Art Stapleton @art_stapleton 5m
Hearing David Wilson to IR could be the move. Nothing official from #NYG, but for Andre Brown return + crowded backfield, makes most
Conor Orr @ConorTOrr 3m
The move will not be made until 4 p.m. today, but David Wilson to IR looks like the case, I'm told. Something could change, but...#nyg
the only reason I thought there was a chance to bring him back would have been for KORs. Right now the Giants have enough backs and every game is cricial to making the offs. So this is probably best. The backfield will not have a homerun threat, but they will trade that for efficiency.
Ball security, great pass blocking and positive yardage plays.
can get surgery to fix, but it really is a shame. I feel bad for the kid, he has so much heart, I hope he can get healthy enough to play again without this being a continuing problem in the future. David's a good kid and I only hope he gets the opportunity to show the world what he can do. Hopefully with some better OL next year he gets ro showcase his skills more.
I think Pattie mentioned this last week being the most likely scenario
He has to go on the IR, but we have plenty of depth at the RB position to deal with this at this point. Its for the best. Just hope this injury doesnt linger and he can come back next year with hopefully a better line to run behind and 100% health.
Sucks.. I was really hoping Dave could come back this year and give us even more of a boost in the backfield. I felt like he and Dre could have been a really solid tandem going forward. Come back strong next year.
RE: I think Pattie mentioned this last week being the most likely scenario
it makes most sense. The current health situation gets to 'heal', whatever that means. Can spent 6 months monitoring his health(and he can study tapes and practice holding onto the ball); if he can continue to play, fine; if not,then it's best for him, and likewise, again in the big picture, with free agency and a May draft the team can adjust as necessary.
Sucks, but it's reality.
With simply a decent OL he can be special.
Add me to Get Well DW folks.
but the move makes sense. Better to play it safe with DW, although I thought if the OL could solidify somewhat he'd make a good addition along with AB and Hillis.
I just hope Brown can stay healthy...
arc - I was thinking about Kuhn when I mentioned Rogers.
Optimus.. I think they do, I'm just not sure there's going to be a spot for him unless someone goes down. If Rogers is healthy, I can't see them preferring Kuhn.
high draft pick. This is getting very old and the reason we are going down the tubes. We better change our draft philosophy and find football players who are sturdy and proven, not just have high measurables..
For Wilson to rest up for next season, let the Giants put him back as a kickoff returner, the job he does do well, not a job we hope he does well at, and address the running back position in the off season, Brown is always hurt, Jacobs is finished and Hillis is a stopgap, we need two running backs this off season, we can count on Cox to play next year, but what he will be ready to give is a huge question mark, maybe a free agent and the draft. i would not be against bringing back Hillis, but no telling what will happen there, he may get an offer we won't match anyway, who knows, but it is time to address this position and the offensive line, we have waited too long with the latter.
high draft pick. This is getting very old and the reason we are going down the tubes. We better change our draft philosophy and find football players who are sturdy and proven, not just have high measurables..
A lot of BBI would have given up on Phil Simms by 1984.
high draft pick. This is getting very old and the reason we are going down the tubes. We better change our draft philosophy and find football players who are sturdy and proven, not just have high measurables..
I'm allowed to attack the post and not the poster, right?
This is an epically fucking stupid post.
Damn Jerry Reese for not having the injury crystal ball like the other 31 teams in the league!
I think he is talking about our recent drafts in general
high draft pick. This is getting very old and the reason we are going down the tubes. We better change our draft philosophy and find football players who are sturdy and proven, not just have high measurables..
A lot of BBI would have given up on Phil Simms by 1984.
1984 is generous. Most of BBI would have given up by 1982.
I have to admit though, when Phil broke his thumb on the 1st series against Philly in 1983 I really thought he was cursed.
Giants will probably just take their chances with Wilson and Brown again next year as they continue reshaping the OL a bit more. RB though will need to be kept on the radar as a need, that's the just the way the NFL works nowadays. RB is a turnstile position anymore and you need to have at minimum two guys capable with a third potentially too and you are probably going to have to call on a vet FA (as we've done half a dozen times the last few yrs).
That said, neither Brown or Wilson have exhibited themselves as long-term considerations or taken a hold of the position. I still have my doubts with Wilson emerging as a serious RB option. Brown, but I do worry about his multiple leg injuries in back to back years.
We will see. My guess is Reese and Co. want to give Wilson a chance to seize the opportunity again for next season.
All injury prone. Likely one of them comes up lame in the next couple of games and is lost for the season.
If DW goes to IR, Cox likely inactive each week until first new injury occurs. When that happens, Giants will probably have to add a RB again (at least to PS) as we wait for the second injury to occur.
Giants will probably just take their chances with Wilson and Brown again next year as they continue reshaping the OL a bit more. RB though will need to be kept on the radar as a need, that's the just the way the NFL works nowadays. RB is a turnstile position anymore and you need to have at minimum two guys capable with a third potentially too and you are probably going to have to call on a vet FA (as we've done half a dozen times the last few yrs).
That said, neither Brown or Wilson have exhibited themselves as long-term considerations or taken a hold of the position. I still have my doubts with Wilson emerging as a serious RB option. Brown, but I do worry about his multiple leg injuries in back to back years.
We will see. My guess is Reese and Co. want to give Wilson a chance to seize the opportunity again for next season.
I think Reese will need to have more urgency than you state above with both Wilson and Brown. Those health issues with both and confidence issues with Wilson cannot be ignored.
Giants need a RB that they can count to carry the rock, pass protect and be there at game time. There should be a new RB from free agency or draft on the team next season to compete for the starting job.
He's too damned injury prone to re-sign. Ben Tate has been mentioned here a few times as an option at RB. I'd be down for signing him if the price is right. Ideally, if Wilson is healthy, I'd like to see him used like the Saints use Sproles.
he was still learning the position, and now his learning curve is interrupted. I'm guessing that in year 3, this first round draft pick is still going to be a part time player. Remember, he only got the starting job because Brown was on IR, and then he lost it, albeit temporarily, to a guy who was waived a week later.
There is room to question whether his RB skills were up to snuff for a first round draft pick. Also room to wonder whether this pre-existing condition was one that could have been known about.
Hopefully we don't have to hear people crap all over him for the rest of the year. Out of sight, out of mind...
Hearing David Wilson to IR could be the move. Nothing official from #NYG, but for Andre Brown return + crowded backfield, makes most
Conor Orr @ConorTOrr 3m
The move will not be made until 4 p.m. today, but David Wilson to IR looks like the case, I'm told. Something could change, but...#nyg
Ball security, great pass blocking and positive yardage plays.
Get well David.
makes sense. Damned shame--best wishes to DW!
Why would Rogers go to IR? Isn't he supposed to play Sunday?
Sucks, but it's reality.
With simply a decent OL he can be special.
Add me to Get Well DW folks.
I just hope Brown can stay healthy...
I'm allowed to attack the post and not the poster, right?
This is an epically fucking stupid post.
Damn Jerry Reese for not having the injury crystal ball like the other 31 teams in the league!
Wow.
That combo doesn't seem to work out well for Wilson.
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high draft pick. This is getting very old and the reason we are going down the tubes. We better change our draft philosophy and find football players who are sturdy and proven, not just have high measurables..
A lot of BBI would have given up on Phil Simms by 1984.
1984 is generous. Most of BBI would have given up by 1982.
I have to admit though, when Phil broke his thumb on the 1st series against Philly in 1983 I really thought he was cursed.
That said, neither Brown or Wilson have exhibited themselves as long-term considerations or taken a hold of the position. I still have my doubts with Wilson emerging as a serious RB option. Brown, but I do worry about his multiple leg injuries in back to back years.
We will see. My guess is Reese and Co. want to give Wilson a chance to seize the opportunity again for next season.
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If DW goes to IR, Cox likely inactive each week until first new injury occurs. When that happens, Giants will probably have to add a RB again (at least to PS) as we wait for the second injury to occur.
That said, neither Brown or Wilson have exhibited themselves as long-term considerations or taken a hold of the position. I still have my doubts with Wilson emerging as a serious RB option. Brown, but I do worry about his multiple leg injuries in back to back years.
We will see. My guess is Reese and Co. want to give Wilson a chance to seize the opportunity again for next season.
I think Reese will need to have more urgency than you state above with both Wilson and Brown. Those health issues with both and confidence issues with Wilson cannot be ignored.
Giants need a RB that they can count to carry the rock, pass protect and be there at game time. There should be a new RB from free agency or draft on the team next season to compete for the starting job.
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There is room to question whether his RB skills were up to snuff for a first round draft pick. Also room to wonder whether this pre-existing condition was one that could have been known about.
The Steelers took Jarvis Jones in the 1st rd this past April with full knowledge of his stenosis, so..