My friends and I were discussing this. Our nominees were Ian Allen, Bob Whitfield, and Jim Cordle. Obviously these are all somewhat recent.
he was decent for a little while when he wasn't head-butting opponents
Round from IVY league who never made it Hatch?
What a waste of a first round pick that was.
12th round draft pick of the Rams in 1978. Played in nine games for the Giants in 1979. His play stood out on a Monday Night football game against the Redskins, a game the Giants lost 27-0. Howard Cosell, a closet Giants fan, apologized to the viewers for being part of televising such ineptitude.
Just looking at him makes me angry.
but I will take your word if you are quoting Howard Cosell.
From more recent times, Ian Allen was just horrible. I recall Eagle games where their defensive lineman would push each to see who could line up across from Allen on 3rd downs.
Each season the Giants should hand out a Jeff Hatch award to the first OL cut.
punked him in practice, and the coaches bounced Frankie.
Tam Hopkins! A name I had completely erased from my memory. Until somebody comes up with the next winner, I've got to go with him, and even then I might not change my mind.
from that period. More recently the name Toby Myles comes to mind
but the Giants OL I disliked the most who actually might have been worse than Ian Allen and did much more damage on the field was Roy Simmons. If it wasn't for Simmons (and the idiot Handley) Phil Simms would probably be in the Hall of Fame .
PFF's rankings of him dont really support your argument. not bad, not good.
How about Wayne Lucier? Chris Bober?
is ok....he doesn't belong in this thread.
always brings to mind the immortal Rich Buzin. Maybe he wasn't actually the worst but he just symbolizes those dark times to me.
a name that will live in infamy
If people here watched him, they wouldn't even consider anyone else.
"False start! #77...ten yards...." Luke Penalty-gout
Baas is "good", when he is healthy. which isn't very often.
I don't know if he's Ian Allen bad, though
This current group of 5 (Beatty, Boothe, Cordle, Diehl and Pugh) should garner some votes.
is wrong with your brain when Petitgout comes to mind as worst OL in franchise history?
but Matt McCants was fooking awful. And now he's getting PT with Oakland. Go figure.
My friends brother plays at Cornell and was a standout field goal blocker during his career. In his house is a picture of him blocking a field goal and who is the person who fell down and made it possible. Jeff hatch. I see it every time I go over his house. A side note he's best friends with boothe as they were teammates at Cornell and co captains
came to mind first...Hatch was a disaster (3rd rounder if I remember correctly)
but he had a teammate, I think his name was Ron Miko...something who was pretty bad. He was a wrestler in the offseason. When Alex Webster cut Rich Buzin, he called him a 15-yard holding penalty waiting to happen.
but while we're discussing offensive lineman, I'd like to ask what the story was with John Hicks? He was a highly regarded lineman drafted by the Giants, but his career was pretty short and he didn't play after the Giants traded him to Pittsburgh.
Al Simpson 1975
Jeff Wiska 1982
Toby Miles 19998
Drew Srojny 2004
Hoarable mention to Wayne Lucier
I have to imagine these 1 to 2 year wonders who actually played in games since 1960 would have to be near the top of the list:
player POS yr drafted round
Matt McCants T 2012 6
Wayne Lucier G 2003 7
Jeff Hatch T 2002 3
Paul O'Connor G 1987 5
Steve Cisowski T 1986 8
Jack Oliver T 1985 6
Brian Johnston C 1985 3
Kevin Belcher C 1983 6
Jeff Wiska G 1972 7
Dan Fowler G 1979 10
Al Simpson G 1975 2
Carl Schaukowitch G 1973 15
Mark Ellison G 1971 11
Tony DiMidio T 1964 5
Frank Lasky T 1963 2
Ed Adamchik C 1963 12
Reed Bohovich G 1962 9
Bruce Tarbox G 1961 2
Moses Gray T 1961 9
Stats re games played were murkier pre-1960.
Here links to every OL the Giants ever drafted: Center - http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=1936&year_max=2013&type=&round_min=1&round_max=30&slot_min=1&slot_max=500&league_id=&team_id=nyg&pos=C&college_id=all&conference=any&show=all
Tackle - http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=1936&year_max=2013&type=&round_min=1&round_max=30&slot_min=1&slot_max=500&league_id=&team_id=nyg&pos=T&college_id=all&conference=any&show=all
Guard - http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=1936&year_max=2013&type=&round_min=1&round_max=30&slot_min=1&slot_max=500&league_id=&team_id=nyg&pos=G&college_id=all&conference=any&show=all
Bishop ...holding and offside king
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ray in arlington said:
| but while we're discussing offensive lineman, I'd like to ask what the story was with John Hicks? He was a highly regarded lineman drafted by the Giants, but his career was pretty short and he didn't play after the Giants traded him to Pittsburgh.
Are you referring to John "Holding!" Hicks?
He was well on his way to becoming a very good OC when a knee injury struck him down.
He was in a horrific car wreck that shattered his leg, much like Chad Jones.
Back in the 80s, I might've had a bit more spleef and wine than is good for the memory. Coulda swore it was a knee...
It's weird reading all this stuff about him LOL.
But it worked out OK for the Giants as they landed Bart Oates from the USFL as his replacement.
and then had some success with KC. He doesn't belong on the list at all.
I don't remember much about Lucier but Roehl and Allen came to my mind first. I had them over Hatch because I don't actually remember Hatch playing that much other than preseason. Perhaps I just blocked it out of my memory.
Maybe I crossed them up? Mendenhall was a heck of an NT too before he was injured.
...Curtis McGriff's career was ended by a knee injury
because CiP confirmed that Hatch successfully hid a back injury from the NYG medical staff.
If I'm not mistaken, he had a string of several weeks with multiple penalties each game. When he didn't commit a penalty, he simply whiffed.