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Eli, Coughlin, Reese and Organizational Failure

Reb8thVA : 12/8/2013 10:38 pm
Let me first start off by saying that Eli has had a crappy season which has contributed significantly to the nightmare this season has become. But this nightmare season is a systemic failure, and what I mean by that is, not that the read-option offense, or Fewellís defensive schemes are the problem, rather it is an entire organizational failure from top to bottom.

That said, I have a hard time believing that a two time Superbowl MVP, someone who has been perhaps one of the most clutch 4th quarter QBs, someone who is still in their prime and has largely been free of serious injury, has all of a sudden this year forgotten how to play QB. It just doesnít happen. Of course QBs as they age or suffer injury see their skills drop off, but we are not seeing that with Eli. For all the throws that make you want to toss the remote through the TV, he still makes ones that do leave you in awe. Most of his mistakes are mental. You have to be an unabashed Eli hater, not to acknowledge the impact that the OLís inability to consistently keep him upright is having on him and his decision-making. People have long complained about Eliís lack of emotion and his even keeled personality. This is the first season I can recall where I can strongly feel his frustration and that he his having a hard time keeping his emotions under control. Weíve seen a lot of bad throws from him this year, more than we have become accustomed to. However, I still think its mental. Bad throws usually mean one of two things a bad read or bad mechanics, both of which are more likely when you cannot rely on your offensive line. Part of it is also his makeup. Heís a gunslinger, a bit more Brett Favre than Peyton. You might occasionally get an inopportune interception but you have a comfort knowing when the game is on the line he can stick that throw into the smallest window to win the game. But that is the rub. The things he does that make you want to pull your hair out are what also makes him great. Heís poised, supremely confident in himself and a competitor. He takes chances because he always believes that he can win the game. How many of those turnovers in the middle of the season were because of him trying to do to much? a good portion I would bet.

I am not trying to exonerate Eli here. He must be accountable for his poor play. My point is simply that we donít need to find a new QB and it is wrongheaded to think that any other QB would thrive better under similar conditions. Fix the OL next year, have a credible running attack, and much of these issues will disappear.

On the coaching front, I have come to greatly admire Coughlin as a coach and more impressively as a human being. However, I have been frustrated with him and the staff as much as anyone this year. I think Coughlin this year has been stubborn, and to a certain degree he has a right to be. He has a system that has been proven effective, winning two Super Bowls. When the system all of a sudden no longer works and mental errors are everywhere, I donít blame him for thinking its not the system thats the problem, its execution. However, there comes a point when your personnel canít run the system that you have to consider other alternatives. I also think another reason Coughlin was slow to change things up was that this focus was on keeping the team together and not have it lapse into a free for all of infighting. To have drastically changes things up would have sent a vote of no confidence to the team which would have just accelerated the collapse. For those who worry if Coughlin sticks around we are doomed to more of the same, I would just say heís not a stupid man. He knows what isnít working. Heís reinvented himself before, and I wouldnít put it past him again. You know he cares and you know he hates losing.

This brings me to Jerry Reese. Iíe long ago pushed back against the whole ďIn Reese we trustĒ mantra. Not because I though he should be fired, but because he like everyone is not above being accountable for their performance. As a Red Sox fan, I watched Theo Epstein win two World Series but make a number of bad decisions that were directly responsible for the two previous nightmare seasons. Here its not hard to understand why the team is suffering. We lack talent in key areas and that is directly attributed to some poor drafting, especially in the mid rounds. Too many projects picks that have not panned out. That said while Reese is the GM and the buck stops with him, I put more blame on Marc Ross. I think that there has been a drop off in our drafts since Ross took over for Reese. Heís doing the scouting and talent evaluating. If there is one casualty this off season, I would not be surprised to see Ross let go.

Reeseís poor decisions this year are obvious and I am not going to dwell on them. Iíve always tried to judge Reese not on his mistakes but what he does to rectify them. Usually he succeeds in remedying them. The awful year we had CC Brown at Safety, the next year he went out and signed Antrell Rolle. This year he was wrong about our LBs. He goes out and trades for Beason which seems to have made a difference. Its easy to criticize him for all the wrong moves heís made this year, even if our cap situation was most of the problem. Letís just give him the opportunity to fix his own mess. Unlike letting a player go a year too early instead of a year to late, I think Iíd rather err on the side of prudent caution here.

Clearly, there needs to be changes next year. The team cannot and will not go into the season next year status quo. I just think we need to avoid throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Instead of tossing the baby maybe we can just get rid of Fewell and Gillbride.
Eli has no OL  
oipolloi : 12/8/2013 10:41 pm : link
Nepotism with Snee, short-sighted restructuring of Baas, and the ridiculous drafting of Nassib instead of a C/G are responsible for that. Also letting McCants go so we could carry the injured Snee and Baas.

No QB would be successful with this OL. Whatever Eli does this season is meaningless because he has zero time to throw.

you lost me at "as a red sox fan"  
Jints in Carolina : 12/8/2013 10:44 pm : link
LOL.....seriously though, good post.
did Beason even play today?  
SHO'NUFF : 12/8/2013 10:47 pm : link
Reese can bring in whoever...they still ain't getting any playing time.
Trying to avoid work, I actually read the whole thing.  
CT Charlie : 12/8/2013 10:50 pm : link
I agree with most of it, except that I think Quinn should be fired before Gilbride or Fewell. Special teams have been awful. I also fault QB and WR coaches more than than KG, though he needs to end the hot-read options or whatever they're called. They burn us all too often.
At what point does  
Brian T : 12/8/2013 10:56 pm : link
The 16-20 million dollar a year player become accountable?

Why is it that SO many of his throws hit a receiver, only to go straight in the air to a nearby defender?

Why does the play clock run to zero on numerous occasions?

How come most turnovers aren't faulted? (Or why is it somebody else's fault for a turnover?)

I love this QB with every fiber of my New York Giants Soul; but why are excuses being made for a guy who is largely considered 'Elite'?

I'm not sure if this lies on the GM or The head Coach or the ball boys or Joe Skiba

This has been the Eli Story since day one....when is it going to end?
Good post  
bignygfan : 12/8/2013 10:57 pm : link
We failed and heads need to roll. The coaching is inept.

I would like to see Nick Saban here since his screwup on that field goal means that the Alabama fans want him out.

I myself am thinking of joining the Cleveland Browns fan base of we don't fire our coach.
It's been beyond established at this point that the sideline  
Riggies : 12/8/2013 10:59 pm : link
frequently doesn't get the calls into Eli in a timely fashion and that's the main source of the play clock issue, as Eli can't just abort or not do what he has to do to set up the play at the line.

It's not, for the most part, a player issue. It's a coaching one. And that's not excuse-making.
RE: Good post  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 12/8/2013 11:01 pm : link
In comment 11383799 bignygfan said:
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We failed and heads need to roll. The coaching is inept.

I would like to see Nick Saban here since his screwup on that field goal means that the Alabama fans want him out.

I myself am thinking of joining the Cleveland Browns fan base of we don't fire our coach.


Nick Saban? Dude, you are killing it tonight!
One of most confusing and worrisome  
NewBlue : 12/8/2013 11:06 pm : link
moves by this staff is the screwing around with Kiwanuka. They paid him handsomely and I seriously can't remember a single impact play he has made all year. Is he a LB? Is he a DE? They don't know what he is.
Eli has sucked  
PaulN : 12/8/2013 11:23 pm : link
And it is total crap to say no QB would succeed with this OLine, total bullshit. He is not a great QB, in fact, he has become a mediocre QB at this point. Enough of defending this guy. That said, it is not all his fault by a long shot. We have lousy receivers, except for Cruz and including Nicks, and Cruz is no fucking great shakes either, lousy running backs except for Brown, lousy OLine except for Pugh, and a mediocre QB. We also have a mediocre defense at best.
The 4th down and 5 play indicates everything that is wrong with this  
loafin : 12/8/2013 11:38 pm : link
coaching staff. You need five yards. And you are not playing against Fewell's defense which means you will probably get a blitz. What play is run? Cruz is doubled while going deep.
The other receiver goes deep and Meyers runs a deep route as well. What a great way to protect your QB!!

Idiotic, STUBBORN playcalling is what kills this team..
Brian T....  
jrthomps2006 : 12/8/2013 11:47 pm : link
I think Eli gets a lot of slack cut for him because (and I'm definitely in this camp) I never question his status as our starting QB. Even with INTs, turnovers, poor decisions - he has built up a lot of credibility and realistically, there's not a scenario I can envision in my mind that Eli isn't lining up under center for the next 3-4 years.

I always laugh at the suggestions on BBI to trade him because in today's NFL it would be foolish to walk away prematurely from a franchise quarterback that has proven track record.

Would we really trade him to draft someone like Marcus Mariota? Just a ridiculous thought in my mind.

Since I see Eli as a fixture, I'm more open to changes on the coaching staff. It feels a little too reactionary to fire Coughlin but Gilbride, Fewell and Quinn (definitely) should be seriously evaluated.

BTW, Reb8thVA I liked your post
This regime  
silverfox : 12/9/2013 6:07 am : link
Is out of answers and its obvious at this point.
The NFL is a quarterback league  
JoefromPa : 12/9/2013 8:17 am : link
and Eli is part of the answer to fixing this team
A fun fact  
dep026 : 12/9/2013 8:20 am : link
at the end of the 3rd quarter Eli was 14-20 (70%) with and INT (off the body of the intended WR.)

By the time he threw that shitty INT and the reversal of the other INT, we were down 20 points. I dont mind saying Eli has had a shitty year, but lets place the majority of the blame where he earns it (1st dallas game, 1st Philly game, Bears game. This is not one of those games.

SD scored on 7 of their 9 drives. and One of those faield drives, Rivers just lost the ball. The defense was the main culprit yesterday.
Give Reece What?  
Percy : 12/9/2013 1:51 pm : link
Another chance? You've got to be kidding. Just change the coaches under old man TC? And what then? Put him on a ventilator? Try electroshock to get a new idea in his head? Keep Eli around for the rebuilding at his exalted pay and put him out to pasture when? Only after the team has been reassembled three or four years down the road? More is needed -- deeper, more complete change -- as you must realize after your accurate analysis of what's not gone right for the Giants over the last several years.
People need to chill the fuck out.  
BeerFridge : 12/9/2013 2:04 pm : link
This team is 2 years from winning the Super Bowl.

This is what happens when a big portion of your team all craps out mostly due to age at the same time.
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