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Next 3 games: Raiders, Packers and Cowboys

spike : 10/28/2013 2:22 pm
All at home.

Raiders could b e tougher but they are beatable. T Pryor is their QB, so come on.

Packers have come down a bit this season and they are beatable on our turf.

and then we got the Cowboys. I'm confident we will beat them .


3 tough games but all are winnable, as long as we win the turnover battle.
Have to win all three  
Go Terps : 10/28/2013 2:25 pm : link
At least from that perspective the mission is clear. Win all three and we can have a post-Thanksgiving season.
^ exactly  
NYG007 : 10/28/2013 2:27 pm : link
Anything less and the season is over. But lets focus on the Raiders. We should win another ugly game vs. them, but I can't stand mobile qbs against us. However, I actually am feeling a little better playing mobile qb's, because of #52
The Giants are going 7-1  
spike : 10/28/2013 2:28 pm : link
the way of the way. Only loss being Seattle.

Just don't beat themselves and they will be in all the games

the  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/28/2013 2:28 pm : link
ups and downs of BBI.
the *REST* of the way  
spike : 10/28/2013 2:29 pm : link
typo.
Yup  
Matt M. : 10/28/2013 2:29 pm : link
All 3 are winnable games, even with the current state of this team. With no wiggle room, every winnable game MUST be won to have a season. Remarkably, if the Giants do win all 3, there is a decent chance at 5-6 they could end up with a stake in the division lead.

It is really not out of the realm of possibility either. I think the stat they mentioned last week is that every season since 2005, when Eli became the full time starter, the Giants have had at least one winning streak of at least 4 games. So, this team going on a roll is a big possibility.
Baby steps.  
MOOPS : 10/28/2013 2:30 pm : link
One at a time. Don't look ahead.
Eric  
Matt M. : 10/28/2013 2:31 pm : link
It might have more to do with the downs of the division. Even at 0-6 the rest of the division was bad enough for the Giants to still not be that far behind in the rear view mirror. Now, at 2-6, given their remaining games, they have a real shot to make a run. They simply have to focus each week, play one at a time, and protect the football.
Matt  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/28/2013 2:32 pm : link
Two weeks ago, the debate was if the Giants would win a game this year.
I have a bad feeling  
Since1976 : 10/28/2013 2:32 pm : link
That we get discount double checked by about 21 pts in three weeks.

We are still not a good time, ugly wins vs two of the worst teams in the league doesn't change that.
Time =  
Since1976 : 10/28/2013 2:33 pm : link
Team
Usually at this time we're counting wins on the second half  
Miami_JintsFan : 10/28/2013 2:33 pm : link
of the schedule and discussing how many it will take to get a bye. A bit of a change of pace this year.
if we stay healthy, we have a shot against anyone  
spike : 10/28/2013 2:34 pm : link
especially at home.

how  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 10/28/2013 2:34 pm : link
come the Eagles only become one of the worst teams in the league after the Giants beat them?
RE: the  
BigBlueinChicago : 10/28/2013 2:35 pm : link
In comment 11306511 Eric from BBI said:
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ups and downs of BBI.


Amazing what a few wins will do for everyone.

Are we still trying to tank the season so the Giants can get Clowney?

Ups  
AcidTest : 10/28/2013 2:35 pm : link
and downs indeed. We've played better, but we beat two absolutely terrible teams with dreadful QB situations. And we didn't score a TD against one of those teams. We've also given up four ST TDs.

The Raiders are no joke. Pryor is a dynamic runner who could easily give us fits.

GB. Hmmm. They have this guy Rodgers.

Dallas. Romo and Dez Bryant could be enough.

I'd love to be wrong, but I still see us as a four or five win team.
One game...  
kinard : 10/28/2013 2:35 pm : link
...beat the Raiders. Take it from there.
I've considered the Eagles to be one of the worst teams  
Since1976 : 10/28/2013 2:35 pm : link
In the league all year. The rest of the media just caught on.
Eric  
spike : 10/28/2013 2:37 pm : link
because the Giants were the worst 2 weeks ago, now the Eagles have taken over that spot.
.  
Danny Kanell : 10/28/2013 2:43 pm : link
It's crazy. If we somehow win the next 2, with Dallas playing at New Orleans in 2 weeks, that Dallas game on 11/24 will likely be for first place.

LOL
The Cowboys are 4-4  
spike : 10/28/2013 2:49 pm : link
They have beaten the Giants (Barely thanks to Eli & co), the hapless Rams, the pathetic Eagles, and the punchless Redskins.

They just aren't a good team.

They might even lose to Christian Ponder & the Vikes. Definite loss to the Saints in 2 weeks.
the Boys can easily go on a 5 game losing streak  
spike : 10/28/2013 2:51 pm : link
@Saints, @Giants, Raiders, @Bears, Packers are all losable games.

Then finish the season @ Redskins and vs Eagles. Washington might beat them.
Every team in the division is flawed  
MarshallOnMontana : 10/28/2013 2:55 pm : link
but the Cowboy offense is the best unit in the division on either side of the ball. Probably the only elite unit in the division anywhere on either side of the ball. On top of that they begin the 2nd half with a division lead and an awesome tiebreaker situation at 3-0 in the division. They're going to get Demarcus Ware back soon enough too.

I'd make them a pretty heavy favorite right now. Probably 75% odds (which i would imagine is pretty much in line historically for a team with a 2 game lead at the midway point. Throw the other three teams in a hat and split the final 25% between them

Only a one game lead over Philly right now  
MarshallOnMontana : 10/28/2013 2:56 pm : link
but really 1.5 with a head to head win (and a road one at that)
How exactly is the Packers game a winnable game, with the state of the  
Riggies : 10/28/2013 3:01 pm : link
team currently?

The Giants defense isn't going to shut them out and the Giants offense's just-don't-turn-the-ball-over act isn't going to come close to cutting it against them.

Frankly, with how feisty the Raiders have been playing, too many people are writing that one off as a gimme win.
I think we match up VERY well  
gmen9892 : 10/28/2013 3:14 pm : link
With the Raiders and should take care of business. Ordinarily, the Raiders game would be the ultimate trap game that we would lose, but that cant be the case this year given that we basically need to win out.

The Raiders are a running team through and through. Between Prior and McFadden, they are going to pound the rock. Our defense has been very stout against the run all year, so this plays right into our strength.

I am more worried about the Raiders defense and our offense though. Still, we have the better team and NEED the win in the worst way. Call me crazy, but I think we win in blowout fashion. Win next Sunday and then we can start talking about GB.
Losing to the Packers does not end our season  
Knee of Theismann : 10/28/2013 3:16 pm : link
Either way, we will have to go 6-2, win the rest of our divisional games, and hope the cowboys lose one of their last 2 games (Skins and Eagles). But If those things happen, we can go 8-8 and win the division.

Of course it would help a TON if we win the next 3 and cowboys lose to the Saints. Then all of a sudden we're in the driver's seat.
A couple of wins  
BayRidgeBlue : 10/28/2013 3:20 pm : link
and then "close" games that were blown open by bad turnovers or special teams plays turn into "should've won" games and all the sudden the entire season appears a lot different.

Think about it, with all of our sloppy play (and there was A LOT of it) we were very much in every game outside of that beatdown in Carolina.

Honestly, I see no reason why the Giants can't rally and win these next 3 games particulary when you consider how well we have played GB over the last few years.
You guys are talking like the Giants and Cowboys are the only two  
Curtis in VA : 10/28/2013 3:21 pm : link
teams in the division.

We're still in last place. The Eagles and Redskins can get first place as well.
lets be realistic here. we arent beating anyone with that red zone  
GMAN4LIFE : 10/28/2013 3:22 pm : link
offense.

we couldnt get the ball in on the eagles and they were just begging us to do it.

we need to tweak the offense and fire on all cyclinders... we have the talent and just need to excute better. The o line need to do their job.

one game at a time
The Eagles and Redskins  
spike : 10/28/2013 3:32 pm : link
aren't winning anything. They both look like 4-12 teams at best.
Yeah,  
Curtis in VA : 10/28/2013 3:37 pm : link
well you could say the same for the Giants too.
People predicting a win over the Packers....that's just precious  
Greg from LI : 10/28/2013 3:42 pm : link
People know that the Eagles have a terrible defense, right? And yet the Giants couldn't get into the end zone once against them.
We can't score  
Ten Ton Hammer : 10/28/2013 3:42 pm : link
so how are we supposed to win anything?

We've had 10 quarters of shutout football and we're still down 141-223 on point differential.


You really need to pay attention to how bad that is and what it means.

The Giants are anything but world-beaters at this point......  
Simms11 : 10/28/2013 3:44 pm : link
their defense has been keeping them in games and without turning the ball over, the games have been low-scoring contests. If we can somehow turn, what seems like our eternal Redzone woes, around, we might actually have a shot at the division.

The Gmen need to take it one game at a time. They have the right attitude about it and if there was a team that could actually pull it off, it would be this team. I'm not counting them out till they're mathematically eliminated.

As others have said, Oakland is not a gimme game and will be a tough test for the Offense once again, but if they don't turn it over, they will probably win another low-scoring contest. Then we can start looking at GB and only then.
Giants going to win  
SanFranGiantsFan : 10/28/2013 3:50 pm : link
out baby!

Pass the peyote!

One game at a time  
Rick in Dallas : 10/28/2013 3:57 pm : link
Focus only on the Raiders..our team is flawed in all phases of the game....very happy with the 2 game win streak...
If there was a time for fans to take it 1 game at a time, its now  
GloryDayz : 10/28/2013 3:57 pm : link
There have been considerable improvements no doubt, but lets not forget Giants beat 2 very bad teams.

Despite all the problems Giants have, I think they should still be able to beat the Raiders. Looking forward to hopefully enjoy another win.
I'm just thankful the next couple games matter  
Go Terps : 10/28/2013 4:03 pm : link
If the Saints were in the NFC East the season would be over. At least it won't be over once the Raider game kicks off.
My thoughts are similar, Terps  
Kyle in NY : 10/28/2013 4:13 pm : link
I have no grand thoughts of this team miraculously turning into a real contender. There are still plenty of issues to fix. But it was looking like we'd have 2 months of essentially meaningless football ahead of us, something we hadn't seen since probably 2003. And that's no fun.

At least these two wins (and the ineptitude of the division) have kept us alive and given us some meaningful games to look forward to.
Remember, we didn't score a TD yesterday.  
RDJR : 10/28/2013 4:13 pm : link
The defense has played well for two weeks against teams without QBs. Let's take it one at a time.
The lack of TDs yesterday doesn't really tell the story  
Go Terps : 10/28/2013 4:19 pm : link
The offense had a good game. There was a clear emphasis on ball control, no turnovers, etc. They didn't get the TDs, but the one time they needed to get a third down conversion, they got it (the last pass to Myers).

I thought the offense played well. The game had a particular context, and the offense met the needs of that context.
Terps  
RDJR : 10/28/2013 4:21 pm : link
I want what you're drinking.
Anyday with a Giant win is a good day  
Jimmy Googs : 10/28/2013 4:22 pm : link
Anyday with a Giant win AND losses by the Eagles, Cowboys and Redskins is a great day.

-  
rdt288 : 10/28/2013 4:29 pm : link
Can 7 wins actually take the division?
Terps  
LG in NYC : 10/28/2013 4:33 pm : link
I completely agree.

You like TD's instead of FG's but I thought the offense generally played well yesterday - particularly in the context of the overall game.

The question is: If we were in a shootout, could we have kept up?
GMEN  
nfjints : 10/28/2013 4:35 pm : link
Maybe with some better running game our red zone offense will improve? Dallas only scored 17 pts vs Philly, maybe Philly def is improving too?
Eric  
Matt M. : 10/28/2013 4:38 pm : link
Agreed. But, the combination of Eli/Coughlin still at the helm and the rest of the division sucking, I wasn't completely sold that the season was over, even at 0-6. Now, that doesn't mean I was confident, but I hadn't given up hope. I think given the schedule, the improved play, some new additions getting more time to learn our systems and players, etc. a run isn't out of the question. 8-8 might even be enough to win the division.

Granted as bad as the first half went, the Giants have to play as well in the second half. They can't afford to go less than 6-2, with 7-1 being more optimal. If, by some miracle, they run the table, they win the division hands down. 7-1 likely wins it if the only loss is to Seattle. 6-2 has an outside shot depending on who that 2nd loss is to.
I'm curious to see what they'll do against Rogers  
mikeinbloomfield : 10/28/2013 4:39 pm : link
because playing good defense against the likes of Josh Freeman, Mike Vick, and Matt Barkley does not mean the pass defense has been fixed. Especially when it wasn't too long ago that Alex Smith, Jake Cutler, Cam Newton, and Tony Romo were carving them like a Christmas ham.
Must beat the Cowboys  
ij_reilly : 10/28/2013 5:17 pm : link
Can split the Packers/Raiders, but preferably beat the Packers, of course.

To make the playoffs, the Giants cannot lose another NFC East game, in my view. Then, at 8-8, they have a shot.

how to beat rodgers  
giantfanboy : 10/28/2013 5:33 pm : link
you have to get pressure or he will destroy you

the passes to jordy nelson last night were off the charts
3 games that can change a season, bring em on.  
wgenesis123 : 10/28/2013 5:36 pm : link
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Packers had the ball 9 times yesterday and scored on 8 of them!  
Jimmy Googs : 10/28/2013 5:50 pm : link
The only times they didn't score was the kneel down at the end of the game.

Rodgers didn't even have Randall Cobb, James Jones and Jermichael Finley to throw to.

Have to win a shootout and not have any special teams gaffes. Somehow hope to get the ball last and have Eli come thru.
We did quite well against Rodgers last year  
Big Blue '56 : 10/28/2013 5:51 pm : link
and our D wasn't as effective as this one is..

As to the O, we can explode at any time. The Receivers can easily and finally get on the same page along with Hillis putting pressure on the defenses that we weren't able to put on before..He'll also shorten down and distance allowing receivers several options..
Dallas only scored  
bob in tx : 10/28/2013 6:01 pm : link
17 against the eagles. NYG is playing small ball on offense until the OL shows something.
The tough ones  
TMS : 10/28/2013 6:03 pm : link
are Packers, Seahawks and Lions. We have to sweep our division games as well.
No one seems to realize  
Knee of Theismann : 10/29/2013 2:21 pm : link
Even if we win the next 3 games, then lose the following week to the Skins, the season is almost surely over. Beat either GB or Raiders, then just make sure we take care of the cowboys and redskins, THEN we have a real shot.
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