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Jim Cordle - anyone noticing him?

PeterS : 10/17/2013 12:26 pm
When I have watched him he seems to be getting the job done. Shotgun snaps are on target. Can he be our starter in 2014?
He's not as bad  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2013 12:29 pm : link
as I thought he was going to be. Pass blocking is worse than run blocking, I'd prefer he's a backup to provide OL depth.
Suggest you watch with both eyes  
PEEJ : 10/17/2013 12:29 pm : link
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Be careful about re-assessing cordle after one game  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/17/2013 12:30 pm : link
The Bears are destroyed at DT. There is a reason we ran so well.
Shotgun snaps are OK  
njm : 10/17/2013 12:31 pm : link
But on some passing plays, he almost gets back to Eli faster than the snap.
we ran really well off tackle  
Gordo : 10/17/2013 12:32 pm : link
only one run i can remember that was up the gut, the 3rd and short play that bj broke for 10+ .. i think cordle is doing better then baas was at this point.. he isn't giving up sacks and making glaring mistakes, thats all you can ask for at this point... just pray he doesn't get hurt
Good point  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2013 12:33 pm : link
TTH. I thought Cordle did ok run blocking in the Chiefs game too though.

This guy is not someone you want in the starting lineup  
Curtis in VA : 10/17/2013 12:33 pm : link
on a permanent basis.

Fine as a backup.
looks like a mediocre backup OC at best  
GIANTSr01 : 10/17/2013 12:33 pm : link
I think he's "helped" playing next to Diehl since Diehl's often beaten so quick no one else matters.

I haven't noticed many positive plays in the run game from him and there's rarely a pocket for Eli to step up into, which is probably partly to blame for Beatty/Pugh struggling.
weak. gets pushed back. Boothe is better at C.  
Victor in CT : 10/17/2013 12:40 pm : link
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He did fine against the backup DTs of the Bears  
Jimmy Googs : 10/17/2013 12:41 pm : link
since Cordle is, afterall a backup himself. Baas wouldn't have done anything more.

I remember how comical it was though to watch Cordle in the first half of the pre-season game against the Jets DTs. They basically thru him around the field like a rag doll.
Not strong enough at POA...............  
Simms11 : 10/17/2013 12:57 pm : link
he constantly gets pushed back. He's been OK, but nothing more. Eli has not been able to step up in the pocket at times.

The Giants need a center that can knock the snot out of you and push the line back the other way. Cordle is not that guy.
I just looked back at those ints against the Bears  
Jimmy Googs : 10/17/2013 1:09 pm : link
to see if Cordle was at fault on any of them.

He was not.

But if you go back and watch the first int, you will literally LOL watching him try to block. Cordle doesn't engage anybody immediately but then a Bear (i think Peppers) comes into the middle and Cordle puts his head down to engage and basically falls onto the ground when Peppers moves a bit.

Comical.
Jim  
Vegas Steve : 10/17/2013 1:10 pm : link
is a below average players who is bearly backup quality.
He is sub standard in both the run and passing game.
He gets no push whatsoever  
Greg from LI : 10/17/2013 1:11 pm : link
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Vegas - I am not giving Cordle any pro bowl votes for sure  
Jimmy Googs : 10/17/2013 1:20 pm : link
but David Baas isn't going to show you much more on Monday night either.

Cordle would be "barely backup material" on most teams, but on the Giants he is almost a marginal starter.
Maybe it's like  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2013 1:27 pm : link
being the tallest midget, but he's been the second best NYG lineman after Boothe according to PFF (not counting Mosely's 5 snaps) - and Cordle has a negative overall grade.

he played well last week.. and has done a good job..  
Rsspro : 10/17/2013 1:27 pm : link
as a backup center when really needed and called upon.. however.. I don't think he's the type of player the Giants want to be their starting center now and moving forward..
.  
LT4LIFE : 10/17/2013 1:35 pm : link
With the amount of "football knowledge" that BBI collectively acts as if they posses, I am going to assume we have a ton of high school or college coaches in our ranks here, yes? No? You mean you just act like you know what 53 mens assignments were on each play from your lazy-boy? Legit.
I may not be an expert  
pjcas18 : 10/17/2013 1:38 pm : link
on x and o's of football, but I do know that 53-men don't have assignments on every play.
I noticed he's usually  
PEEJ : 10/17/2013 1:52 pm : link
the first guy there to help pick Eli up.
His snaps  
bob in tx : 10/17/2013 1:56 pm : link
look good.
RE: .BBI experts  
PeterS : 10/17/2013 2:04 pm : link
In comment 11283513 LT4LIFE said:
Quote:
With the amount of "football knowledge" that BBI collectively acts as if they posses, I am going to assume we have a ton of high school or college coaches in our ranks here, yes? No? You mean you just act like you know what 53 mens assignments were on each play from your lazy-boy? Legit.


We're what you call "sexual intellectuals"...you know..f'ing know-it-alls!
Seriously though,  
PeterS : 10/17/2013 2:06 pm : link
we've heard time and again that nothing improves a player like playing time. You really can't replicate it in practice or even pre-season. Perhaps for some Giants, 2013 will be a chance for them to upgrade their game.
L4  
Reale01 : 10/17/2013 2:36 pm : link
Watch Cordle.

He gets driven back virtually EVERY play. The pulling guards run into him which makes it impossible to pull someone across the formation unless you help Cordle with his man. He is often seen looking for someone to block in pass protection and gets pushed back into Eli if he is not given help. In short, you don't have to know "all the assignments" to see that he is a liability. I expect he tries hard - his limitations are physical and I don't expect improvement. He is a back-up - and not a good one.

On the bright side ... his snaps ARE good and he lines up in the right place on every play.
This is not the starting center you are looking for.  
GiantFilthy : 10/17/2013 2:38 pm : link
Reale01 - my favorite comment of the day  
Jimmy Googs : 10/17/2013 2:43 pm : link
"...and he lines up in the right place on every play."

LT4LIFE  
Rsspro : 10/17/2013 2:45 pm : link
yes..
As  
DG_89 : 10/17/2013 2:47 pm : link
many have said already he's decent backup/spot duty guy but not a starter
I think I mentioned on BBI that I had met Cordle  
lawguy9801 : 10/17/2013 2:48 pm : link
at a charity event in the spring and spoke to him for about 15 minutes. Super nice and humble guy, but the thing that struck me about him is that he was not a very big or imposing guy for an NFL offensive lineman. Not surprised he frequently gets pushed back by DLs.
RE: L4  
Victor in CT : 10/17/2013 2:50 pm : link
In comment 11283658 Reale01 said:
Quote:
Watch Cordle.

He gets driven back virtually EVERY play. The pulling guards run into him which makes it impossible to pull someone across the formation unless you help Cordle with his man. He is often seen looking for someone to block in pass protection and gets pushed back into Eli if he is not given help. In short, you don't have to know "all the assignments" to see that he is a liability. I expect he tries hard - his limitations are physical and I don't expect improvement. He is a back-up - and not a good one.

On the bright side ... his snaps ARE good and he lines up in the right place on every play.


Spot on reale01. Perfectly said.
I  
Toth029 : 10/17/2013 3:39 pm : link
Do know he was terrible vs. KC.
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