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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 9:22 am
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Please TC, if we win the toss,  
Big Blue '56 : 11/24/2013 10:45 am : link
DEFER!
Are the Giants still yapping about how they can't lose  
ZogZerg : 11/24/2013 10:46 am : link
today? Nothing ticks me off more than seeing that shit posted on NFL . com.
I want to crush them 2011 season finale-style.  
GMenLTS : 11/24/2013 10:50 am : link
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The Giant Players  
thevett : 11/24/2013 10:53 am : link
are correct. They can't lose today or their season is over.
Obviously, it will be hard to throw deep  
Doomster : 11/24/2013 10:55 am : link
with possible wind gusts of 20-30 mph....

So whichever team has the best short to intermediate passing game, should prevail....but then there are those nasty turnovers....it decided the first game, it will decide this one too...

With these weather conditions, if one team falls behind significantly, it will be very hard to play catch up....but this Giant team has never gone for the jugular when it has a team on the ropes.....

This offense has done nothing since the first two games....time for it to wake up....hopefully Nicks, if he is physically able, can have that game we have been waiting all year for....

If the wind is prevailing in one direction  
PEEJ : 11/24/2013 10:58 am : link
look for teams going into the wind to run the ball and eat the clock. Then throw with the wind at their back
Romo  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 10:59 am : link
is probably going to target Witten 20 times in this game with the wind conditions.
Blitz Witten  
PEEJ : 11/24/2013 11:14 am : link
make him block
RE: Romo  
Simms11 : 11/24/2013 11:15 am : link
In comment 11354698 Eric from BBI said:
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is probably going to target Witten 20 times in this game with the wind conditions.


It's time for JWill to step up and shut down the Romo to Witten connection today. He's been getting better and this would be a tremendous opportunity for him to step up.
Concern today has to be turnovers…...  
Simms11 : 11/24/2013 11:16 am : link
I keep hearing that the Giants won't have 6 turnovers again today, however this weather is not going to help in that regard. I just hope that Dallas is the team putting the ball on the ground today.
The weather favors Dallas big time  
deadkurtrulz : 11/24/2013 11:17 am : link
They will stack the box and dare Eli to throw. Eli has been throwing badly in perfect conditions all year. The conditions today are similar to the conditions for the Giants Eagle playoff game in 2008 when Eli was helpless.Also, I have ZERO confidence in Josh Brown making any kicks in this wind.

The Giants need to run the ball and force turnovers to win. If Dallas scores early it could get very ugly if Eli needs to bring Giants back.

Giants need to score first and have defense stuff run and batter Romo.

Dallas secondary has been a weakness  
PEEJ : 11/24/2013 11:19 am : link
I'm not sure they can survive with 8 in the box (even with the wind)
I just saw this tread at the CowboysZone  
fanatic : 11/24/2013 11:29 am : link
Wow, 3.5 million.
Link - ( New Window )
Who does the weather affect more?  
Jerry K : 11/24/2013 11:30 am : link
It depends on whether or not Gilbride calls a smart game.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 11:31 am : link
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Floyd just dropped 3.5 million on Dallas +2.5

They guy is known for high stakes bets and is usually spot on. So, I decided to look around to see who the heavy hitters were on today and it looks like about 80% are on Dallas as well.

Kiss of death or are we over-analyzing this game and we get the win?
Romo  
Big Blue '56 : 11/24/2013 11:31 am : link
22-5 in November. Best in the NFL
RE: Blitz Witten  
AnishPatel : 11/24/2013 11:32 am : link
In comment 11354727 PEEJ said:
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make him block


Why waste him for that? Have him go out on patterns so Romo can get to him before the blitz gets there.
If, in fact, Dallas schemes to make Eli throw  
pganut : 11/24/2013 11:33 am : link
This would be a good game for Nicks to purge the drops from his game and for Myers to show up ready.
While they are coming off the bye week  
Sec 103 : 11/24/2013 11:35 am : link
I am somewhat confident in the Jints today.
We gave the first one to them, we need to take this one away!
GO GIANTS!!!!!
RE: jcn,  
jcn56 : 11/24/2013 11:41 am : link
In comment 11354654 Big Blue '56 said:
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Haven't checked any weather reports, but I take it, be it Brooklyn or Jersey, there's tough winds over a wide area, yes?


It's nasty out there. Granted, wind conditions can change at any given point in time, but the marine forecasts currently say we're getting a steady 20 knots with 40 knot gusts inshore, which usually looks worse in East Rutherford because the winds start to swirl like crazy over there.
wind  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 11:43 am : link
is supposed to start dying down around 6PM.
Eric - these marine forecasts  
jcn56 : 11/24/2013 11:45 am : link
(which are via subscription from Sirius) are usually pretty dead on in terms of accuracy - say that we're looking at a steady 20 with the gusts until after 11 PM.
Not quite sure but this might be the windiest game the Giants  
micky : 11/24/2013 11:47 am : link
have played in since in Metlife. The wind here are gusts at times, but not steady. Like Eric said, by game time the wind may or may not lessen, but, what I learned through the years at the Meadowlands, when there's even slightests of wind..it seems much more there because the area in.
PBF is always on the money?  
lalalalala : 11/24/2013 11:49 am : link

he took Michigan over Alabama two years ago
I think the biggest concern  
Rjanyg : 11/24/2013 12:06 pm : link
Is Romo pulling it down and running with it. I can see Dallas spreading us out and creating running lanes for Murray, then play action roll outs and bootlegs with the run pass option for Romo.

That's how I would approach the conditions today.
rj  
lalalalala : 11/24/2013 12:08 pm : link

but at the same time, if you can't throw the ball past 10 yards effectively, you can just go single high and put someone on Romo
If Romo runs,  
CT Charlie : 11/24/2013 12:18 pm : link
I hope he runs into Beason.
Smart money is on Dallas.  
GiantsUA : 11/24/2013 12:55 pm : link
I think some of the Giants early season frustration is taken out on the cowboys.

I like Eli over Romo. 5 turnovers(instead of 6) and the Giants would have won meeting # 1.
Watching the Balt/Jets game.....  
Doomster : 11/24/2013 1:20 pm : link
Anything thrown deep, just hangs in the air.....

Have to pick your spots against the wind, and definitely throw with the wind.....
Keep the dream alive.  
arcarsenal : 11/24/2013 1:23 pm : link
Just win, baby. I don't care if we win 10-9.
Look for Eli to eat the ball more today and  
Simms11 : 11/24/2013 1:26 pm : link
take less chances. It will probably be a very close game again if he does that. If we are turning the ball over again I don;t see how we will be able to win this game. Our STs have to be the best today, as well.
Game plan will be interesting  
Greggiant : 11/24/2013 1:30 pm : link
We have seen the giants try to air it out in conditions like this before. I hope to see the more conservative Gilbride game plan.
Gilbride is going to air it out today....  
Emlen'sGremlins : 11/24/2013 1:56 pm : link
....December '07 vs. Washington 45 MPH style.
The reason why Floyd has gotten the rep of being great at gambling  
montanagiant : 11/24/2013 2:05 pm : link
Is because he only tweets when he wins.
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Mayweather tweeted photographs of 46 betting slips, totaling $3,890,833 worth of bets, and every single one of them was a winner, netting the fighter a cool $3,938,722 (and 87 cents) in winnings on those bets. Losing betting slips have been conspicuous by their absence. When asked about his losing slips, Floyd responded, “Why would I ever show a losing ticket when I’m 41-0.”

So i would take his rep with a grain of salt
Also, all that talk of him going huge on our game  
montanagiant : 11/24/2013 2:14 pm : link
Is coming from the offshore sites and this stream:
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Vegas Gambling Steam ‏@Pregame_Steam 9h
*BIG BET ALERT* Buzz is that Floyd Mayweather is dropping approx 6.5Million on Cowboys +3. Several shops + offshore accts taking his action


First off the reason why a book would even release this is because they need money on Dallas to offset the money on us. They also work under the basic premise that the more money bet, the more they make. No book in its right mind would ever give out info like this unless they wanted others to follow his bet. Books get killed when too much money comes in on one team, they win when its on both
RE: If we had a retractable roof,  
GloryDayz : 11/24/2013 2:30 pm : link
In comment 11354591 Exit 172 said:
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we could close it and then throw, throw, throw all day.


This made me laugh!!!! lol
For once  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 11/24/2013 2:43 pm : link
I'd like the Giants to deliver a total ass fucking in a big spot but you know best case scenario is this goes down to the wire.
Gonna have to run the ball well.  
Ace718 : 11/24/2013 2:44 pm : link
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Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN 12m
Not only is it extremely windy, but they're swirling winds. Flags atop the goalposts on each end are pointed towards midfield. #NYG
Dottino just said that this is the craziest wind  
BlueHurricane : 11/24/2013 2:46 pm : link
He has seen since the new building opened. Need to pound the rock
I hope Conner  
Simms11 : 11/24/2013 2:47 pm : link
is ready to maul people today, because we will need our running game more than ever!
Both Nicks and Hills are inactive.  
Anakim : 11/24/2013 2:48 pm : link
Fuck
Yeah, this game is going to be an utter mess.  
Riggies : 11/24/2013 2:50 pm : link
They're only averaging 3.1 yards/carry during this 4 game win streak, with teams not frequently selling out to stop the run.

Dallas' defense is hurting badly, especially along the DL, but I don't know if it's hurting enough for the Giants to not embarrass themselves offensively today.
I really hate everyone picking the Giants  
Simms11 : 11/24/2013 2:51 pm : link
this team just does not ever do well as the favorite!

THe only saving grace is that the GIants know that if they lose, any chance of them winning the Division is essentially over. Need to come out with energy, enthusiasm and a sense for ball security.
Cold  
AcidTest : 11/24/2013 2:52 pm : link
and windy helps us. It limits the downfield passing game, just like is currently happening the Jets Ravens game. But we have no such game.

So it's ground and pound. And we have a much better running attack and run defense than the Cowboys, especially with Brown, Jacobs, and Conner. We can also use Myers for some short passes. We do still need to be concerned about Witten, but the weather really helps us I think.
The wagering on this game  
Buck Dharma : 11/24/2013 2:55 pm : link
has been 50/50, the early money was on Dallas. I'm always leery of 2 and 2.5 point favorites.
The Giants don't have a much better running attack the Cowboys.  
Riggies : 11/24/2013 2:57 pm : link
They just... don't, even if you only look at the four game win streak numbers vs the Cowboys' season ones. The only thing they have going for them in that comparison is quantity, as in they run the ball for attempts per game than Dallas, and no one should ever confuse quantity for quality.

The "advantage" to the Giants is the defenses being faced today, at least on paper.
For some reason, Coughlin's teams  
oipolloi : 11/24/2013 3:11 pm : link
have not taken advantage of the wind the way Parcells did.

Which is odd, given that Coughlin emphasizes the running game. Maybe "wind-friendly" passes, such as screens, are not as much of a staple of the offense?
I just want to tell all you good luck  
BlueHurricane : 11/24/2013 4:05 pm : link
We're all counting on you.

Let's goooooooooooooooo
Posted by Eric in another thread. Both teams jawing.  
Ace718 : 11/24/2013 4:06 pm : link
On the pre-game show they are saying that it isn't as windy  
Reese's Pieces : 11/24/2013 4:10 pm : link
inside the stadium as everyone expected. And the winds are supposed to subside as evening approaches.
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