Next 3 games: Raiders, Packers and Cowboys

At least from that perspective the mission is clear. Win all three and we can have a post-Thanksgiving season.

Anything less and the season is over. But lets focus on the Raiders. We should win another ugly game vs. them, but I can't stand mobile qbs against us. However, I actually am feeling a little better playing mobile qb's, because of #52

the way of the way. Only loss being Seattle.

Just don't beat themselves and they will be in all the games

ups and downs of BBI.

typo.

All 3 are winnable games, even with the current state of this team. With no wiggle room, every winnable game MUST be won to have a season. Remarkably, if the Giants do win all 3, there is a decent chance at 5-6 they could end up with a stake in the division lead.

It is really not out of the realm of possibility either. I think the stat they mentioned last week is that every season since 2005, when Eli became the full time starter, the Giants have had at least one winning streak of at least 4 games. So, this team going on a roll is a big possibility.

One at a time. Don't look ahead.

It might have more to do with the downs of the division. Even at 0-6 the rest of the division was bad enough for the Giants to still not be that far behind in the rear view mirror. Now, at 2-6, given their remaining games, they have a real shot to make a run. They simply have to focus each week, play one at a time, and protect the football.

Two weeks ago, the debate was if the Giants would win a game this year.

That we get discount double checked by about 21 pts in three weeks.

We are still not a good time, ugly wins vs two of the worst teams in the league doesn't change that.

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of the schedule and discussing how many it will take to get a bye. A bit of a change of pace this year.

especially at home.

come the Eagles only become one of the worst teams in the league after the Giants beat them?

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ups and downs of BBI.

Amazing what a few wins will do for everyone.

Are we still trying to tank the season so the Giants can get Clowney?

and downs indeed. We've played better, but we beat two absolutely terrible teams with dreadful QB situations. And we didn't score a TD against one of those teams. We've also given up four ST TDs.

The Raiders are no joke. Pryor is a dynamic runner who could easily give us fits.

GB. Hmmm. They have this guy Rodgers.

Dallas. Romo and Dez Bryant could be enough.

I'd love to be wrong, but I still see us as a four or five win team.

...beat the Raiders. Take it from there.

In the league all year. The rest of the media just caught on.

because the Giants were the worst 2 weeks ago, now the Eagles have taken over that spot.

It's crazy. If we somehow win the next 2, with Dallas playing at New Orleans in 2 weeks, that Dallas game on 11/24 will likely be for first place.

LOL

They have beaten the Giants (Barely thanks to Eli & co), the hapless Rams, the pathetic Eagles, and the punchless Redskins.

They just aren't a good team.

They might even lose to Christian Ponder & the Vikes. Definite loss to the Saints in 2 weeks.

@Saints, @Giants, Raiders, @Bears, Packers are all losable games.

Then finish the season @ Redskins and vs Eagles. Washington might beat them.

but the Cowboy offense is the best unit in the division on either side of the ball. Probably the only elite unit in the division anywhere on either side of the ball. On top of that they begin the 2nd half with a division lead and an awesome tiebreaker situation at 3-0 in the division. They're going to get Demarcus Ware back soon enough too.

I'd make them a pretty heavy favorite right now. Probably 75% odds (which i would imagine is pretty much in line historically for a team with a 2 game lead at the midway point. Throw the other three teams in a hat and split the final 25% between them

but really 1.5 with a head to head win (and a road one at that)

team currently?

The Giants defense isn't going to shut them out and the Giants offense's just-don't-turn-the-ball-over act isn't going to come close to cutting it against them.

Frankly, with how feisty the Raiders have been playing, too many people are writing that one off as a gimme win.

With the Raiders and should take care of business. Ordinarily, the Raiders game would be the ultimate trap game that we would lose, but that cant be the case this year given that we basically need to win out.

The Raiders are a running team through and through. Between Prior and McFadden, they are going to pound the rock. Our defense has been very stout against the run all year, so this plays right into our strength.

I am more worried about the Raiders defense and our offense though. Still, we have the better team and NEED the win in the worst way. Call me crazy, but I think we win in blowout fashion. Win next Sunday and then we can start talking about GB.

Either way, we will have to go 6-2, win the rest of our divisional games, and hope the cowboys lose one of their last 2 games (Skins and Eagles). But If those things happen, we can go 8-8 and win the division.

Of course it would help a TON if we win the next 3 and cowboys lose to the Saints. Then all of a sudden we're in the driver's seat.

and then "close" games that were blown open by bad turnovers or special teams plays turn into "should've won" games and all the sudden the entire season appears a lot different.

Think about it, with all of our sloppy play (and there was A LOT of it) we were very much in every game outside of that beatdown in Carolina.

Honestly, I see no reason why the Giants can't rally and win these next 3 games particulary when you consider how well we have played GB over the last few years.

teams in the division.

We're still in last place. The Eagles and Redskins can get first place as well.

offense.

we couldnt get the ball in on the eagles and they were just begging us to do it.

we need to tweak the offense and fire on all cyclinders... we have the talent and just need to excute better. The o line need to do their job.

one game at a time

aren't winning anything. They both look like 4-12 teams at best.

well you could say the same for the Giants too.

People know that the Eagles have a terrible defense, right? And yet the Giants couldn't get into the end zone once against them.

so how are we supposed to win anything?

We've had 10 quarters of shutout football and we're still down 141-223 on point differential.


You really need to pay attention to how bad that is and what it means.

their defense has been keeping them in games and without turning the ball over, the games have been low-scoring contests. If we can somehow turn, what seems like our eternal Redzone woes, around, we might actually have a shot at the division.

The Gmen need to take it one game at a time. They have the right attitude about it and if there was a team that could actually pull it off, it would be this team. I'm not counting them out till they're mathematically eliminated.

As others have said, Oakland is not a gimme game and will be a tough test for the Offense once again, but if they don't turn it over, they will probably win another low-scoring contest. Then we can start looking at GB and only then.

out baby!

Pass the peyote!

Focus only on the Raiders..our team is flawed in all phases of the game....very happy with the 2 game win streak...

There have been considerable improvements no doubt, but lets not forget Giants beat 2 very bad teams.

Despite all the problems Giants have, I think they should still be able to beat the Raiders. Looking forward to hopefully enjoy another win.

If the Saints were in the NFC East the season would be over. At least it won't be over once the Raider game kicks off.

I have no grand thoughts of this team miraculously turning into a real contender. There are still plenty of issues to fix. But it was looking like we'd have 2 months of essentially meaningless football ahead of us, something we hadn't seen since probably 2003. And that's no fun.

At least these two wins (and the ineptitude of the division) have kept us alive and given us some meaningful games to look forward to.

The defense has played well for two weeks against teams without QBs. Let's take it one at a time.

The offense had a good game. There was a clear emphasis on ball control, no turnovers, etc. They didn't get the TDs, but the one time they needed to get a third down conversion, they got it (the last pass to Myers).

I thought the offense played well. The game had a particular context, and the offense met the needs of that context.

I want what you're drinking.

Anyday with a Giant win AND losses by the Eagles, Cowboys and Redskins is a great day.

Can 7 wins actually take the division?

I completely agree.

You like TD's instead of FG's but I thought the offense generally played well yesterday - particularly in the context of the overall game.

The question is: If we were in a shootout, could we have kept up?

Maybe with some better running game our red zone offense will improve? Dallas only scored 17 pts vs Philly, maybe Philly def is improving too?

Agreed. But, the combination of Eli/Coughlin still at the helm and the rest of the division sucking, I wasn't completely sold that the season was over, even at 0-6. Now, that doesn't mean I was confident, but I hadn't given up hope. I think given the schedule, the improved play, some new additions getting more time to learn our systems and players, etc. a run isn't out of the question. 8-8 might even be enough to win the division.

Granted as bad as the first half went, the Giants have to play as well in the second half. They can't afford to go less than 6-2, with 7-1 being more optimal. If, by some miracle, they run the table, they win the division hands down. 7-1 likely wins it if the only loss is to Seattle. 6-2 has an outside shot depending on who that 2nd loss is to.

because playing good defense against the likes of Josh Freeman, Mike Vick, and Matt Barkley does not mean the pass defense has been fixed. Especially when it wasn't too long ago that Alex Smith, Jake Cutler, Cam Newton, and Tony Romo were carving them like a Christmas ham.

Can split the Packers/Raiders, but preferably beat the Packers, of course.

To make the playoffs, the Giants cannot lose another NFC East game, in my view. Then, at 8-8, they have a shot.

you have to get pressure or he will destroy you

the passes to jordy nelson last night were off the charts

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The only times they didn't score was the kneel down at the end of the game.

Rodgers didn't even have Randall Cobb, James Jones and Jermichael Finley to throw to.

Have to win a shootout and not have any special teams gaffes. Somehow hope to get the ball last and have Eli come thru.

and our D wasn't as effective as this one is..

As to the O, we can explode at any time. The Receivers can easily and finally get on the same page along with Hillis putting pressure on the defenses that we weren't able to put on before..He'll also shorten down and distance allowing receivers several options..

17 against the eagles. NYG is playing small ball on offense until the OL shows something.

are Packers, Seahawks and Lions. We have to sweep our division games as well.

Even if we win the next 3 games, then lose the following week to the Skins, the season is almost surely over. Beat either GB or Raiders, then just make sure we take care of the cowboys and redskins, THEN we have a real shot.