I do not want to make this a whole indictment of Reese's philosophy. But, it angers me that he cannot get on the field, especially given our poor play from the TE position (although Meyers might have had his most impactful game yesterday with some really timely catches). When you draft a tight end in the fourth round, project or not, injuries or not, he needs to get on the field by the middle of November in his second season. What has he dressed, two games in his career? I really am doubting whether he will every play for us and whether this was just a stupid pick on a project at way too high a place in the draft.
after that INT I would argue that JPP would be a better TE than Robinson :)
Remember Brian Alford <shudder> I do.
I'd have more faith in his long term prospects if he had done anything at the NFL level, or at least in college. He wasn't even used a lot at Cincinnati, since they ran a five WR set. Ross said as much after he was drafted.
Reese claiming he is the "JPP of TEs" just proves that Robinson was taken primarily based on his measureables. Like Austin, Barden, Petrus, Brewer, and many others. Like them, Robinson is another "high ceiling," "low floor," player.
This has to stop. Leave those guys for the sixth and seventh rounds. Too many bust. The NFL graveyard is littered with guys with "wow" measureables who never did anything. I'd rather get a guy with some proven football success, even if they don't have the "eye popping" workout numbers.
The end result is that we won't be getting anything from Robinson this year, and maybe not next year as well, even if he can finally stay healthy.
They basically did nothing also. Not saying that is what he will become, but this sometimes happens when you take these raw athletes and make them TE's.
I don't understand how he dressed Jerrigan every week. Coaches enjoy privileges. Who suits up is one of them.
If Reese wanted, he could have decided not to sign a FA TE. So he, at least, to some degree agrees with TC about Robinson.
Unfortunately stats don't reveal games started, etc., so seem pretty limitted with respect to value.
Love to see something quantitative that would be more revealing than info on one single player/team. But this is the best I can find.
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Sorry this coaching staff has lost the benefit of the doubt. After Stokley over Cruz. After putting O'Hara back on the field. After the borderline insane loyalty to Diehl.
Guys like Brewer and Robinson might be horrible or too green to play but there's just as much chance they're as good a Cruz and will never get a chance until everyone else in front of them is too injured to play.
Jerry said Brewer had "left tackle feet," and now he can't even beat out Diehl at guard. He also missed a ton of time at Indiana because of foot and ankle injuries. Petrus was a converted TE with limited experience at guard, but broke the combine record for bench presses. Austin had great workouts that were supposed to offset his not having played for more than a year when he was drafted. Barden was a super tall guy whose height was supposed to allow him to dominate smaller WRs in the NFL. Similar to Burress. Cooper Taylor might fit into this category as well. And so on.
Kuhn is a guy who was drafted largely based on his measureables. He had little football experience. The same for Cox. But they were seventh round picks.
Few people would be criticizing Reese for taking Robinson if he had done so in the sixth or seventh, and not the fourth round, and if he didn't have a bad track record of wrongly emphasizing measureables over football success.
Has AR stepped up similarly? No. Injuries certainly have been a part of this equation, but coaches see these men every day in meetings, chalk talk, the practice field, the weight room, etc.
In other words, they know what the player is made of until the player proves he's made of more.
Are coaches 100% infallible? No, but it's silly to assume they're wrong more often than not.
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was another reach by Reese and Ross based on athletic ability not demonstrated ability to play football. Those two are always trying to land the next STEAL for thier ego's.
Yeah, that has to be it. Always trying to land that next steal for their ego. You really think that's what they are doing?
All of the coaches have said the same thing...he's got a ton of talent, but he needs work. And they have all said that the missed time this year has really set him back.
It's not more complicated than that.
The Gambler
There's some gaping holes in the last several draft classes where measurables pushed a kid into a higher round than he probably should have been. You can have one maybe two flyers on the last day of the Draft.....but when you come out of the "Player Selection Meeting" with Sintim, Barden, Beckum and Bomar......you're depth is going to take a hit.
The Number of Players still on NFL Rosters is a bad Metric. Barden has been on a Roster for 4 years and only has like 30 catches to show for it (most of them came in the Carolina game). His pension is going to be over $400K per year.
Thank you. Things happen that cause players to miss time and when a player was drafted based on measureables only, it takes even more time for him to recover.
The coaches know what he has right nowand he's not ready yet, but that doesn't mean he won't ever be a contributor.
Some players take a lot of time to develop.
Some of the expectations around here are totally unreasonable. Our odds for success with Robinson were never more than 25%.
btw, the guy who wrote the article doesn't seem to have been much of a judge of talent. Many of the guys he loves are out of the league, the few standouts today are guys he shits on.
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3 TE's are ahead of Robinson on Depth
chart..dont expect Rob unless one gets hurt..
Moore is hardly playing
Haven't heard of him. Some guys named Julius Thomas and Jordan Cameron play in the NFL too
Analysis: Geno Atkins had a good Senior Bowl but he is undersized and will get pushed around. He will work hard but is mainly a rotation guy.
C+"
Now, if he doesn't play next year...