in this guy this season?
Two years ago, I thought Nicks was an absolute beast and would be the best receiver in Giants' history. I would have, at that time, taken Nicks, hands down, over any wide receiver in the NFL. He was that good.
Now, to hear him yesterday refute what TC had to say after the game, to see him literally not compete at all for several balls...a common theme this year for him...I cannot believe I am watching the same guy. And he is only 25.
I know the injury thing but it is hard to watch a guy, who competed so hard previously, just go through the motions and let's be honest...Nicks is just going through the motions right now. To me, his play has been so poor I would consider benching him.
I never thought he was a WR diva but how can you think anything else after seeing him not even try to knock the ball down on those interceptions yesterday by Sherman.
I am not sure what has happened to him mentally but I would have to think he has destroyed his reputation in the Giants' family. Maybe he will regain what he once was with another team but, personally, he has wiped out in one season all the good he had done in the previous 4.
I know some team will give him big money but still you have to really wonder if this is the right way to earn a new contract? I guess I am just too old school but his play this year has bordered on disgusting.
Deihl stated it halfway through the season. He wouldn't have said that if there wasn't some fire behind that smoke
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Even if nobody named names or pointed fingers at exactly which Giants were lacking in the effort department, anybody with eyes had to question the effort wideout Hakeem Nicks gave Sunday. Or more to the point, didn’t give.
Eli Manning targeted the struggling receiver five times in the 23-0 loss to Seattle. One of those ended up as a catch, with the other four ending up as interceptions. And from the outside, it didn’t appear as if Nicks gave his utmost in fighting for the ball.
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2 were underthrown and 1 was behind him. So, yes, it's Nicks' fault.
I don't know what happened to him this year. Injuries played a role but there was just something off about him this year from the start. Mentally, he just didn't seem to be 100% and his effort has looked mediocre all year.
I wish him good luck in the future, but I think and honestly hope it will be for another team.
Instead of questioning will be here next year, start questioning why in the heck he’d want to be here next year. This team is a mess, starting from top to bottom. Eli is on the decline in a major way and unless he becomes friends with some HGH, his best days are behind him. Nicks will get to pick a good/great situation next year with possible cheaper state taxes, better winters, less media, a better QB….the list goes on. Point is…NICKS WON!
2 were underthrown and 1 was behind him. So, yes, it's Nicks' fault.
seattle's receivers made plays on poorly thrown balls all day yesterday, or at the very least broke them up.
I am disappointed in him.
He's been 'aw shucks'-ing(in a very negative way) since that first injury in '12.
I wish him well, even if it's in Carolina, but just want to add:
Thanks Hakeem. He doesnt deserve a goodbye thread.
And taterbug, Manningham left for one reason :MONEY. SF was willing to pay more.
the disgust over nicks should be about his inability to make big plays to put points on the board... about his drops early in the season, about his conduct in the offseason losing valuable reps, and about his moping at times.
we should NOT have threads all day about him because your QB made AWFUL TERRIBLE throws yesterday. he jumped on the 3rd one, the throw was just THAT bad and THAT late. the first one was a BAD throw that the biggest most physical DB was in great position to get. adn the one over the middle, when viewed from the angle behind the LOS, was such a bad throw he has no shot at it.
maybe if he frowned instead of smiled when the opponent was likely reminding them how much they suck towards the end of the game, we would think his effort was more.
the disgust over nicks should be about his inability to make big plays to put points on the board... about his drops early in the season, about his conduct in the offseason losing valuable reps, and about his moping at times.
we should NOT have threads all day about him because your QB made AWFUL TERRIBLE throws yesterday. he jumped on the 3rd one, the throw was just THAT bad and THAT late. the first one was a BAD throw that the biggest most physical DB was in great position to get. adn the one over the middle, when viewed from the angle behind the LOS, was such a bad throw he has no shot at it.
maybe if he frowned instead of smiled when the opponent was likely reminding them how much they suck towards the end of the game, we would think his effort was more.
1) Nicks is a UFA after the season
2) I don't think anyone is blaming Nicks for Eli's poor performance, but Nicks for whatever reason just seems to have lost his explosiveness and strength. He seems weak on the ball,and doesnt have that next gear anymore. I wonder if there really is an injury because he doesn't look even remotely like the 2011 Nicks.
But he's not close to that anymore. He's not that guy.
I wonder whether Victor Cruz's success bugs Nicks. Cruz has turned out to be the go-to guy, the reliable fan favorite. Nicks was the #1 pick, he was supposed to be the Man. Cruz is an UDFA.
Regarding the INTs, I can't argue they're Nicks's fault, BUT: Every WR in the league has to pick up his QB now and then. Not every ball will be perfect. If it's not perfect, you have to fight for it. You have to compete. It looks like Nicks has stopped competing. If the ball's right there, he'll catch it -- unless the DB outjumps him or outfights him. And if the ball's not right there, well, the ball wasn't right there.
GImme Dez Bryant any day.
GImme Dez Bryant any day.
I would, but he's left the stadium.
Nicks was one on one...perfect passes? No....but did it look like he made the effort to make the catch, especially on the slant?
If he's just going through motions so as not to hurt himself hoping some dumb team will pay him big bucks next year - I think he's cost himself millions ... I know if I were a GM, I'd be very leery ... I would never believe it but I think now there's a lot of Jamarcus Russell in him ...
The only thing I can think of is that he doesn't care so much about getting the most money possible, just that he'll get a contract with enough guaranteed money to ensure that he never has to work a day in his life when he retires. So he doesn't care about his production this year, only that he is still able to be a football player.
Other than that, it doesn't make any sense for him to loaf and so maybe he really does have a crippling injury or that he just lost his speed and explosiveness.
"Fighting for the ball" is an attempt to save Eli from poor throws. Nicks would have had to go through the DB to catch the throw up the sideline. It was thrown to the inside when Nicks had the outside.
On the int over the middle, the ball was thrown behind Nicks. How much was he supposed to be able to fight when his momentum is away from the poorly thrown ball.
I think Nicks has some physical limitations and he allowed his contract situation to eat at him. This is supposed to be his contract year and he is forced into a different role and having to try and catch passes from the scattergun. He's not helping himself or the team this season.
Has his lack of production done more harm than say another serious leg injury to his value on the open market? Only time will tell but he let his team and the fans down this year.
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amazing... cant believe he showed no effort on those... what a joke people here are.
the argument is whether he is worth signing/paying... based on weak performance this season. but good lord. the amount of stupid on here.
amazing... cant believe he showed no effort on those... what a joke people here are.
the argument is whether he is worth signing/paying... based on weak performance this season. but good lord. the amount of stupid on here.
There is a group think here that loves to find scapegoats.
Again, if Nicks isnt wide open or it lands in his lap, he cant catch it. You're right - it is Eli's fault. he should never throw the lazy, overrated bum the ball anymore. He cant get open, he cant fight for the ball, and he gets outmuscled. Nicks should be RGIII for the rest of the year.
Q: Was there a throw that you would like to have back in one of your interceptions?
A: Probably the little short crossing route to Hakeem was the one that was behind him. That was probably the one that I thought was the poorest throw of the day.
Watch the damn play. I posted it.
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I cant wait to hear the commentary on the video you posted... the double pump on the last one after he was open for a back cone throw. hitting sherman in stride on the first one... the crossing route is low,slow, and more to the defender given how soft its thrown because its another back foot high risk low reward throw.
amazing... cant believe he showed no effort on those... what a joke people here are.
the argument is whether he is worth signing/paying... based on weak performance this season. but good lord. the amount of stupid on here.
There is a group think here that loves to find scapegoats.
Poor throws, poor effort and good defensive plays! the play to end the half was a hail mary and the only one I will excuse! I see all 3 factors involved in each int.
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where it looks like Nicks dogged it on the route. Seems about right.
Watch the damn play. I posted it.
If nicks ran full speed (forget running a lazy route like Millen suggests) he is slow as molasses.
Again I blame eli. Should never even look at his way. Remember that big play nicks made this year? I sure as hell don't. Hes remembered for the following things this year.
1. Smiling on sidelines in blowouts.
2. Not being able to throw himself the ball when covered.
3. Celebrating a hail Mary TD - 7 yards short of the goaline.
4. Taking himself out of a game when insode the red zone.
5. Quitting on routes... especially the philly game.
But since early on in the season, there have been a number of plays where he just looks like he is half-assing it.
I don't get it. People like Paul Dottino have hinted at an injury but an injury wouldn't cause him to just quit like he did against the Eagles.
Hell, try preseason. He showed in preseason, what kind of year he was going to have.
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Every throw was off. 5 ints and getting his WR crushed. The guy just had a downright awful day.
Regarding Nicks, it is more the collective lack of production and his lazy approach this season that really showed something be off to ranging to "I don't care, I am counting the days" attitude. As Eric said, the writing was on the wall for this in the pre-season.