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Even the most realistic among us, must admit

JoefromPa : 11/6/2013 11:21 am
that there is a legitimate chance the Giants are playing a very meaningful game in three weeks against the Cowboys, which is what dreamers like me were still hoping for after an 0-6 start.

Yes I know it is not a given the Giants beat either the Raiders or the Packers, minus Rogers, at home, and if they don't, then I will join "the season is over crowd".................but the chance that they do beat them is legitimate

Add to that the Saints having a letitmate chance to beat the Cowboys in New Orleans, and what you have is a meaningful game coming up Sunday.

I realize there is nothing new here and nothing all the rest of you haven't figured out for yourselves. But often during the first 8 weeks of the season when I shared a "season isn't over yet sentiment" there was ridicule directed my way.

Not saying the Giants are going to get right back into this NFC East race, but they are playing a meaningful game in Nov. and have a chance to do so beyond that, if they win a few games they will be favored to win

All along that's what I have been rooting for, some meaningful games to look forward to.

If they do get on a roll, let's see where it takes them.
You really think you can see three weeks into the future?  
vibe4giants : 11/6/2013 11:22 am : link
Let's see what happens this week.
It is certainly possible  
Reale01 : 11/6/2013 11:31 am : link
That both teams are 5-6 after the home game vs. Dallas,but we have to beat the Raiders first.
The Giants need to beat the Raiders first  
Blue Baller : 11/6/2013 11:33 am : link
fans are allowed to focus on whatever they want

I'm with ya but lets not get greedy.  
Giants Fan in Steelers Land : 11/6/2013 11:34 am : link
The Giants only have one definite meaningful week of football left on the season.

Win and they get one more week.
I don't think the Giants have much chance at the playoffs,  
Mad Mike : 11/6/2013 11:38 am : link
but yes, I think there's a decent chance that we will at least be in a position for that Cowboys game to be meaningful. It's certainly no layup that we'll be in that position, but it's not an unreasonable possibility either.
JoefromPa : 11/6/2013 11:39 am : link
Yep I can see three weeks into the future, anyone that can read can see that was exactly the point I was making
believe it  
marc in easton : 11/6/2013 11:39 am : link
And it will happen!
There is no way,  
Doomster : 11/6/2013 11:39 am : link
this was a winless team.....just a matter of playing a weak team, and having the Giants show up for the often said, a win is a win, no matter how ugly.....would you rather have an ugly win or a beautiful loss? the Eagles couldn't score a td against us, and yet scored 49 against the Raydahs....the Vikings looked inept against us, yet it took a final drive by Dallas to beat them.....

To some that means, our defense is finally shaping others, it's just a game of matchups....

All I know is, this offense is what it is.....with this OL, it's just a matter of time during a drive that it screws up by missing a block, taking too much time to get the play off, or creating some kind of penalty.....that trickles down and affects the play of Eli, the receivers, and the RB's....

To think this defense has become a shutdown defense, that they somehow have seen the Fewell light, is more in part by the lack of competition, rather than competition....

But once again, this defense faces an injured Pryor, or his backup, and the following week it faces a Rodgers-less Packer team....who knows, maybe the defense gets some kind of confidence playing like this.....or maybe the floor falls out when they actually play a team with an offense....

We won't know the answer, until we play Dallas again....and then the season really begins....

JoefromPa : 11/6/2013 11:43 am : link
you are spot on
And to think  
mrvax : 11/6/2013 11:44 am : link
I wanted them to draft top 3. Oh well, 4-12 is nothing to laugh about.
arcarsenal : 11/6/2013 11:46 am : link
Just beat Oakland. One step at a time here.
The one thing we have going for us  
Sneakers O'toole : 11/6/2013 11:46 am : link
is that during our down year this season, the teams in front of us are just as likely to stumble. We could catch them. That's how crazy this season is.
Sneakers O'toole : 11/6/2013 11:47 am : link
maybe "just as likely" is pushing it, but you get the idea
Nope, I aint going there  
Johnny5 : 11/6/2013 11:53 am : link
One game at a time. One game at a time.
Geeman : 11/6/2013 11:58 am : link
I don't understand why you would be ridiculed, but I started a post with regards to those that quit and tapped out and most of those fans that want to call themselves Giant fans and want this team to fight on the field but are themselves quick to quit in the face of adversity and turned there sites on the draft and the season wasn't even halfway over.
I too think this team can and will be in it, regardless of how they played for most of the first half which to be honest was just awful, they have improved greatly over the last 3 games (should've been 3 in a row if not for that bad pass by Eli). The East is so bad we will stay in this thing for most of the second half of the season. As long as the Giants don't lose more than 2 games they will have a shot at stealing this division. The remainding division games will be huge and I love the stance the team is now taking. This is now nothing but an 8 game season starting with Oakland. I like our chances the next 3 weeks.
Yalebowl_Ribs : 11/6/2013 11:59 am : link
will get picked at least three times,oakland wins in a blowout 24 to 23
RE: vibe  
vibe4giants : 11/6/2013 12:03 pm : link
In comment 11322191 JoefromPa said:
Yep I can see three weeks into the future, anyone that can read can see that was exactly the point I was making

Anyone who has paid attention to football the last few years, particularly Giants football, should know making leaps three weeks into the future is foolish. How many 'The Giants are definitely winning this week!' threads did we see here the first six weeks? They were all wrong. So now you're tripling down on those.

That's the point I was making.
Yalebowl, seriously?  
okiegiant : 11/6/2013 12:03 pm : link
I seem to be saying this after everyone of your posts.

im ready  
YorkAveGiant : 11/6/2013 12:08 pm : link
to look at that redskin game and go 'this is for controling our own destiny in the NFC East'.

but im not allowing myself to think it.
just kidding  
Yalebowl_Ribs : 11/6/2013 12:17 pm : link
around , a week without giant football and I blame the giants for not playing , I really don't care if it's a bye week or not.
I'm just  
Pascal4554 : 11/6/2013 12:27 pm : link
hoping we beat Oakland in what looks like a very winnable game. I'm also trying not to get too excited because if we lose to Oakland the season is over.
The history of this oughlin coached team ....  
Manny in CA : 11/6/2013 12:47 pm : link
Is to start
The Giants need to focus on the Raiders  
ZogZerg : 11/6/2013 12:53 pm : link
and not worry about who's playing in games after that.

The Raiders could easily have a bounce back game - Just like Philly did and folks wrote them off a week ago.
The most encouraging thing about the last few weeks  
BlackLight : 11/6/2013 1:20 pm : link
has been the run defense.

If we can keep that up, we'll be competitive in every game.
The history of this Coughlin coached team ....  
Manny in CA : 11/6/2013 1:23 pm : link
Is to start the season on fire, then fade badly (and embarrassingly) at the end, or ....

Stink at the beginning then confound an befuddle the experts by snatching the gold ring from those "who deserve it"

There is no denying the fundamental problem which is the O-line, but recall the this team won their last Superbowl with basically the same problem (I believe they were last in rushing stats). The big difference was that they had two hard running guys (Bradshaw & Jacobs ) who never got the long yardage but got the crucial 3-4 yards, when they had to (mostly on their own).

This year, Bradshaw was shipped out of town (for bad feet) and Brown broke his leg. Wilson could not make his own holes, so we got blown out by Denver, Carolina and KC - for this very reason.

There's five reasons to be optimistic at this point (which weren't around earlier - Beason (who has solidified MLB); Jacobs (who is still and outstanding pass blocker and can hurt linebackers trying to take him down); Hillis who is still young and a darn good football player; Brown (almost as good as Bradshaw was, same hard-nosed style); Hill (probably the best athlete on the team. next to JPP), who is playing very well.

Giants can't look ahead.....  
Simms11 : 11/6/2013 1:34 pm : link
if they want any chance at making a run at the playoffs. Knock em down one game at a time - should be the motto.

Don't turn the ball over, continue solid run D and run the ball for 3-4 yds a carry. If we can do those things, we'll be in every single game no matter who the opponent is.

Beat the Raiders and then let's start talking about Green Bay. No sense in looking ahead, even realistically, because if they lose this week, it's all but over.
Very little chance of playoffs, but...  
silverfox : 11/6/2013 1:50 pm : link
...we will likely play the spoiler role before its all over.

JoefromPa : 11/6/2013 2:28 pm : link
Trying to figure a way for my favorite team to still be in contention three weeks from now, (looking three weeks into the future) is fun.

Maybe be you think it is foolish, but the whole idea of being a fan and getting so much joy out of a win from our team, or being so upset about a loss, which most of us foolish.
I'd like to think that far forward, but with this team you never know  
GloryDayz : 11/6/2013 2:47 pm : link
You cant you really do have to take it one game at a time. This coming from a guy that never believed in the "one game at a time" mantra for fans. Not like "we the fans" will affect the outcome of games.

But in this case, the team in the state it is in, you never know what you're going to get from drive to drive, let alone game to game.
Being a fan is obviously great.  
vibe4giants : 11/6/2013 2:55 pm : link
But your OP purports to know what even 'realistic' fans 'must admit' about three weeks from now.

Because Giants fans have never seen a team play terrible one week then lights out the next?

Because Giants fans have never seen the Giants not just play down to their competition, but beneath it?

Because Giants fans have never seen the Giants embarrassed by a second string, scrub QB?

So with all that knowledge being a fan has left me with, it wouldn't occur to me to assume I know what the Giants will be playing for (or not) in 3 weeks. Much less to tell a whole group of fans what they 'must admit'. It strikes me that the size of the pom poms on display here is greater than the insight. Which is your prerogative.

Just as it's this fan's prerogative to observe the premise here seems foolish.
There's one secret weapon that .....  
Manny in CA : 11/6/2013 3:13 pm : link
Gilbride-Fewell coached teams have, that many others don't have -

They can simplify their schemes more than most other teams can, and reap instant benefits. I don't think either are naturally inclined to do so, but with the addition of Beason on defense, and Hillis on offense, they were forced to
Ok Vibe  
JoefromPa : 11/6/2013 4:27 pm : link
you win, it's foolish............but contemplating it is still fun.

Perhaps you will agree that, my three week scenario is more "probable" than it seemed at 0-6.

In any event, it makes this Sunday's game more fun for me to anticipate, because there is a "realistic" "glimmer" of hope, that there might be meaningful games left in this season. Now that sounds realistic to me.
Something just feels "special" about his whole situation  
Shockwave : 11/6/2013 5:42 pm : link
It's almost like the Giants are destined to start 0-6 and then prove everyone wrong and win the superbowl. If there is any team that would do it, it's this one.

Although after everyone else won in the NFC east this past Sunday that special feeling in the air did dwindle just a tad.

like alcoholics  
mdc1 : 11/6/2013 7:35 pm : link
have 1 day at time, the Giants have 1 game at a time. So far, I don't think they have proven that they can actually dominate a game in any phase of the game. We have beaten nobody's and lost to everyone else.
In my mind they can still lose one game  
steve in ky : 11/6/2013 7:45 pm : link
as long as it is not against a team in their division. Long shot as it may be I am still holding out hope of them winning the division.
Apparently Pryor is fine  
MetsAreBack : 11/6/2013 10:08 pm : link
so this game isnt a gimme by any stretch of the imagination on sunday.
Even if Pryor wasn't fine, the game wouldn't be a gimme.  
Riggies : 11/6/2013 10:14 pm : link
No QB is going to be worse off than Freeman was against the Giants and it took until into the 4th quarter for the game to not be "competitive" thanks to how pathetic the offense is and how mistake-prone STs are.

Odds are the Raiders are going to have a bounceback game of some kind, as they're no where near as horrible as looked on Sunday, and any slight uptick in an opponent's performance signals potential and even likely trouble.
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