

2009

SF
1. Crabtree WR 2009-2013 SF 58GP 56GS On IR
3. Coffee RB 2009 SF 14GP 2GS Out of NFL
5. McKillop LB 2009 SF 16GP Out of NFL
5. Davis QB 2009 0GP Out of NFL
6. Pascoe TE 2009-2013 NYG 55GP 27GS
7. Taylor DB 2009-2013 SF 12GP AZ
7. Jean-Francois DT 2009-2013 SF 45GP 2GS IND 2GP 2GS

2010

1. Davis RT 2010-2013 SF 53GP 53GS
1. Iupati LG 2010-2013 SF 49GP 49GS
2. Mays DB 2010-2013 SF 16GP 6GS CIN 30GP 4GS
3. Bowman LB 2010-2013 SF 53GP 38GS
6. Dixon RB 2010-2013 SF 53GP
6. Byham TE 2013-2013 SF 14GP 3GS TB 14GP 4GS
6. Williams WR 2010-2013 SF 34GP 6GS
7. Adams DB 2010-2013 SF 15GP NE 6GP SEA 1GP OAK 20GP 3GS

2011

1. Smith DE 2011-2013 SF 35GP 19GS
2. Kaepernick QB 2011-2013 SF 21GP 12GS
3. Culliver DB 2011-2013 SF 32GP 6GS
4. Hunter RB 2011-2013 SF 32GP 1GS
5. Kilgore OL 2011-2013 SF 17GP
6. Johnson WR 2011-2012 PHI Out of NFL
6. Jones DB 2011-2013 SF 13GP CAR 16GP
7. Miller FB 2011-2013 SF 36GP 26GS
7. Person OL 2011 0GP Out of NFL
7. Holcomb DB 2011-2012 SF JAX Out of NFL

2012

1. Jenkins WR 2012-2013 SF 3GP KC 2GP
2. James RB 2012-2013 SF 6GP
4. Looney G 2012 0GP Out of NFL
5. Fleming OLB 2012 0GP Out of NFL
6. Robinson FS 2012 0GP Out of NFL
6. Slowey C 2012 OAK 0GP Out of NFL
7. Johnson DE 2012-2013 SF 2GP IND 2GP
So how are the top teams putting their teams  
Bill in UT : 10/10/2013 7:03 pm : link
together?
This article can be written about every single team  
mattnyg05 : 10/10/2013 7:13 pm : link
It's just that you can't write about teams who are 3-2. The giants are in "crisis mode" this season but every teams draft record looks pretty similar.

People like reading about shitty, disastrous teams, especially ones with big time players and coaches. If the giants were 2-3, we wouldn't be reading this.
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