Reese sounded very nervous- every few words followed by you know,you know, you know.
Reese blamed the bad start on the high number of turnovers. Mentioned that the first pass of the season was intercepted.
Mike asked Reese if he made any miscalculations. Reese said no.Said there were injuries but they believe the next guy should stand up.
Said injuries are part of thr game and cannot be used as an excuse. Then proceeded to say that they lost 3/5 of the offensive line-Diehl, Baas and Snee- to injury.
Said Pugh has played well and that Beatty has played fairly well and that he is still a young guy. Cordle has also done ok.
Mike asked if Pugh could play LT. Reese said that he could play any line position. For the time being, Pugh will stay at RT.
Reese said Victor Cruz has been the best player thus far.
Defense has played well allowing very few points over the last ten quarters.
Reese glossed over reasons for lack of a pass rush, mentioned JPP's injury.
Reese mentioned that Eli has hit some rough spots in the past and has come back. Said Eli is a Pro's Pro.
Age is not a concern with Coughlin. Very energetic.
Most of what else Reese said was boilerplate stuff. Really not an informative session by any means, but again, that's vintage Jerry.
Nobody from the Giants ever says anything in interviews.
Diehl, Baas, and Snee came into the season hurt...he should have anticipated some of this.
don't read into his "nerves". He is always like that. He is not a smooth speaker when it comes to public appearances.
he normally repeats himself quite a bit.
i wouldn't use that word at all. He sounds like he always does and there is only so much he's going to give to the media.
Fact is that they have done a poor job at restocking the lines, and tried to skimp by hoping their mid-round picks in that department (Brewer and Mosley) would step up, but they haven't. I'll go one step further and say Beatty isn't that good, and that they over rated him in giving him the contract that he got. Pat Kirwan wasn't high on Beatty before or after the Giants signed him to his new deal.
|Mike asked Reese if he made any miscalculations. Reese said no.
the guy is giving particularly lame answers this year
yesterday someone asked him about the linebackers and his answer was "we have holes all over the place".
Yes, Jerry. And you were asked specifically about the linebackers. So....? For the record i'm not expecting anything out of these interviews but his answers were insulting. imo.
Not mistaken, didn't Coughlin use to rotate the oline ? I think in 08, when our running game was damn good, he was using rotations. I say that, because Reese expected the young lineman to be ready, but they don't get any damn playing time. If we could go back to rotating some of these guys, maybe they can gain a little more experience.
When your team puts a SB countdown in the locker room those are huge expectations.
It was made clear that playoffs once out of 4 years is not enough, even with the title. In fact, the playoff runs that this franchise has been able to make are even more reason why they should be doing a better job of getting there.
I hate to say it but Reese and Coughlin have both sounded alittle bit stubborn and almost like it's less than panic time at 2-6. Mike even had to correct reese by saying yea, you basically need to win all your remaining games or start praying.
I wouldn't say "lines"...they have spent quite a bit of resources in terms of draft picks and free agents on the defensive line. The production may not be there, but the effort to improve it was.
counted on an aging line to stay healthy and guys on 1 year "show me" deals to be productive. Fully expect this team to look MUCH different next year when they will actually have salary cap space with which to make moves.
Gotta move on to bigger and better things,like scouting that freak athlete who plays tight end at the University Of North Dakota.
Goes by the name of He Who Crashes Through Gatorade Table.
Our cap situation. I don't think they had a choice, but to gamble with a couple positions. One of those positions, being the oline.
doubt Reese sounded nervous...why would he be nervous?...smh
I do agree that Beatty was overrated by the Giants.
I also don't believe they have to win out to have a chance either. I honestly believe the Giants can and will still win this division. They didn't properly anticipate somethings coming into the season and the injuries just made things worse, but I also feel like things are just now starting to settle down.
Beason acquisition was huge.
Simplfied there scheme.
Got Will Hill back.
T2 is probably playing with more confidence then he was earlier.
Oline has finally settled down enough where the offense can function and cut down the TO's.
Backfield is finally settling down too with Peyton and Jacobs coming in. Now with Brown coming back they shoould get even better and more explosive plays out of the backfield.
If the pass rush can pick it up and JPP comes on I really believe this team has a legit shot.
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Eric from BBI said:
| Diehl, Baas, and Snee came into the season hurt...he should have anticipated some of this.
I wonder - how much of that is Reese and how much of it is the coaching staff and the medical staff?
In Diehl's case, at his age I could see faulting Reese. Snee is a pretty complicated case, what with his being TC's son in law. Did his medical evaluation list him as a risk? Did that relationship to TC complicate severing ties with him in any way?
Baas is on Reese, IMO. Couldn't cut him because of the cap situation, but should have had a more credible backup just in case.
And then there's Brewer and Mosley. Do these guys just outright stink? In limited duty Brewer didn't look that bad, why hasn't he been able to get on the field?
Mathematically the hole is great, but next game is like a playoff game...as is the next...and the next
Plenty of time to debate once the season is over via calendar or elimination.
Until then...lets beat the raiders and see what unfolds.
and neither Coughlin nor Reese would ever say anything that might easily be interpreted as publicly embarassing a player or a vote of no confidence in the team. Howver, if you read his press conference transcript from yesterday closely enough I think one can see him acknowledging many of the criticisms that have been levied against him and the organization this year.
Jerry trying to claim surprise that Snee and Baas are injured yet again is laughable.
way over his head. Has been from the start. Don't understand the reverence he's given here.
as if he doesn't look and speak as if he's beaten himself up enough about this year already? He's shell-shocked or something similar right now from the look of him.
I saw bits of his press conference, he sure as hell didn't look or sound any different to me. No different from what he looked like when the team was cranking out wins.
...instead of a luxury pick at QB(who we pray never has to take a snap for the next five years) makes sense to JR now /ugh.
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Reach These said:
| way over his head. Has been from the start. Don't understand the reverence he's given here.
How would you know about the reverence he gets here? You registered this month.
the problems with this team were/are just about the turnovers, he's delusional and, frankly, it's not even good PR/public posturing.
press conference the last 3-4 years posted up on video at giants.com.
Frankly he looks very different to me, even though he never says anything of consequence, ever. For lack of a better phrase, the "twinkle in his eyes' is pretty darn dim this last presser, compared to any other I've watched.
How would you feel if you put a Super Bowl Countdown clock in the locker room and the team started 0-6? Kind of makes you look like an idiot.
He's having a terrible year yet he's facing the storm with dignity and optimism. He hasn't panicked yet he's faced tons of criticism for the Beason trade and how's that working? He brought in Peyton Hillis and that's working out.
It's the way people handle adversity that tells us how great they are. Reese was making smart moves when the team was 0-6. That tells me that he's a pro.
For me, the way he's handling this rough start tells me how great of a GM he is. He gambled on old starters and it went against him but he's making he best of a lousy situation.
He isn't passing the buck to TC, either.
You've got a good read on things. Very much enjoyed your last effort.
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Eric from BBI said:
| I wouldn't say "lines"...they have spent quite a bit of resources in terms of draft picks and free agents on the defensive line. The production may not be there, but the effort to improve it was.
Typo regarding lines. My mistake. I only meant to type line (meaning the O-Line). An "s" certainly makes a difference. They've been good at taking care of the D-Line. In fact, they've paid too much attention to it, if possible. The O-Line and Linebackers are shitty.
He's also not taking the buck. He doesn't seem to think there is a buck, lol.
I enjoy writing those things.
|let's take him outside and kick the shit out of him.
mort christenson : 5:04 pm : link : reply
You rolled the friggin dice and hoped/prayed you could squeeze out one more season from a number of broken down veterans in the hopes of making it to the big game in your backyard. To make matters worse you put a damn SB countdown clock in the locker room --- just stupid and something I expect from the other tenants at MetLife. Unfortunately you calculated wrong and it totally blew up on you. I truly wonder what would have really played out if this years SB was anywhere else other than MetLife.
just jumps out at you on tape.
How do you anticipate the injuries, even with the guys recovering from the offseason. There are only 53 roster spots - it is hard to make contingency plans when roster size is limited
by having backups on the 53 who can actually play if you need them without stinking the place up
when you've got starters who can't play
Reese sounds like that all the time. It's the way he speaks. The way he sounded today (I listened to most of the interview) was how he sounded after both Super Bowl wins. Unless I missed it, I found it interesting that Francesa didn't ask Reese if he had change his mind regarding the value of linebackers, given that the defense did a 180 when Beason became the starting middle linebacker.
Counting on Diehl, Snee, and Baas with their physical track records and level of play?
"How would you know about the reverence he gets here? You registered this month."
That maybe so but I've been here from the beginning under many handles. Try to figure it out. Think outside the box if you can.
There are only so many players you can acquire per year with the salary cap and competition from other teams for players limiting what you can do. You have to settle in some instances and try to draft and develop high ceiling guys.
One of the giants strengths is utilizing the level of talent available in street FA's where you can find a Donnell, Pascoe and Ballard which allows you to take a chance on a project like Adrien Robinson. Most 4-7 rounders will be at or below the available FA level so I have no problem with that philosophy.
Could they have better TE's than that? Sure they could but you probably would have had to not draft JPP or Nicks to get one. You can't always just select the guys like Barden and Austin who didn't work out and say if we didn't draft this guy we could of had a good TE. And there are draft picks on every team that don't amount to anything. Not just the Giants.
Also, I think their last draft class will turn out to be pretty good.
that have it out for Reese.
Well he's still my guy. Phil made an excellent point. Reese isn't perfect, nobody is. He's had some ups and downs, but mostly up as 2 SBs and zero losing records during his time reflects. He is standing strong in the face of adversity and hasn't thrown anyone under the bus. His answer's will always be PC, that's how they always are and always will be. The Giants know how to handle the media. They are obligated to meet the media, but ideally would not want to speak with them and they have mastered the art of answering questions without saying much to create a story. I have confidence in Reese and the organization to right this ship, they have earned it based on there track records.
I'm not sure what moves he was supposed to make, given the dead money he's already got from key contributors to the last championship and in Bradshaw's case the last two, and the marginal free agent market with so many vets taking 1 year deals. Somebody throw out some names and some 2014 cap numbers for guys that could have replaced Snee, Diehl, Boothe, Webster, Tuck, or in other words the guys everyone on BBI is bitching about in terms of return on 2014 cap commitment. I'm the first one to admit I haven't looked over the FA signings at those positions, either, but then again I'm not the one calling him incompetant.
He's caught with an aging championship roster in the most challenging cap environment ever, and both he and the coaching staff have to share some blame in not creating as many 'next man's" to bring "up".
I want to see how he steers the ship out of this mess before I pass final judgement on how good or bad JR is.
if he isnt going to say anything.
Reese had an aging team, some disappointing draft picks and limited cap space. He made some gambles, tried to bring in 1 year fixes and prayed for health. It did not work out.
Plenty of blame can be placed on Reese and the coaches and a whole lot of bad luck. This team is in a rebuilding mode--whether admitted publicly or not. A two game win streak against two bad teams means little.
Hopefully, the fact that Giants can and have played better lately does not delude management into thinking that this year was all just an accident. The OL needs lots of help. RBs are a mess with a recent No. 1 possibly through. The DL is in transition and the LBs are solid at one position--that being an oft-injured mid-season vet. The DBs are playing reasonably well but more help is needed as Webster and Ross are through and TT represents a major risk with 3 ACL surgeries already in his medical file. Lastly, the WR position could quickly become a need if our former No. 1 leaves.
Time for a transition. In the NFL it is possible to bouince back quickly, but that requires acknowledging the problem and fixing it, not hoping for a resurrection of players who are past their prime or never achieved their promise.
the WR position is one of the easiest ones on the field to replace. I am less concerned with that than other GIANT holes that we have. If our O-line was near the top in the league, we could run the ball more effectively, own the time of possession and play action would work better too. Then, the need for TOP WRs is lessened. The Patriots are 6-2 right now (should be 7-1) and who were there receivers this year? Gronk was out. Amendola has basically been hurt the whole time. They had Edelmnan and a rookie. Plus Brady has also not played that well. They have a very good O-line and have been able to run the ball.
He has let the foundation Ernie built that he soldified go to his head and now believe his own bullshit.
He left us completely high and dry at running back, tight end, and linebacker.
It's like he wanted to make a statement and start a trend of not needing quality linebackers and being able to get an atta boy for finding low cost running backs (Brown and Wilson).
He messed up big time with the running backs.
He wasted a pick on Cox when we had three inexperienced backs.
Instead he should have Hillis or a similar vet in the offseason like he did with Droughns in 2007 to complement a completely inexperienced backfield.
He had to eat crow on this twice (Jacobs and Hillis) AND at linebacker with Beason.
If he wasn't so full of himself the Giants could have started 2-4 or better and had a chance at the division. Reese and his arrogance cost us.