or should we play for a top pick? Last week this question was posed and I felt that if we beat Philly, we should have a go at making something out of this season. With Dallas only two games in front and the next three games at home after the bye, why not take it one game at a time and see if we can apply pressure on the rest of the bad teams in the NFC East?
I know the offensive line is bad and I know the red zone problems persist, but the transition to a quicker passing game could pay dividends if it is effective. The deeper routes we're used to might just open up again. Hillis is giving us a running game that teams at least have to plan for. This bad offensive line is finally starting to show something in the run game.
The win over Philly just felt different. I know they had trash at QB but Shady McCoy can break open a game without a great QB and DJax is talented enough to make plays for a poor QB. The front four looked like themselves again, especially JPP and Tuck. That was the best game Tuck had since the 2011 Super Bowl run.
If anything, Beason brought stability to the LB unit and the other guys (Jacquian, Paysinger) can finally play in their right positions. Prince hasn't heard his name called in almost a month (which is a good thing for a corner) and Hill's return allows Rolle to make plays all over the field, which is what he likes to do as a freelancer back there. I think TT also took the third safety role at times. He's been a revelation since returning.
So as Giants fans, we should encourage our team to just have a go at it and see what happens. In the worst case scenario, we'll be anywhere between 4-12 and 6-10 and we'll draft a blue-chip offensive lineman. In the best case scenario, we'll win the NFC East and you have to believe with Eli at the helm in January
They will play to win till the end and let the chips fall where they may..
When the season ends we will know where they will be selecting..
I think they can make a run if they start to eliminate the stupid little penalties that are killing drives. There is nobody in the NFL that is so powerful that they cannot be beaten on any given Sunday by anyone.
It is no longer that type of league.
Stranger things have happened.
No one on this football team wants to tank. I think it was pretty evident yesterday. They still feel like they're in this thing.
I don't want to start over. Take your 4-5 out of the playoffs and blow. They won a super bowl 2 years ago. Coughlin and Eli can win in the playoffs. That's all that matters to me. When things are going well, this team can deliver a title.
Keep the ship from sinking....MAYBE earn the right to play meaningful December games...but at least we are playing meaningful November games...that's a start. Keep it up. Beat OAK and get to 3-6.
I think you want to win and enjoy games. At the same time be realistic about this team. 2 wins against 2 bad teams. Getting lit up by good teams.
Many key performers had to be added to the roster due to injury. Hillis, Conner, Beason.
one game at a time - next up oakland. if they can take care of oakland, which is by no means guaranteed, and hopefully these 2013 giants are humble enough to realize that they will have to go out and earn that win - then there is definitely still a lot of light left in the season and a pivotal home game against the packers.
i hate that there is a bye week here, the gmen have momentum and a relatively winnable home game next on their agenda.
They have had years of low round picks and all it has seemed to do is create a losing culture. You never play to lose
On offense, I saw a willingness to shorten up the passing routes, and some semblance of a running game. What I still need to see is finishing in the red zone and cleaning up the retarded procedure and delay of game penalties.
I think we beat Oakland, everyone gets their hopes up around here... and then Green Bay and Dallas soundly slam the door shut. Hope I'm wrong but I'm betting GB gives us some sound payback for last year's embarrassment.
The offense sucks. The Defense isnt as bad as they looked the first 6 games (which were all against terrific QBs, and they had to try and cover for a historic 23 turnovers in those 6 games too)... but they've certainly benefited from the opposing QB play the past 2 weeks too. Such is a NFL... a lot of mediocrity around the league.
After the bye, the Giants start a three-game home stand. They need at least two wins in those three games, and they absolutely must beat Dallas. Achieve those goals, and they will likely enter December within one game of the division lead. Does that strike you as a hopeless scenario?
I have no illusions about the 2013 Giants. They have utterly stunk. They are also one Da'Rel Scott bobble away from first place. Funny game, football.
I think the division is still very much up for grabs, which is a testament to how terrible it is. The Giants have a realistic shot to win the division and make the playoffs before eventually getting annihilated at Seattle or New Orleans. The Giants still don't look like a quality football team.
In terms of the draft, you can absolutely get an impact player with the 15th pick or so but being pushed back several slots in each round is definitely a cumulative disadvantage.
At this point, I'd have to consider myself pretty indifferent between the two choices but the pendulum can swing pretty far in each week.
Try to make the playoffs by any means necessary. Get in and with Eli at QB, anything can happen.
The Giants are nowhere near where they need to be offensively but the defense is pretty solid, relatively speaking. It's an IF, but if the offense can get a little better every week they can get on a little role.
We have seen this team rise and fall and rise again in year's past. Maybe they win a few here and then shit the bed, ending up 5-11. Maybe they win out. Unlikely...but you never know...or maybe they end up 8-8 and give us some enjoyment and save Coughlin's job. What if Andre Brown comes back and the running game takes off? This offense can improve.
All I want is 3-6 for now. Then you have GB and Dallas and that's when the season starts. Hopefully it doesn't end before @ Washington. I am just grateful to be going to the Oak game with at least some juice. Walking into the stadium that day should be fun.
Ok that's not happening. But it is the one thing that would top the last 2 runs. 7-9...super bowl champs. Got hot at the right time.
Joe is right on the money here. Our wins had just as much to do with 3rd string QBs as they did with our own level of play. Even if we beat the Raiders, we won't know anything about this team until we play the Rodgers-led Packers in three weeks time.
Really, the goal of the regular season is to make the playoffs.
Maybe they reverse the trend and get hot in November. They have been so streaky under Coughlin. IF they weren't streaky, they simply weren't playing. IT's who they are. Maybe they can orchestrate a reveral of streaks this season. Why the hell not.
Just get another one in two weeks. One at a time. Build a streak and build confidence.