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TT on 0-6: "I think some don't care."

Bramton1 : 10/11/2013 4:57 pm
Tweet from Vacchiano
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Are the Giants players pissed at being 0-6? "I think some are," said Terrell Thomas. "I think some don't care." #NYG


Holy shit.
didn't  
OPBigBlue00 : 10/11/2013 4:58 pm : link
need TT to know that
That is the single most alarming quote  
81_Great_Dane : 10/11/2013 4:58 pm : link
to come from all of this.

The players never care as much as the fans, but if your team is 0-6, you'd better care, if only because your job is at risk.
Old vets...  
shabu : 10/11/2013 4:59 pm : link
Some old vets have to go...
So much team unity  
fadeproof : 10/11/2013 4:59 pm : link
Though are any one surprised that a quote like this comes out when a team gets off to a bad start
Watch Tuck's effort  
Superman10 : 10/11/2013 5:01 pm : link
or lack thereof on the Alshon Jefferey end-around. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that some players don't care.
any guesses to which  
Route 9 in LEH : 10/11/2013 5:01 pm : link
players he's implyin do not care?
You take any roster of 53 men and see how many "don't care."  
Big Blue '56 : 10/11/2013 5:02 pm : link
Those who don't really care will be gone. There's plenty of future talent that would give their eyeteeth to be put in a position to care
things will get worse  
OPBigBlue00 : 10/11/2013 5:02 pm : link
before this over
Myers doesn't play like he cares.  
Exit 172 : 10/11/2013 5:02 pm : link
Losing in Oakland is in his blood.
Oh Tuck cares. I believe that.  
Big Blue '56 : 10/11/2013 5:04 pm : link
He just appears to be no longer capable of doing his job effectively. He'd be more frustrated with himself than fit into the uncaring group, imo
Banks on Wfan this morning  
micky : 10/11/2013 5:05 pm : link
was asked about Could you see the locker room fracture in coming weeks if the team continues to lose? Banks said, right now he doesn't see it with this team. A lot have that fight.

However, if the losing continues, he (Banks) said it could fracture if you have guys in there playing with their heart, and playing hard game-in-game out, leaving it out on the field, and then see some guys start acting like they mailed it in or don't give a sh*t anymore. Then there would be fracture in there. Banks said he went through situations like this and saw it happen. But right now, as of today, he didn't think so.

So TT's comment here is interesting
Did you ever have a job like this?  
Jupiter : 10/11/2013 5:05 pm : link
Your company takes on bad contract after bad contract and can't seem to get an easy one that goes smoothly without a lot of problems.

Management panics and starts making some bad decisions.

Employees keep their heads low and try to just do their job and stay out of trouble. Some start looking forward to a new job.

WELCOME TO THE GIANTS 2013 SEASON !!
Bench those who don't care  
Emil : 10/11/2013 5:05 pm : link
Coughlin will do it
Too much can be made  
oldutican : 10/11/2013 5:07 pm : link
of quotes like this.
SEND A MESSAGE!  
Route 9 in LEH : 10/11/2013 5:07 pm : link
"We will tolerate 0-6, but not 0-7!!!"
Not a surprise  
JonC : 10/11/2013 5:08 pm : link
Football is just a job for some men, not uncommon for a big group of adults to struggle even for a common cause.

Yes, this figures to only be the start of the public comments to the media.
Everyone cares  
Jerry in DC : 10/11/2013 5:09 pm : link
It's just different degrees of caring, which is natural. Some guys are probably all-consumed by it. Some guys are better at compartmentalizing. Some guys just show up to do their job.

And it can change over time, even for a give player. Anybody who's played sports has this. Sometimes losses just eat you up and sometimes you get over them really quickly and don't care about it too much.
He said "I think"  
mikeygiants : 10/11/2013 5:09 pm : link
some don't care. After 0-6 fingers have got to be pointing every which way.
Read Joey's 'Out on a Limb' section of the Eagles game review.  
Racer : 10/11/2013 5:10 pm : link

I happen to agree, and Joey said the same types of things about the defense before the 'mutiny' by the secondary against PW in 2011 as well.
a STATEMENT cut needs to be made here  
andrew_nyg : 10/11/2013 5:11 pm : link
whether the guy TRULY deserves it or not, it needs to be someone who will make every one of these fuckers pause and wonder about his own job. (like a Tuck or a Rolle)

THEN you will see if there are any leaders ready to step up and start to take control.

That's when you will find out whether a house cleaning is in order.
the general problem with playing older vets  
mdc1 : 10/11/2013 5:14 pm : link
is that if they are generally on their way out they just want to get paid and probably don't care. That is why you need to continually be looking for better players at every spot.

I always find it comical that Reese says he wants to see competition at camp. Given that we play the vets and never the other guys it seems disingenuous or they select guys that aren't that good and the vets will alway prevail yet they won't be able to beat other teams players one-on-one.
boothe  
Fish : 10/11/2013 5:16 pm : link
Was laughing it up after the game.
Young and Hungry  
Steve in South Jersey : 10/11/2013 5:16 pm : link
Giants need a major infusion of young and hungry players.
RE: a STATEMENT cut needs to be made here  
David in LA : 10/11/2013 5:17 pm : link
In comment 11273362 andrew_nyg said:
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whether the guy TRULY deserves it or not, it needs to be someone who will make every one of these fuckers pause and wonder about his own job. (like a Tuck or a Rolle)

THEN you will see if there are any leaders ready to step up and start to take control.

That's when you will find out whether a house cleaning is in order.


Andrew, Tuck needed to be let go over the offseason. I don't know about us cutting him now, looks like we want to hold onto his cap figure for next year so we can cut him and get the savings then.
Banks was talking abiut this today  
UberAlias : 10/11/2013 5:18 pm : link
He was asked if the team could pack it in. He said yes but did not think they were there now. He said once the guys who are fighting start seeing everyone else not caring and people no longer getting angry over the losses, that is when you would need to worry.
The issues I am seeing are not due to lack of want  
UberAlias : 10/11/2013 5:19 pm : link
I don't sense that. That may come eventually. I sure hope they aren't there yet.
nyg9298 or whatever cares  
Route 9 in LEH : 10/11/2013 5:21 pm : link
makes references to being envious of his dead family members and uses a blowout to Carolina as a lesson as if it were an after school special.
This a d*amn shame  
Geeman : 10/11/2013 5:25 pm : link
That game came down to Eli's last pick. That team fought hard all game long despite being put in a hole with Eli's second that went back for 6, and now we are hearing players some players don't care?
I have trouble buying that, cause they didn't play like it.
I'm sure TT cared but let's be honest he didn't play well. Tuck probably still cares but he's a shell of his former self. Giants need to use the rest of the season to evaulate which players deserve to wear that uniform in 2014.
My thoughts on Beason:  
MOOPS : 10/11/2013 5:28 pm : link
He was brought in at least in part to stem any negative undercurrents that might have been sensed in the locker room.
TT's comments shouldn't surprise  
BlackLight : 10/11/2013 5:28 pm : link
Guys will invariably quit when things get bad enough. Especially if they start to get a sense that the coach isn't going to be around next season. It's incredibly selfish - but you can understand the impulse - there's no sense at all in playing hard (and risking injury) for a coach who's not going to have a job next fall. Witness the 2003-04 team in the last 8 games, once it became clear (unofficially) that Fassel wasn't coming back.

I don't think we're there yet, and I think there are certain guys in visible positions who know they're playing to stay in the league next season. As well as some vets who simply respect Coughlin too much to lay down like dogs.
Geeman  
Sneakers O'toole : 10/11/2013 5:29 pm : link
I tend to agree. I see a team that is fighting. Whether or not that holds if they keep losing will remain to be seen, but this team up to this point has been fighting. They haven't been mailing these games in.
I've been in quite a few very highly ranked organizations  
jcn56 : 10/11/2013 5:46 pm : link
And I've yet to find one where some people don't give a shit. It's human nature.

The question is, how many of them don't care? When they start to outnumber those who do, you have a problem.
Bah.  
Randy in CT : 10/11/2013 5:48 pm : link
I'm starting to not care. Cut me!
Randee,  
Big Blue '56 : 10/11/2013 5:54 pm : link
that seems to be the case with you, ever since you put up that carport
Superman10  
Rob_MTL : 10/11/2013 6:03 pm : link
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Watch Tuck's effort
Superman10 : 5:01 pm : link : reply
or lack thereof on the Alshon Jefferey end-around. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that some players don't care.


What the hell are talking about, Tuck took on Bennett and force the play in side.
I wonder if the 1year contracts have hurt team unity.  
Torn Tendon : 10/11/2013 6:20 pm : link
Though it does seem that the guys with long term contracts are the ones playing the worst.
Dottino  
Bleedin Blue : 10/11/2013 6:50 pm : link
made a comment about the players that Reese has brought in. Dottino said that maybe some of them came from losing teams and don't know how to get mad and turn up their game, because they're used to losing. Doesn't sound so far fetched!!
RE: Superman10  
BlueHurricane : 10/11/2013 6:55 pm : link
In comment 11273508 Rob_MTL said:
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Quote:


Watch Tuck's effort
Superman10 : 5:01 pm : link : reply
or lack thereof on the Alshon Jefferey end-around. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that some players don't care.




What the hell are talking about, Tuck took on Bennett and force the play in side.


No he didn't he got ridden all the way to the sideline by Dante Rosario....... DANTE ROSARIO!!!!
Dottino  
cheeseburger : 10/11/2013 6:57 pm : link
I like him but it makes me cry that I don't have his job. He looks like a 70's car salesman that does porn on the side. Again, love the guy though.
I also wonder if it has something to do  
Reb8thVA : 10/11/2013 7:59 pm : link
With the one year contracts. We assume that they would play well looking for their next contract but maybe they just assume they will be somewhere else next year so why care.
I bet there will be some vets angry at the nepotism with Snee  
oipolloi : 10/11/2013 8:05 pm : link
They need to clear some cap room midseason and throw more money the way of a guy going on IR?

If I'm Justin Tuck or Corey Webster or David Diehl, I'm not too happy about that. I'm sure there are a lot of vets on the team who know their careers are winding down and would appreciate that extra money for all the years they put in with the Giants. And they give it to a guy who isn't even going to suit up? And that guy is the coach's son-in-law?

I can't speak for others, but I know I would be pissed if I were in their shoes


some like t2 and tuck  
SBlue46 : 10/11/2013 9:04 pm : link
are playing w/ heart and care but their bodies wont do
what they are telling it to..
BlueHurricane :  
Rob_MTL : 10/11/2013 9:39 pm : link
It was Rosario (not important) and NO he was NOT blocked to the sideline.
It was an unusual play and Tuck had to wait for the play to develop. Tuck did his FUCKING JOB, forcing the play inside.


Tuck - ( New Window )
Those who don't care have no place on this team.  
Geomon : 10/11/2013 9:44 pm : link
Michael Irvin had it right. Before Jimmy Johnson went to Dallas, Irvin made a list of all the guys on the roster that were just going through the motions. As soon as Jimmy arrived, they were gone.
@Rob_MTL  
MTDizzle : 10/11/2013 9:47 pm : link
Prince certainly whiffed on a potential tackle there. Tuck getting handled by Rosario isn't exactly encouraging either.
Micheal Irving !!! OMG  
Rob_MTL : 10/11/2013 9:47 pm : link
The crack head that stabbed a team-mate in the neck with a pair of scissors?

MTDizzle :  
Rob_MTL : 10/11/2013 9:51 pm : link
Did you notice WHERE the TE linedup? He had running start on his block.

Did you ever see that play before?
I believe TT  
Manningdynasty : 10/11/2013 10:29 pm : link
I think a lot of those "players" would prefer like to be in their luxury suites at the superbowl than on the field.
Say what u want about Michael Irvin  
djm : 10/12/2013 12:14 am : link
But there wasn't a more competitive WR to ever play this game. Irvin wanted it. I respect his take on shit like this. He played the game the right way and no one wanted to win and hated to lose more than Irvin. Guy was crying on the sidelines back in 97 when the giants beat them down the stretch that year.
Perhaps  
Torn Tendon : 10/12/2013 12:49 am : link
there are some players that are content with their 1 or 2 SB wins.

And possibly the 1 year contract guys don't have much of a commitment. Maybe it hurts the team cohesion.

The 1 year guys thinking more about their next payday and the guys that have been on the team longer not having the comradery, that "Band of Brothers" attitude that perennial contenders have.

With camps being so shortened, that might hurt that bonding that comes from everyone having put the grunt work in.
I wanted the team to part ways with Tuck this past offseason.  
j_rud : 10/12/2013 2:48 am : link
Had absolutely zero confidence that he would return to form. I love him as a Giant but the cumulative injuries and the admitted issues with motivation have spelled doom for him and I saw no reason to bring him back.
Barmton1  
bc4life : 10/12/2013 10:28 am : link
Need to include the entire article. Just posting that "some don't care" is misleading absent the rest of the quote.

RE: Bench those who don't care  
dguy901 : 10/12/2013 11:39 am : link
In comment 11273344 Emil said:
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Coughlin will do it
Coughlin does have 2 SB's but, I believe it is time for him to go. This team is in chaos. It is time for drastic change. Why on earth did Reese trade up to draft Nassib? Why is Fewell still the DC? Eli needs to clear his head and redeem himself. This season is over! JMHO.
RE: a STATEMENT cut needs to be made here  
dguy901 : 10/12/2013 11:41 am : link
In comment 11273362 andrew_nyg said:
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whether the guy TRULY deserves it or not, it needs to be someone who will make every one of these fuckers pause and wonder about his own job. (like a Tuck or a Rolle)

THEN you will see if there are any leaders ready to step up and start to take control.

That's when you will find out whether a house cleaning is in order.
Contracts must be honored!
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