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Nicks in real danger of missing game today

Josh in the City : 11/24/2013 12:17 pm
Surprised that I didn't see it posted but if I missed it, I'll delete:

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ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Sunday morning that Hakeem Nicks (questionable, groin) is indeed in danger of missing Week 12.
Per Schefter, Nicks has a strained abdominal muscle, and Schefter received a text message from someone presumably associated with the Giants who said it "might not be looking good" for Nicks to play against the Cowboys. Nicks' absence would be a major matchup upgrade for upstart third receiver Rueben Randle, and a blow to Eli Manning's Week 12 fantasy football outlook. The Giants and Cowboys don't play until 4:25PM ET Sunday afternoon.
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this may be...  
TexasGmenFan : 11/24/2013 2:19 pm : link
one of the singular worst contract seasons for an upper tier player across all sports.

jesus christ.
the  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 2:29 pm : link
situation reeks.

Agent told him to get an abdomen issue checked out. Not the trainers or doctors, but agent?
.  
Rob_MTL : 11/24/2013 2:30 pm : link
16-3 miami

I'm starting  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 2:30 pm : link
to wonder if Nicks is simply shutting it down in preparation for free agency. If true, he's fucking his teammates.
Eric if that's the case  
Ash : 11/24/2013 2:33 pm : link
I hope we let him go and make sure we let every GM in the league know what sort of player they're signing. It might not make a huge difference, but the smaller his market, the less lucrative his contract.
We should not  
TMS : 11/24/2013 2:34 pm : link
start a gimpy Nicks over Jernigan or Murphy. Nicks has not been getting it done when he was healthier. This is frustrating because Jernigan has looked good on some plays when given a shot. Then he f//ks up again and it back to the bench. Come on JJ you have the skill set to dust this Dallas secondary.
.  
Rob_MTL : 11/24/2013 2:34 pm : link
Jets 73 yards of offense in the first half
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 2:37 pm : link
Conor Orr ‏@ConorTOrr 1m

Still don't see Nicks on the field. Just Cruz with the wideouts. #nyg
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 2:38 pm : link
Patricia Traina ‏@Patricia_Traina 52s

Eli is throwing passes to Cruz. No sign of Nicks. I fear I'm going to be surprised afterall.
Damn  
Sneakers O'toole : 11/24/2013 2:41 pm : link
.
I can't even walk outside today  
Neverend : 11/24/2013 2:43 pm : link
Fuck sake. Good luck with this weather!
if hes not hurt and hes just shutting down  
NewYorkGiants : 11/24/2013 2:43 pm : link
Then good riddance.

Piece of shit
eric  
Rob_MTL : 11/24/2013 2:45 pm : link
Quote:
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2:30 pm : link : reply
to wonder if Nicks is simply shutting it down in preparation for free agency.


How does that make any sense?

Seriously
Rob  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 2:47 pm : link
He wasn't on Wednesday's pre-practice injury report. Not listed at all.

Then on Thursday, Nicks says his agent told him to get his stomach checked out.

Coughlin on Thursday: "They say itís better to explain it as an abdominal, whatever that means."

Nicks on Friday, are you playing: "C'mon, it's Dallas."
Eric  
BlueHurricane : 11/24/2013 2:48 pm : link
With the shit production he has put forth this year his agent should be pleading with him to step up his game....... not sit on the bench
also  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 2:48 pm : link
Coughlin on Nicks (Thursday): "I donít know when it occurred. As far as I know, it came up and he reported in on Wednesday with something."
eric  
Rob_MTL : 11/24/2013 2:50 pm : link
Eric are you saying heś pretending to be injured?
Rob  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 2:53 pm : link
Not sure Coughlin isn't.
If he's shutting it down  
pjcas18 : 11/24/2013 2:54 pm : link
in preparation for free agency he isn't or didn't do himself any favors.

he has not looked good since the first Eagles game.

Show me where coughlin stated it  
Rob_MTL : 11/24/2013 2:56 pm : link
this is some wild speculation on your part.
Rob  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 2:57 pm : link
Yup, but let's see how these last five games go with Hakeem.

My gut says he's checked out.
re  
Rob_MTL : 11/24/2013 2:58 pm : link
I think Nicks injury is real and he can't go. The Giants have been hiding it.
The offense has all sucked this year,  
Reese's Pieces : 11/24/2013 2:59 pm : link
with the quarterback the worst offender. But the mob has decided to lynch Nicks.
Even in that first Eagles game, he had that pathetic quit on a route  
Riggies : 11/24/2013 3:01 pm : link
which caused an INT.

Frankly, other than this season's opener, there isn't much he's done since getting stepped on last season by the Bucs that is going to help him in FA.

Something about this situation reeks, I agree, but if he has checked out, he's basically just pissing away more money at this point and certainly not saving or earning himself any.
Reese's  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 3:02 pm : link
because Eli doesn't sulk on the sidelines or sit out when his stomach has a boo-boo.

For Christ sake, he practiced on Thursday and Friday. This game is the season.
Gut feeling....  
Rob_MTL : 11/24/2013 3:03 pm : link
Wow Eric

Don't forget the lemmings follow your lead.

That is your opinion that Nick was sulking on the sidelines,  
Reese's Pieces : 11/24/2013 3:05 pm : link
and that he quit on the route leading to the interception and that he hasn't gotten separation this year. You see what you want to see.

You are also making the determination that he's dogging it by not playing today without any medical report.
RE: The offense has all sucked this year,  
Riggies : 11/24/2013 3:05 pm : link
In comment 11355093 Reese's Pieces said:
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with the quarterback the worst offender. But the mob has decided to lynch Nicks.


Have you missed most of the discussions on this board? Giants fans outside of this place? The media, locally and nationally? He has his legion of excuse-makers sure, but by and large, the QB has and continues to take plenty (most) of blame for this mess.

People acting as though Nicks is getting singled out and scapegoated for the entire team's/offense's failures are honestly starting to venture into Diehl fanboy territory.
Why would someone shut it down during a contract year?  
vibe4giants : 11/24/2013 3:06 pm : link
Isn't that usually the year they play light out. In an effort to, you know, get as big a contract as possible? (And then take it easy.)

I don't recall a player trying to string together a couple of underwhelming, injury plagued years as part of the whole strategy to get paid.

Another theory: the guy who had been plagued by injuries much of career is--get this--injured.
Reese's Pieces  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 3:07 pm : link
No, it's not, Coughlin was pissed at Nicks after the Eagles game. See his post-game press conferences. And there were plenty of articles this week about Nicks on the sidelines and Jacobs having to give him a pep talk.
Plain logic says that it is in Nick's self-interest to have the best  
Reese's Pieces : 11/24/2013 3:08 pm : link
year that he can have this year.
Riggies  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 3:08 pm : link
no one has singled out Nicks for the Giants problems this year. Almost everyone on this board has blamed Eli, the OL, and the coaches.
Eric  
Rob_MTL : 11/24/2013 3:09 pm : link
The articles? The people who create controversy for a living?

Reese's Pieces  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 3:09 pm : link
Yup, but Nicks skipped all of the offseason work, didn't he?

That would have helped him out this year, wouldn't have it?

Again, coaches and Eli talked this week about Nicks missing the offseason work.
And why would his agent encourage such a foolhardy 'strategy'?  
vibe4giants : 11/24/2013 3:10 pm : link
Nicks 'shutting down' would be costing both of them money.

Makes no sense.
Rob  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 3:10 pm : link
so you are saying that Nicks didn't quit running that route against Philly? Or he didn't take himself out of the game last Sunday? And you are saying the sideline stuff was made up by the reporters? OK.
I agree that Nicks shutting it down unless it's a serious injury  
jcn56 : 11/24/2013 3:10 pm : link
is going to hurt his chances at a big payday, but I still wouldn't be surprised regardless. It could be that there's something psychological sticking to Nicks and he just figures that he's better off not taking the field than taking it and continuing to put up shitty numbers or not have the ball thrown to him.

Sucks, but Nicks hasn't been much of a producer thus far this year, and while taking him off the field is a negative I'm not sure how big a negative it is at this point, especially if he's just mentally not there.
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Rob_MTL : 11/24/2013 3:13 pm : link
The offense has sucked because of Baas, Snee and DD.

This includes the practices.

If you guys played football you would understand.

RE: .  
jcn56 : 11/24/2013 3:14 pm : link
In comment 11355145 Rob_MTL said:
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The offense has sucked because of Baas, Snee and DD.

This includes the practices.

If you guys played football you would understand.


There's not a person on this board who's read your posts that has ever believed for a second that you've seen a football up close, let alone played it.
RE: I agree that Nicks shutting it down unless it's a serious injury  
vibe4giants : 11/24/2013 3:16 pm : link
In comment 11355139 jcn56 said:
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is going to hurt his chances at a big payday, but I still wouldn't be surprised regardless. It could be that there's something psychological sticking to Nicks and he just figures that he's better off not taking the field than taking it and continuing to put up shitty numbers or not have the ball thrown to him.

Sucks, but Nicks hasn't been much of a producer thus far this year, and while taking him off the field is a negative I'm not sure how big a negative it is at this point, especially if he's just mentally not there.


Right. If he just doesn't want to be out there, the Giants are better with him not out there. And they're better still with a full understanding of his mental status before considering off-season contract negotiations.
Rob  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/24/2013 3:16 pm : link
No one on this site has ever said the OL wasn't the main problem. Everyone also knows Eli has had a bad year, RBs got hurt/played poorly, TE's mediocre, et.

But Nicks hasn't been Nicks all year.
If Nicks hearing all year long that he sucks, that he's doggin' it,  
Reese's Pieces : 11/24/2013 3:18 pm : link
that he's lost a stop, that he should be traded for anything they can get for him, that he hasn't scored a TD, finds himself open again without the ball being thrown to him, and took off one play because of it, is that quitting on the team?

Is he the first receiver to do this? And we still don't know if he skipped the play for a legit reason: needed a breather or banged up something.
Eric - you make good points  
ZogZerg : 11/24/2013 3:22 pm : link
I think Nick's agent mind fucked him in the off season over getting injured. I think he is a ment mess right now, which is why he is having all sorts of issue.
eric  
Rob_MTL : 11/24/2013 3:23 pm : link
Eric, he was gassed he couldn't go faster. It was on ELI, dont throw it to Nicks in that situation. Contrary to popular belief professional athletes get TIRED also. Myers was WIDE OPEN.

Players come in and out of the field on every play. Why is this time something evil?
mental mess  
ZogZerg : 11/24/2013 3:23 pm : link
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The plays he was allegedly* pouting over went for a TD and completions  
Riggies : 11/24/2013 3:28 pm : link
It's not like he was ignored and nothing good happened.

And I'm sorry, if he's that affected by people saying "mean" things about him (which haven't even been awful in reality, compared to what other players have gotten and get), he's a bit of a bitch. You're not actually defending him by bringing that stuff up; you're making him sound like he's mentally weak.

*I say allegedly because I still don't believe Nicks, based on his track record, would throw that type of selfish hissy fit. Maybe after the game, when his agent gets into his ear, but in-game, in the moment, no.
jcn56  
Rob_MTL : 11/24/2013 4:01 pm : link
I played for 8 years. Coached for 2 years. Assisted during offseason programs for another 10+years. So I've been upclose for over 20 years.

You can belive me or not, I honesly dont care.

The Nicks fans  
PaulN : 11/24/2013 4:29 pm : link
Have been defending this guy as a warrior and all this shit but I simply just do not see it that way at all. The guy is always hurt, there is always a reason he is not at his best, and no matter what the reason is, legit or not, it simply is not very good. He is not a dependable player, it does not matter if he is hurt or not, if he is a warrior, which I do not see at all, or if he is, it is always an issue with him ,and he simply has stunk this year and stunk last year and I do not want him back at all, why would we want him back, he is not dependable.
sounds like it could be a hernia  
jlukes : 11/24/2013 5:05 pm : link
which could lead to the groin/abdominal discussion
RE: Nicks  
M in CT : 11/24/2013 5:54 pm : link
In comment 11354864 Rob_MTL said:
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Nicks always wants to play. It's in his nature, he's ultra competitive.

He's a winner


good call!
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