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The Giants will win the division. Here's how.

Beez : 11/11/2013 10:22 am
First, we all need to get aboard the Train Powered by Positive Thinking. If you're at all familiar with the "Law of Attraction," then you may believe that envisioning success attracts that success.

Granted, it'll take a lot of us to counteract those who simply live in a world where everything "sucks."

So with that, here is what we will see unfold the rest of the way. And no, I do NOT envision this as unrealistic at all.

Week 11
Redskins (4-6) beat the Eagles (5-6)
Giants (4-6) beat the Rodgers-less Packers
Cowboys (5-5) have a bye

Week 12
49ers beat the Redskins (4-7)
Giants (5-6) edge the Cowboys (5-6)
Eagles (5-6) have a bye

Week 13
Cowboys (6-6) beat the Raiders on T'Giving Day
Cardinals beat the Eagles (5-7)
Giants (6-6) beat the Redskins (4-8)

Week 14
Lions beat the Eagles (5-8)
Chiefs beat the Redskins (4-9)
Giants (7-6) find a way to beat the Chargers
(MON) Bears (at home) beat the Cowboys 6-7)

Week 15
Redskins (5-9) edge the Falcons
Seahawks beat the Giants in a close game (7-7)
Eagles (6-8) beat the Vikings
Packers top the Cowboys (6-8) as Rodgers returns (Dec. 15)

Week 16
Cowboys (7-8) beat the Redskins (5-10)
Bears beat the Eagles (6-9)
Giants (8-7) upset the Lions in Detroit
(Eli has a career-type day in the dome, out-gunning Stafford.)

Week 17
Giants (9-7) beat the Redskins (5-11) soundly
Cowboys (8-8) beat the Eagles (6-10)


See it. And it will happen.

Remember, see what you wish to see in the future, and don't dwell on what has passed. This is possible.
I have adopted this song as the Giants anthem  
Ben in Tampa : 11/11/2013 10:27 am : link
for the rest of the year. I believe.
Are You Ready For a Miracle? - ( New Window )
Stranger things have happened.  
Giantology : 11/11/2013 10:29 am : link
I'm All In
I feel  
Eli owns all : 11/11/2013 10:30 am : link
we win vs Seattle rather than win vs Detroit.
Fuck it  
Danny Kanell : 11/11/2013 10:32 am : link
I'm all in.
Eli Owns ...  
Beez : 11/11/2013 10:33 am : link
then see that. We'll take either one as a win!
My Chips to the Center of the Table..  
BBurns : 11/11/2013 10:34 am : link
I forgot the Dip .
Keep the Dream Alive .
If we could ever get the passing game  
gmen9892 : 11/11/2013 10:35 am : link
Back on track, I dont see why we cant go on a run like this.
Beex...I really don't want to hear about  
Geeman : 11/11/2013 10:38 am : link
"all we need to do"....that's been stated for the last couple of years, that's up there with what they've done in the past.
That said...I've never been out like some fans here. I always thought the Giants could win this division and never lost faith, although it was rocky for awhile there and we are still not out of the woods yet.
GB, Dallas and Redskin games are the biggest on the schedule.
We have to take of business in division  
nybeast : 11/11/2013 10:39 am : link
There is no other way, but the Giants in recent years have had perennial brain farts against the Redskins, including in both Super Bowl runs. To me I am more concerned with the Skins games than any of the rest including Seattle, Detroit, and San Diego.
We have to take of business in division  
nybeast : 11/11/2013 10:42 am : link
There is no other way, but the Giants in recent years have had perennial brain farts against the Redskins, including in both Super Bowl runs. To me I am more concerned with the Skins games than any of the rest including Seattle, Detroit, and San Diego.
You know, its not out of the question and could possibly happen  
PatersonPlank : 11/11/2013 10:42 am : link
By the way, I disagree with your assessment of the Cowboys game. We will soundly trounce the Cowgirls.
giantfanboy : 11/11/2013 10:44 am : link
let's beat Green bay
who cares about the rest?
worry more about  
mdc1 : 11/11/2013 10:47 am : link
winning our next game.
Talk about a strange kind of business model  
G-MEN-IN-MIAMI : 11/11/2013 10:52 am : link
if the Giants ever win this divison with an 0-6 start they will be talking about this and referring to it as some kind of case study for decades every time a team starts out 0-4, 0-5, 0-6 in a weak division. But the Giants have always been the kind of organization to pave the way in this league so why not?
this would be awfully nice  
mikecf2 : 11/11/2013 10:53 am : link
but it ain't happening not with the way eli and the atrocious offensive line are playing. That said I love the enthusiasm slash delusion.
You have the Eagles losing  
Knee of Theismann : 11/11/2013 11:02 am : link
5 of their last 6? I don't know about that.
Phucque Yeah!!  
Johnny5 : 11/11/2013 11:05 am : link
I'm in. I'm in until, well until I'm out!
dorgan : 11/11/2013 11:06 am : link
you got some kind of personal anecdote to compare our future run to?
Maybe something referring to a maiden aunt or your drunk uncle joe?
Other Than The Obvious Crucial Game In 2 Weeks  
Trainmaster : 11/11/2013 11:10 am : link
versus Dallas, having to win 2 of the following 3 (at SD, as Det and vs Seattle) will prove to be very difficult.

I am part of the "Giants faithful" and given we're only 1.5 games out after going 0-6 who knows if we can find a way to win the NFC East, but I think the 0-6 hole will be too big to climb out of.

I will be very surprised and glad if we end up 8-8 after going 0-6. If that proves to be sufficient to win the division (meaning we got a lot of help from other teams), so be it.
No game  
halfback20 : 11/11/2013 11:10 am : link
is a guarantee this year, obviously. But I agree that the toughest two games will be Seattle and Detroit. Gotta win one of them though.
The players ad coaches need to use the  
Tom from LI : 11/11/2013 11:11 am : link
Law of Attraction.. not us.. you can't use it for somebody else.

Is your scenario possible... yes.

Will it happen, probably not now that you laid it out perfectly.

I am not a Fewell fan but I am impressed with how the defense is playing.

On the flip side the offense scares the hell out of me.

That being said I think we will miss the division by more than 2 games. I am still sticking with my pre season prediction of 6 and 10.

They will lose : San Diego, Washington once, Detroit and Seattle.

I hope I am wrong... The offense and special teams just needs to stop making mistakes... costly mistakes..

We will not beat a good team the way we are winning games right now.
First of all that was fun and well done  
JoefromPa : 11/11/2013 11:12 am : link
but secondly, I think we have believed all along that if the Giants won 9 of their last 10 games they would have a realistic opportunity to win the division.

But thanks for the break down of the schedule it was informative.

Although in the NFL you can never assume a win or a loss.
not only that, but,  
fame56 : 11/11/2013 11:12 am : link
this scenario also has us winning 6 out of our next 7!..

while I love the op's enthusiasm and optimism, I just dont see that happening given the current state of our beloved team..

special teams are killing us and we are nowhere near where we need to be offensively, plus we have not been tested through the air defensively in the last 3 wins

i'm enjoying the current win streak but am trying to remain realistic about where we will wind up in 2013 given the obvious weaknesses of our team

matt barkley, josh freeman, and terrelle pryor aint exactly tony romo, rg3, phillip rivers, and/or the detroit lions in detroit

just sayin..
Asking the Redskins to beat the Eagles seems like a tall order  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/11/2013 11:13 am : link
right now.
The Eagles will do better  
Reale01 : 11/11/2013 11:18 am : link
I agree with you and have been "aboard" since we were 0-6 and I posted that we could finish 9-7 (much abuse from BBI). I hate to say it, but IMO the Eagles will do better than you predict. I see them at 8-8 and 3-3 in the division. We could beat them with 8-8 4-2. I see Dallas as 7-9 and Washington no better than 7-9.

8-8 4-2 can win. Still thinking 9-7 is possible. KEEP THE DREAM ALIVE!
I am with you!  
GiantsUA : 11/11/2013 11:23 am : link
Eli - finds his mojo, put's the team on his back and jogs into the post season.
I could see 8-8.  
AnnapolisMike : 11/11/2013 11:28 am : link
But 9-7 is a tall task. I also think the division is the Eagles to win or lose at this point. I have a feeling Dallas is going to collapse.

This team to me  
mjvm52106 : 11/11/2013 11:31 am : link
has the schedule lining up exactly as it did in the playoffs of 2011. That year we had the teams fall just right so that we didn't have to go to New Orleans and that also forced the Saints (if they won their playoff game) to go to San Fran, a slower field that took the advantage their offense had away. The Giants got Atlanta - a team that couldn't beat them outdoors, Green Bay- who they always play very well against and then SF a tam they had beaten in SF earlier that year.

This year the Giants are getting healthy (more in cohesion and players coming back to full strength) playing teams that are not at full strength while building momentum. They still have not played a great clean game yet but that is the beauty of it, win ugly until things start really working well. Yesterday the wind played a major role in the offensive hiccups. The play calling is still not great (in terms of type of plays called at times of the game where momentum is needed or where momentum can be given away too easily) but there is something very important going on that nobody is really talking about.

The Giants running game is vastly improved since the start of the season. Jim Cordle seems to have settled in at Center and though not great, is not a huge liability either. The Running Backs we have now- bigger, bulkier and stronger, are allowing us to pound on teams. Its not the yds per carry that matter, it is the number of runs we are calling. Andre Brown was great yesterday and showed more burst and movement than any back we have on the current roster. With Jacobs coming back soon, we will have 3 big backs that can block, run and in some respects catch the football. by shortening the game (like yesterday) and by getting teams to over commit to stop the run, the Giants offense will soon be able to use play action passes again.

The packers game will be tougher than some think, regardless of their 3rd string QB. We have to continue to run the ball to lessen the risky throws that have cost Eli all season. The Dallas game is perfect for the Giants as the Boys have a very thin Dline and they will need to over play the run to slow the Giants down. The Giants will be able to take advantage of that over playing and attack a weaker defensive backfield.

The Skins game looks like a good matchup for the Giants improved defense as they will stop the run and get after RGIII.

San Diego doesn't really scare me and it may be the game that Eli gets off slump and throws for 300+ and some scores.

The season then comes down to 3 games- Seattle, Detroit and the Skins again. If the Giants go and 2-1 they win the division. If they go 1-2 they could still win the division if the Boys and Eagles falter but the Boys need to lose some in division games.

I think Seattle is a tougher matchup with our offense against their defense and the Lions a tougher matchup of our Defense against their offense. BUT, both games are winnable...

I think the Gmen roll the rest of the season (not always pretty but still victorious) and win the division at 10-6. Nobody scares me in the NFC. 49ers offense is beatable. Seattle has won games this year that they should have lost and they have struggled with a weak oline. Detroit, Chicago and Green Bay are all beatable. The panthers are the one team that scares me most because of their defense but besides that the Giants have the ability to play with anybody.

The biggest issue that MUST stop are the stupid turnovers that plague this team. You can't give the other team points each week and expect to win. The Giants defense has not allowed anyone to really do damage (albeit with subpar QB play against them) to them in weeks. Even the Bears struggled all second half of the Thursday night game, which marked loss #6 for the Giants, to get anything going. take away points that Eli and the offense gave the Bears and the Giants defense was pretty darn solid.

Giants won the Super Bowl in 2011 with a 9-7 record, where in the middle of the season they were pretty pathetic. They started this year pathetic but in reality were in the games against the Boys, Eagles and Bears all the way till the end. All of those games the Giants offense beat themselves with turnovers or the special teams was anything but special.

If the Giants continue to build on what they have done the last 3.5 games, they will be in a position to do something very special this year... I am all in and I believe this team has something special happening and maybe with the return of some injured players- T2, Andre Brown, the trade for Jon Beason and the bringing back of a 2 time SB Champ and emotional leader in Brandon Jacobs, some magic has suddenly appeared.....
EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 11/11/2013 11:36 am : link
I would feel more comfortable with your scenario if you gave me a helmet and they let me play.
You have the Bears beating the Cowboys  
GMANinDC : 11/11/2013 11:44 am : link
with a nanged up Jay Cutler and you also have the Eagles tanking the rest of the season..And you're assuming Rodgers is going to be healthy and play well..

That's a lot to envision..
GMANinDC : 11/11/2013 11:46 am : link
i think the Eagles are going to beat the Skins on saturday..
Love this post  
Sehorn : 11/11/2013 12:00 pm : link
"bELIeve it, and it WILL happen"
I see the Eagles beating Wash and Dallas.  
Boy Cord : 11/11/2013 12:01 pm : link
Possibly the Cards as well. That gives them 9. I need to check Rat's thread to see how we are set up with the tie breakers.
Dallas game is a tossup....  
Doomster : 11/11/2013 12:05 pm : link
I see us splitting with Wash....

We lose to SD, Seattle and 6-10 or 5-11....

This offense, after 9 games, is what it is.....this defense has played well against losing teams.....I just don't see them having big games against the rest of the schedule(GB without a qb yes, but the rest no)...

It's been a frustrating year watching this team...even their wins are gut wrenching....while there is still a chance, the likelyhood that this offense will somehow just turn it "on", just does not seem feasible with this OL, no TE, and a running attack that hinges on an injury prone RB....
Matt M. : 11/11/2013 12:32 pm : link
I actually think that is all possible. The bottom line is, with the rest of our division, 8-8 or 9-7 will be the record of the division winner. Even with a horrendous start, both are attainable for the Giants.

I actually really believe and I don't care if every single win the rest of the way is an ugly one as long as we win. At the same time, I can't help thinking about what this season would have looked like if they played up to their potential. They could almost have the division wrapped up. Hell, if they even won just 2 of the 5 games they could/should have, then they are in 1st place.
I believe! I believe!  
micky : 11/11/2013 12:57 pm : link
always have. It's magic!
When it does happen  
micky : 11/11/2013 1:18 pm : link
this phrase will come to mind
Link - ( New Window )
I like it  
Fish : 11/11/2013 1:27 pm : link
but one game at a time. I don't have to worry about any other game but this one coming up vs Pack. But its fun to play and dream....
gidiefor : Mod : 11/11/2013 1:37 pm : link
your math is off with the Cowboys - you have them going into the bye at 5-5 and coming out of the bye with a different record - some how according to your calculations above - that leads to an 8-8 record before they play the last game -

If somehow Giants turn this around and get to the playoffs it would be  
GloryDayz : 11/11/2013 1:38 pm : link
One of the most memorable, if not THE most memorable, non-SB winning season.

Now dare I say, if they happen to win the SB (yeah day dreaming of miracles), it would be the most memorable season in the history of sports!!!!
I love this thread...  
bradshaw44 : 11/11/2013 1:45 pm : link
Although I think we lose 2 more and take the division at 8-8. But either way, I believe!!!
I'm in.  
I'mRonBurgandy? : 11/11/2013 1:48 pm : link
Hey look! A rainbow!
Pep talk?  
Reale01 : 11/11/2013 2:27 pm : link
They counted us out in 2004, and again in 2007. They said it was the end of the line for Andre Brown. They said it was the end end of the line for TT.

"It isn't over til we say it is!" - Senator Blutarski


"They said Marvin Austin, Travis Beckham, and Clint Sintim couldn't play in the NFL" - oops went a little TOO far.

I prefer to stick with door number one.

Eagles, unfortunately, right now look like the team to beatů...  
Simms11 : 11/11/2013 3:27 pm : link
their offense has played much better with Foles and their Defense is also much improved. Will be very tough for us, unless the Eagles falter in the Division.
gidie ... at any rate, 8-8.  
Beez : 11/11/2013 8:43 pm : link

Dorgan, you could choose to let that stuff be. I'll have enough anecdotes, over time. Hang in there.
Believe it and it will happen ...  
Giantfan4life : 11/12/2013 12:35 am : link
I haven't heard Deion sing it all year, for good reason, because he hasn't! But I believe in ELI and that starting this week vs. Packers Deion starts singing it.
Well... week 11  
Giantfan4life : 11/19/2013 2:29 am : link
is a little off.
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