Sept 8th; @Dallas; 3 Interceptions; Loss
Sept 15th; Denver; 4 Interceptions; Loss
Oct 6th; Philly; 3 Interceptions; Loss
Oct 10th; @ Chi; 3 Interceptions; Loss
San Diego is long road trip - maybe the furthest possible destination for the Giants to travel in the entire NFL.
Detroit's dome represents a serious home field advantage for them.
I can easily see us losing all three, even with a better team taking the field than the one we currently have.
Oh yeah, and that's the other thing: we have no idea exactly how good or bad this team really is, seeing as how our three-game winning streak has come against some of the very worst QBs in North America - and the fourth coming to town on Sunday. Our schedule starts to get a whole lot harder next week, and doesn't let up for the rest of the season.
all that assures is a mediocre drafting position. The Giants have given us plenty of great seasons in the past 25 years or so. I can deal with a 4-12 and a high draft spot for 1 year to retool. A top 5 pick could reap a huge draft pick windfall from a team desperate for a QB.
How would history have been altered if the 2003 Giants "rallied", to 8-8 or 9-7 and missed the playoffs? Would Fassel have been axed? We certainly wouldn't have Eli to kick around. Sometimes a step back to take 2 forward is a good thing.
including Seattle. They can be beat on the road, here, in the cold in December...that is a very winnable game. We will have a much tougher game with Washington than anyone else.
I think the best they go can go is 9-7, which is also possible. 7-9 seems more likely to me though. It's only a prediction. None of these guys, including any of us, have a crystal ball. Nobody knows. It's all in fun and for the purpose of filling air time.
all that assures is a mediocre drafting position. The Giants have given us plenty of great seasons in the past 25 years or so. I can deal with a 4-12 and a high draft spot for 1 year to retool. A top 5 pick could reap a huge draft pick windfall from a team desperate for a QB.
How would history have been altered if the 2003 Giants "rallied", to 8-8 or 9-7 and missed the playoffs? Would Fassel have been axed? We certainly wouldn't have Eli to kick around. Sometimes a step back to take 2 forward is a good thing.
I wouldn't have a problem with that.
I think we're past the point of serious changes being made.
Giants at a 6-6 record with 4 games to go, and presumably tied for first place at that time with Philly (maybe). That would be shocking of course based on the start of this season.
But then they predict the Giants "blow it" by losing 3 of the final 4 games.
I agree with you about Washington. Always a tough game and griffin and Morris seem to be back to their old ways. Tough games but winnable. I don't look at this schedule thinking any game is a sure loss. We can honestly win them all the way this defense is playing. Still waiting for a Classic Eli game. 3 td and 1 int with 300+ yards( realistic)
And will be better than 50/50 to beat Detroit. SD, Detroit and Dallas are similar teams. Better than average offense, bad defense. We'll beat them all.
Im sure we all noticed our speed to the edge last week vs. pryor....we can really run with j.will and rivers at olb......and beason telling them what to do
Looks like we were baiting pryor to take the corner then wed close it up
In the bears game might cost us everything ... What a bum
Junc - Its difficult to point to any one thing obviously in a season, but I don't disagree with you that was a HUGE play that we missed on. Cost us a win and is a loss against a common opponent.
Hopefully Chicago beats Dallas and Philly for us later in the year.
The players didn't pack it in at 0-6 so that probably buys us another year of this same team with roster changes.
It doesn't matter what Reese thinks of TC. Anything involving Tom is going to be John Mara's call. I really believe that.
The notion that we can squeak out four wins in a row against two 3rd string QBs, a backup on the team for 39 minutes, and Terrelle Pryor and it buys this group more time is miserable.
winning a few different games. I don't think 7 - 9 will be enough to win the division though. BUT... I do think 8 - 8 wins the division and I still think that is possible but it will be very hard.
I think Dallas finishes 7 - 9 too but they would take the division due to divisional win/loss record.
I had the Eagles at 6 - 10 but I also had them losing to Green Bay.
I have the Redskins finishing 6 - 10 as well.
But what the heck do I know? The greatest thing about this game is a bad team can beat a great team on any given day.
Also, this wouldn't amount to "blowing it" after a comeback to 6-6
The schedule in December is simply much harder than the schedule has been during this six game stretch we're in the middle of, where the only team that's not terrible is Dallas, and they're losing starters by the second and we play them at home.
If the team gets to 6-6 and promptly loses 2 of 3 to Seattle and Detroit, that'd be expected, not "blowing it" or "choking" or "collapsing" or w/e.
...doesn't mean we can't pick up a very, very good offensive lineman in the middle of the first round. Someone has gotta be there who can help this team!!!
The schedule in December is simply much harder than the schedule has been during this six game stretch we're in the middle of, where the only team that's not terrible is Dallas, and they're losing starters by the second and we play them at home.
If the team gets to 6-6 and promptly loses 2 of 3 to Seattle and Detroit, that'd be expected, not "blowing it" or "choking" or "collapsing" or w/e.
Just saying how NFLN (and rest of media) would convey it.
our next 2 games and losing the rest. Suspect we will be lucky to win 6 games. That Lions game will probably expose this oline more than we have seen so far.
True, but the concept of "strength of schedule" is lost
...no matter how hard we try to shine that Eli apple this year, there are worms in it. He has been awful. And for a 10-year vet with two Super Bowl MVPs, he has been ridiculously awful!
however the fundamentals on this team are really bad in some very basic football areas. I don't think I have seen them dominate anybody in any phase in any game this year, that is what is troubling.
however the fundamentals on this team are really bad in some very basic football areas. I don't think I have seen them dominate anybody in any phase in any game this year, that is what is troubling.
They are just pacing themselves...
RE: Hey! Finishing 7-9 and getting a mediocre draft pick...
...doesn't mean we can't pick up a very, very good offensive lineman in the middle of the first round. Someone has gotta be there who can help this team!!!
Yes, correct. What is damning though is if it takes 2 seasons to resolve this oline due to the careless negligence by Reese and crew.
This team can go either way. Based on what we have seen so far, 7-9 is much more likely than 9-7. However, with slight improvements of offense and specials, 9-7 is possible.
Get to the dance, then worry about how long you will stay.
And a disgusting record to win a division with...
Sept 8th; @Dallas; 3 Interceptions; Loss
Sept 15th; Denver; 4 Interceptions; Loss
Oct 6th; Philly; 3 Interceptions; Loss
Oct 10th; @ Chi; 3 Interceptions; Loss
San Diego is long road trip - maybe the furthest possible destination for the Giants to travel in the entire NFL.
Detroit's dome represents a serious home field advantage for them.
I can easily see us losing all three, even with a better team taking the field than the one we currently have.
Oh yeah, and that's the other thing: we have no idea exactly how good or bad this team really is, seeing as how our three-game winning streak has come against some of the very worst QBs in North America - and the fourth coming to town on Sunday. Our schedule starts to get a whole lot harder next week, and doesn't let up for the rest of the season.
How would history have been altered if the 2003 Giants "rallied", to 8-8 or 9-7 and missed the playoffs? Would Fassel have been axed? We certainly wouldn't have Eli to kick around. Sometimes a step back to take 2 forward is a good thing.
How would history have been altered if the 2003 Giants "rallied", to 8-8 or 9-7 and missed the playoffs? Would Fassel have been axed? We certainly wouldn't have Eli to kick around. Sometimes a step back to take 2 forward is a good thing.
I wouldn't have a problem with that.
It doesn't matter what Reese thinks of TC. Anything involving Tom is going to be John Mara's call. I really believe that.
It doesn't matter what Reese thinks of TC. Anything involving Tom is going to be John Mara's call. I really believe that.
Which is unacceptable to me.
But then they predict the Giants "blow it" by losing 3 of the final 4 games.
Im sure we all noticed our speed to the edge last week vs. pryor....we can really run with j.will and rivers at olb......and beason telling them what to do
Looks like we were baiting pryor to take the corner then wed close it up
Junc - Its difficult to point to any one thing obviously in a season, but I don't disagree with you that was a HUGE play that we missed on. Cost us a win and is a loss against a common opponent.
Hopefully Chicago beats Dallas and Philly for us later in the year.
Not the record the fact that we'd win the division...
In comment 11336880 Tuckrule said:
Yes, the play to Myers that was tipped and picked off to spoil potential game-winning drive at end of the game.
And then roll to the SB at home. And win that fucking thing.
How you like THEM apples??
It doesn't matter what Reese thinks of TC. Anything involving Tom is going to be John Mara's call. I really believe that.
The notion that we can squeak out four wins in a row against two 3rd string QBs, a backup on the team for 39 minutes, and Terrelle Pryor and it buys this group more time is miserable.
I think Dallas finishes 7 - 9 too but they would take the division due to divisional win/loss record.
I had the Eagles at 6 - 10 but I also had them losing to Green Bay.
I have the Redskins finishing 6 - 10 as well.
But what the heck do I know? The greatest thing about this game is a bad team can beat a great team on any given day.
If the team gets to 6-6 and promptly loses 2 of 3 to Seattle and Detroit, that'd be expected, not "blowing it" or "choking" or "collapsing" or w/e.
Eli has some things to clean up but there are contributing factors also.
If the team gets to 6-6 and promptly loses 2 of 3 to Seattle and Detroit, that'd be expected, not "blowing it" or "choking" or "collapsing" or w/e.
Just saying how NFLN (and rest of media) would convey it.
They are just pacing themselves...
Yes, correct. What is damning though is if it takes 2 seasons to resolve this oline due to the careless negligence by Reese and crew.
The question is: Will our offense hang some points on them... or just hang themselves?
Get to the dance, then worry about how long you will stay.