I was reading an excerpt about a new book on the 85 Bears and Landeta was claiming it was the wind that took the ball from him that day. The Bears laughed at that notion and basically said when he lifted up his head because they were coming at him, he just whiffed. I always thought it was the wind. The more I look at the Youtube clip, though, I think the Bears might be right it does not look like the wind. However, I don't see any Bears in the picture either. What do you folks think?
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As a side note, it wasn't the NFC Championship game as the video says, but was a divisional round game. The NFL film of the Giants 1985 season makes the same mistake.
I always thought the '85 team was even better than the '86 team but I don't think stats support me on that.
As far as the rest of the game, we've had this discussion before. The Bears D was great, ours was awfully good. The game was set up as a field position contest until that punt. Bears scouting also figured out that the back shoulder catches would work against what was really good coverage by our corners. We didn't adjust at all. That was it.
I can't find the quote, but as I recall, Harry Carson said something like, "A punter won the game for us."
I was surprised to see Landeta miss but there was nothing before or after that made me think it was the rush. Just assumed it was one of those things that happen even to the best.
Bears were bullies all year and no one was going to stop them. Marino and Fins took it to them one week but that was b/c Marino was a stud and had a really quick release and the Bear pass rush didn't get to him. Too bad Fins lost to Patriots in AFC Championship b/c rematch of Bears/Fins would have been much better game.
The wind was really bad, no one could throw the ball. Which against he Bears D that year meant death. We didn't move the ball all day.
much, much more likely that it was just a bad drop. after all, if it was so cold, maybe he didn't have such a great grip on the ball before he dropped it?
Reminds me of the hockey play where the forward has an empty net and the puck just hits a mound of ice and pops over his stick.
Fluky bad luck that will forever make the player look like an idiot.
PaulBlakeTSU : 11:10 am : link : reply
how you can watch the video and not think it was the wind based on how the ball moves.
I don't know how anyone can watch the tape and say the ball was taken by the wind. That is not to say that the wind, which gusted up to 25 miles per hour that day, did not take the ball, but it is not apparent by the video. I always thought it was the wind and my memory was that it was the win. However, when Iread the piece in the new book and pulled the video, I was like, "wow, i am not sure it was the wind." Again, I don't think you can say it was not pulled by the wind by the video, but what you cannot say definitively by that video is that the wind pulled the ball away from him.
because fundamentally the Giants had the better all around D, IMO. Although, the Bears ran the 46 through everyone that year, and were scary. I would bet they would say the Giants were their toughest challenge.
The Giants would have beaten the Pats that year. too.